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Title: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on December 31, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
I just DL'd a bunch of 'em.... I'm a gonna be a busy boy... LOL Believe it or not, I picked up several of the guys. I HAD to grab Cushing... I'll see if I can put a decent Tarkin together.

 :new_year_3:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on December 31, 2017, 11:14:11 PM
Just used the facegen file from that site.

Time to watch the ball drop.   :ny4:

All she needs is red hair and a bow....  :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on December 31, 2017, 11:52:15 PM
All she needs is red hair and a bow....  :thumb_up:

Well  ... since eveyone else has gone to bed, I can't get one of the color sighted people here to tell me if this is red, but she does have a bow:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 01, 2018, 12:12:06 AM
Looks more brown with just a hint of coppery-red, but dang, she still looks hot!

Well, it's now 2018, and it sounded like one of Kim's nukes just went off outside... It's like 1 degree here... Those folks are nuts.  :explode: I'm celebrating inside!

 :new_year_3:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 03:36:47 AM
The truck said that it was 14° when we got back in.  I think you're smart to wait.  My son has to work tomorrow and I have to return to work the next day, so this was it.

The movie had the best effects yet, at least in my judgment.  I liked the original for the gritty feel.  This is leagues ahead of that.  I'll withhold evaluating the plot until it's more settled in my old head.  It's no longer 1977 and the world is quite a different place.  (I know, profound, right?)  Some characters seemed more complex and some substantially thinner.  I could not judge if that was the acting, the editing or the script without more thought.

Know what you mean, they are trying desperately to keep their films at or under 2 hours in length now.  Why, I don't know.  Avatar is 4 hours and still the top grossing film of all time.   To do that they are cramming SO MUCH into so little time it gets bewildering!   Novarian is a bit that way, though you can follow the plot as you go, it has over 2,700 special effects.  Means lots of them share the same screen time space!   It is also saying that it is probable every second of the two hours has special digital effects in it.  Astounding to think about.   I feel they should keep everything in these movies, just stretch it out a little bit so our minds can digest it a little easier!  LOL!  I can't wait to see Last Jedi, will buy it unseen!   Same with Jumangi 2 !!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR Sir Knight and Family!    :Hi5: :crazysmile: :happydance: :yippee: :smile: :thumb_up: :0704:

I just got up about 2:20 am.  I think the fireworks (totally illegal up here on the caprock, severe dry land fire hazard!) and resulting sirens started the long slow process of waking this tired old goofus up.  Yup.  Its so cold (7°F) and I was so cozy!  But I'm UP.  And it is now 3:32 am, expecting to see about 5°F with a high around noon at 20°F.   This is gonna be a cold week man.   If I feel I've had too much coffee I will be sipping hot water!  LOL! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 04:59:42 AM
Are we talking about Tauriel, a completely film added character?  Played by a brunette actress?

erm the term Bailey is less known, and played by the same person in a very different Steely Reality movie!
I like her too!   I have from the first time I saw her on one of those real dumb "reality" TV shows.  WHY are we whispering anyway?
That lady has Got a WALK man!  Whew!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 05:05:56 AM
Are we talking about Tauriel, a completely film added character?  Played by a brunette actress?

What do you mean "completely film added character" ?  I get the brunette  actress bit, totally  :haremdance:


I note that nobody wants to mention a working Actor/Actress' name.  Evangeline Lilly or Mary Crosby just two such examples.

Yesss I KNOW whom you are talking about.   She has played a couple of really wonderful characters (only SUPPORTING roles dammit!) and I do enjoy seeing her work.   She also appeared on a couple of nite time talk shows like that Craig Ferguson's show. That was fun.   It was right after she gave birth to her son.  Wow what a WALK!  And the bunns to hold those legs ON buddy! HA!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 05:09:47 AM
That be the one!  :hubbahubba: Love watching her run and jump and jiggle...oops, I need to stop that!

WHAT for !?!!!!??  THAT shows you are actually HUMAN (oops!)!!!!!    And they DID include those scenes just to pique our interests, now didn't they?   Like Kari Byron's very first episode!  The Silver BUM!  Woooooooo!   Gorgeous thang!  :crazysmile: :hubbahubba: :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 05:14:55 AM
Yep - that's the one... Completely not in the books, but I worship at Peter Jackson's altar for finding her and putting her in there. Woof, woof!

Ahhhhh OK I see now!   Took me a while, but I'm with y'all now.   I am with you in gratitude to Jackson for putting her in the films, even if he had to create the character just for her!   I think he is as fascinated with her as we are Rod, and he just happens to have that kind of ability and used it to PUT her in his films!  Yaaaay! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 05:20:58 AM
LOL....Got two here.....

I gave up watching the New Years Specials they have on.   I've been watching the "11 Days of Mythbusters" Marathon


Me too!   From the beginning.  I have NO idea how many or which ones I have slept through and missed doing errands.
But I DO remember learning that "Perfect Silver Butt" is actually Kari Byron on her very first episode appearance.   That was her job, to pose for a butt scan.  Ha!  It was for the Myth of the woman getting vacuum stuck on an airliner toiled seat till it landed.  I think that whole episode was made for FUN.  Happy New Year TL!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 05:25:20 AM
Actually, I don't..... I've got characters that look like Galadriel (Cate Blanchett), Daenerys (Emilia Clarke), Padme Amidala (Natalie Portman), and of course 3 or 4 Angelina look-alikes... (all from RR marketplace - I didn't morph them myself..LOL). I'll see if I can snatch a few photos of Evangeline Lilly and see what I can do in Blacksmith and FaceGen. She's gonna have to stand in line, though. I still need to do - uh I mean morph - Daisy Ridley (Rey) and Felicity Jones (Jyn Erso). My list grows long....  :OMFG:

If you follow my T.N.A. story, one of the villains - Edmund Snowzem - was morphed by me, using Edward Snowden as the model.  :tearlaugh: I've really gotta get back into doing more of that - it's fun!

Hey I LOVE Felicity Jones!   Jhen Urso was a good character too.   I liked the movie where she was wearing the black babydoll dress.  And very skimpy whites under!  You'd see a bright flash every step, and she has great legs too!
There ARE some E.L. lookalikes still around.  I am sure one of the best is still in RMP!  I have it in here somewhere.  grrr!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 05:29:02 AM
It is 5:30 am on New Years Day.  I slept from about 5pm to 2am as usual, messing up any celebrating. I see also I have missed out on a conversation I would love to have caught LIVE!  HA!  Guess that means I am the only live one up and at em on New Year DAY.  Oh well, I could do worse I s'pose!  LOL!

Happy New Year to you ALL folks!   :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 01, 2018, 05:43:51 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR Sir Knight and Family!    :Hi5: :crazysmile: :happydance: :yippee: :smile: :thumb_up: :0704:

...

Its so cold (7°F) and I was so cozy!  But I'm UP.  And it is now 3:32 am, expecting to see about 5°F with a high around noon at 20°F.   This is gonna be a cold week man.   If I feel I've had too much coffee I will be sipping hot water!  LOL! 

And a very happy new year to you, too, McG.  I hope that you're healthy and happy this year!

Indicator at the top of my screen says 4.7 °F.  Exterior thermometer said 4.0 °F while I was making  :java: .

It is 5:30 am on New Years Day.  I slept from about 5pm to 2am as usual, messing up any celebrating. I see also I have missed out on a conversation I would love to have caught LIVE!  HA!  Guess that means I am the only live one up and at em on New Year DAY.  Oh well, I could do worse I s'pose!  LOL!

Happy New Year to you ALL folks!   :yippee:

I don't know about "live", but I'm here.   :Hi5:   I suspect the conversation will resume in a bit.

 :ny4:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: AmirA on January 01, 2018, 07:03:01 AM
 :new_year_3: From South Africa  :ny4:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:07:43 AM
Good MORNING Sir Knight!  It is a whopping sweltering (to Yeti maybe!) 2°F and ought to hover there a bit, then begin warming with daylight.  But I would not count on it.   I've just finished my first hot tottie for the year, and it actually helped me feel a bit warmer.  Already had breakfast, meds, said hi to the cats, made my bed since I won't be getting back in it for a while yet.  And have decided I don't need to get all bundled up and go anywhere today. HA!   
Surely you won't have to get out and work today?  Hope not!   The wind whisked any snow we had off to the South somewhere.  Hope they enjoy it.

Now, pertaining to the discussion a bit ago, there are free morphs of the individual asked to play a certain Woodland Elf (while she was pregnant no less!) floating around.  And they look pretty good likenesses too.  I also have one bookmarked and one bought.

Here's a link to the most realistic headmorph I've seen yet.   Arriah81's.
http://www.sharecg.com/v/25277/browse/11/Poser/Catherine-morph-POSER

that's it.  No texture, no body, no clothes.  I think its a good one. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 01, 2018, 07:07:46 AM
Happy New Year to you, too, Jungle Girl.  I hope that you have a safe and happy one.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:11:05 AM
A little judicious "dial sculpting" in V4 with Morphs ++ in the body, and you have a winner.  RodS will enjoy this one, for sure.  How can ya beat FREE?  Heh!  There is also one for DS.  I never got that one as I don't use DS.  But, its there!

The one on the right is ELF07C, a little concoction of my own.  I see I need to scale her down kinda radically, she's too tall!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 01, 2018, 07:11:36 AM
Following the topicof 2017 (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?topic=16114.0), it's time to start the new year. So once again  :ny4:

Finally the night was perfect because rain came just before some fireworks were lighted in our part of district. Lucky we were, and we are again because storm is back. And big rain.

Well, you talked me into it, I will start to watch the LOTR series although I think we will be starting with the Hobbit trilogy first and work our way up from there ... maybe ... or I might hop, skip and twirl a bit, throughout the entire collection.

Do have me a copy of the entire story in print in the book case behind me at the computer desk.

 :iminnocent:

Damn library ...  2590 :luvbooks: is the final count for 2017
I haven't trilogy of Hobbit. Maybe one day.  But for trailers I saw, I feel that better than book. I don't like very much the book, it's the one I like the less concerning Middle Earth.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:15:27 AM
EEEEEEK!  All my recent replies just got trashed!  GAAAAHHH!!!    :yeow:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:17:15 AM
I have an original paperback entitled "The Hobbit".   Bought it new before I had kids!   I dont even let them know I have it!    :nopanic;
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 01, 2018, 07:20:35 AM
No trashed, I locked the other topic like this of 2015 was done (this of 2016 is missing :panic: ) . I was necessary for I was able to select messages to add by here.
Otherwise, we'll have a never ending 2017 talk :psycho:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 01, 2018, 07:22:44 AM
Now it's time for me to look the COTM gallery  :heeheehee:
No many choice between pictures (12 last time I looked yesterday), so I hope the COTM of January by Ray will have more success.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:25:42 AM
I guess a winner theme was selected for January, I bet it is Pinups in the Snow too!  LOL!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:28:13 AM
A little note of interest as concerns the disappearing lookalikes from everywhere.  The media cops have NO RIGHT to force, order, confiscate ANY likeness known that is used for NON COMMERCIAL COSPLAY use.   No matter what their leagle beagles say. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 01, 2018, 07:30:12 AM
Happy New Year


 :ny4: :newyears2: :new_year_3:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:32:59 AM
Now it's time for me to look the COTM gallery  :heeheehee:
No many choice between pictures (12 last time I looked yesterday), so I hope the COTM of January by Ray will have more success.

TOugh time to be getting much activity for these things, Aelin.  Dont worry, more will come.  Folks haven't woken up and sobered up yet.   :java: :java: :java: with RUM this morning, my NY celebration!  he he!    :smile: :smile: :smile: :yippee: :winks:


Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere but the kitchen, bathroom and HEATER!   Ha!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 07:35:46 AM
Terrific XinXin M-C!   Thanks and a Happy New Year to you!

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 01, 2018, 07:37:03 AM
I guess a winner theme was selected for January, I bet it is Pinups in the Snow too!  LOL!
Challenge Of The Month (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?board=613.0) isn't the Contest (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?board=409.0). It's totally different. One month Sidherose is the judge, the month after it's me. And we choose ourselves the theme for COTM :pervy:

Concerning Contest theme, yes pinups :thud: :thud: :thud:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 01, 2018, 07:40:40 AM
Now it's time for me to look the COTM gallery  :heeheehee:
No many choice between pictures (12 last time I looked yesterday), so I hope the COTM of January by Ray will have more success.

Sorry that I didn't produce more.  I had the ideas for three, but only the time for one.   :sad:   I'll do better in February!   :Hi5:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 01, 2018, 07:42:17 AM
Happy New Year


 :ny4: :newyears2: :new_year_3:

And one to you, M-Callahan.  That's a very nice picture!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 01, 2018, 07:49:14 AM
Sorry that I didn't produce more.  I had the ideas for three, but only the time for one.   :sad:   I'll do better in February!   :Hi5:
I hope to see you in the January challenge with others :yes:
I know the season was difficult to produce works.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 01, 2018, 07:52:08 AM
I hope to see you in the January challenge with others :yes:
I know the season was difficult to produce works.

Oh, I will.  But it's sidherose's turn to pick and choose, right?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 01, 2018, 07:56:05 AM
Yes it's her turn. She has already prepared the stuff, I know that. But I keep the secret :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 01, 2018, 07:58:22 AM
Still dark out here in the west wing,  it is presently 31 degrees F but will fall to about 28 degrees F when the sun rises this morning.  Glad I live here and I don't miss the snow.  But if I do there are the mountains out here and they are minutes away from here. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 08:21:13 AM
Challenge Of The Month (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?board=613.0) isn't the Contest (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?board=409.0). It's totally different. One month Sidherose is the judge, the month after it's me. And we choose ourselves the theme for COTM :pervy:

Concerning Contest theme, yes pinups :thud: :thud: :thud:

Hahahaha!  ALL those wonderful suggestions and the masses chose pinups!  Who would have guessed?!   :iminnocent: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 08:25:35 AM
AND for those interested (and who will miss seeing it in last years thread  :ny-fathertime: ) here is a link to their ShareCG page:  http://www.sharecg.com/pf/full_uploads.php?pf_user_name=ariah81

Catherine for both Poser and DS are in there.   :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Neimrok on January 01, 2018, 08:55:57 AM
I guess a winner theme was selected for January, I bet it is Pinups in the Snow too!  LOL!
Killer Frost in bikini ? :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 01, 2018, 09:10:42 AM
Happy New Years to all......

Glad to see the 2018 Coffee Shoppe is up and running.   

Tis a balmy -14 degrees here this morning......   So had to make the coffee EXTRA hot today lol. 

Got a ton of stuff to get done in here today so gotta get at it.  With :java: in hand.....

And Mc-G   .... I missed a bunch also but hardly missed any when they were on weekly so didn't miss much I'm sure
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Neimrok on January 01, 2018, 09:37:11 AM
Happy New Year


 :ny4: :newyears2: :new_year_3:
Nice pin-up to start the year, M-Callahan ! :pervy: :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: earwenM on January 01, 2018, 10:12:49 AM
 :newyears2: :lite2:

Hello guys!
I offer you all my wishes for 2018, happiness, good health and success in your projects.
Happy New Year everyone!

 :ny-clock:    :grpwave:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 01, 2018, 11:22:39 AM
Hi, earwenM!  May your New Year be filled with that which you desire.   :ny4:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 01, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
Cool site, Sir Knight!


I probably won't be around much the next few days. Hopefully, my doctor will send me some anti-biotics...for it seems I've still got that awful flu.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 01, 2018, 11:52:32 AM
You go and relax my friend...and get well soon.  I'll change the sidebars so no worry there...and the front page also....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 11:56:10 AM
that's awful Ray!   I sure hope you kick that stuff out pronto.  I think my 'flu' finally left a few weeks ago.  But I got to be careful not to pick it up from out and about again.  I added a 500mg one a day,  "Nature Made" Vitamin C only supplement to my box of meds.   After a month I've seen that I bruise less often, and they clear up quicker when I do get them.   The nurses at the VA suggested this as C helps the body build collagen, which is used to build/strengthen veins.  Mine have been blowing out, flattening and rolling away giving the lab techs fits.  They have been taking the vials from my hands.  Way easier to corral the veins there! 
I feel bad when folks I know get sick.  Bothers me.  Get well soon you!
McG.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 01, 2018, 11:57:30 AM
Hi earwenM !!!  Happy 2018!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 01, 2018, 12:27:17 PM
Hi EarwenM and  :new_year_3: to you!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 01, 2018, 12:28:24 PM
You go and relax my friend...and get well soon.  I'll change the sidebars so no worry there...and the front page also....

Thanks, TL! I appreciate it.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 01, 2018, 12:33:48 PM
that's awful Ray!   I sure hope you kick that stuff out pronto.  I think my 'flu' finally left a few weeks ago.  But I got to be careful not to pick it up from out and about again.  I added a 500mg one a day,  "Nature Made" Vitamin C only supplement to my box of meds.   After a month I've seen that I bruise less often, and they clear up quicker when I do get them.   The nurses at the VA suggested this as C helps the body build collagen, which is used to build/strengthen veins.  Mine have been blowing out, flattening and rolling away giving the lab techs fits.  They have been taking the vials from my hands.  Way easier to corral the veins there! 
I feel bad when folks I know get sick.  Bothers me.  Get well soon you!
McG.

I had a sneaking hunch I didn't get over it on my own. I wish she would have given me anti-biotics THEN when I first went. Then I would be over it. I haven't had any in 12 years, so I don't think I'm in any danger of them not working. I do take Vitamin C, D and B12, but been kind of lax there. I took them this morning. Thanks, McG.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 01, 2018, 01:33:29 PM
First afternoon of a new year! Happy new year to all! I hope everyone celebrated safe. We stayed home cause our daughter is sick and we didn't want to leave her alone..we were supposed to go to my sister in law... but I rather be home anyway...was listening to music, we cooked and i was drinking my coquito.  :ny-clock:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 01, 2018, 01:41:37 PM
Heating the curry up from last night just proves some things taste better the next day.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 01, 2018, 02:15:08 PM
How lovely, currently 49° with a light drizzling rain plus wind

Could be worse I am sure
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 01, 2018, 03:36:17 PM
I think we finally got above 0 ....Wanna trade "J"  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 01, 2018, 03:58:26 PM
Here it says 12 F degrees feeling like 3, earlier it was feeling like zero :brrr:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 01, 2018, 04:10:26 PM
I think we finally got above 0 ....Wanna trade "J"  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:

Still taking a rain check on that trade
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 01, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
To all, I wish you an excellent end of day!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 01, 2018, 06:13:29 PM
Have a good rest, Aelin.  One more time:  :ny4:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 01, 2018, 07:20:02 PM
Have a great night Aelin.   I think I've got the Sidebars and Front page all done finally.   I'm thinking it's time to wipe the pages clean and start anew  :thud:

Hope all had a wonderful New Years Eve.  Quiet here.  Bowl games today so enjoyed a couple of them while getting things straight....and then back to Mythbusters LOLOL.

I'll be heading out shortly...but got to catch up on posts....so if I don't make it back....Have a great night everyone....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 01, 2018, 07:30:26 PM
have a great night Aelin
 :shiv:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 01, 2018, 07:33:59 PM
Night all! Sweet dreams and stay warm. :angelstaff:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 01, 2018, 07:40:45 PM
Have a great night Ray....Hope you get to feeling better.  Rest is best says my Doctors who's a pest....

Damn...poetry in motion....whoooohooo

I think my brain is starting to freeze.....  :shiv:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 01, 2018, 07:42:10 PM
:duh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 03:37:45 AM
G'mornin and G'nite again!  LOL!
 :shiv: :ny-fathertime:

Yeh all that shiverin and sweatin stuff ain't so great for old folks!  Brrrrr!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 02, 2018, 05:11:19 AM
Or for us youngsters, we have a balmy (yep, sarcasm) 38° currently at 6:10 Eastern with a projected high of 55°
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 02, 2018, 07:17:00 AM
Good Morning Everyone,


It is Cloudy and presently 35 degrees F should be about 26 degrees F when the sun comes up looking for a high of 65 degrees F today.  Time 5:13 am Pacific.




Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 02, 2018, 07:24:38 AM
Working outside for over forty years many people don't understand why when the sun comes up it get cold.  During the night water vapor condenses and collects on the ground as dew.  When the sun rises in the morning it starts heating the ground that has been cool all night, as it heat the ground the moisture evaporates and rises up so it cools the air for a short time about the first hour or more during the sun rise depending on how moist the air is how cold it gets.  This is more noticeable during the fall, winter and early spring.  You can look at the phenomena as nature swamp cooler.
 :sunny: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 02, 2018, 07:49:57 AM
Good morning guys!
It's a cloudy and a bit rainy day, but no storm until tomorrow according forecast weather. Temperatures are 46°F.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 02, 2018, 08:27:11 AM
A balmy -26 here. -15 F more or less. Time to rejoin the real world. Holidays are over for most. Old retired folk like me are on a permanent holiday but I still have to grocery shop and return a small fortune in empties when it warms up a bit.

Empties... money in the bank for poor people like me. You pay a deposit on alcoholic beverage containers when purchasing beer, wine, ect. After New Years and Christmas parties there are always a few dollars in empties around.   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 10:32:56 AM
Good Morning to all.....  And yes...we are  :shiv: like many others.    This is why I like SNOW.  When it snows...the temps are not normally this cold....  When I woke up it was -21....right now we are all the way up to -11....High today....4°

Anyone have problems with Firefox of late?  Got one of our clan trying to get a reply up but FF seems to have taken all the reply items away....from what I gather. Told them to clear the cache and see what happens next.

Anyway.....Time to finish up checking the my Mail....and take a tour in here.....

PS...Coffee is on and PLENTY OF IT  :java: :java: :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 02, 2018, 10:34:32 AM
good morning...almost noon here in East Coast NY... Temperature right now it says 18°F, feeling like 5°....it is freaking cold!! My sister that lives in Jacksonville Florida, sent me a picture, all bundled up in her car. She says it was 31° this morning with a feel of 27°.....baby it's cold outside!!
 :brrr:
Ray, hope you feel somewhat better!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 10:37:51 AM
They are talking about Blizzard like conditions for the East Coast on Thursday.....  Wicked winds and snow....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 02, 2018, 10:47:14 AM
Good Morning to all.....  And yes...we are  :shiv: like many others.    This is why I like SNOW.  When it snows...the temps are not normally this cold....  When I woke up it was -21....right now we are all the way up to -11....High today....4°

Anyone have problems with Firefox of late?  Got one of our clan trying to get a reply up but FF seems to have taken all the reply items away....from what I gather. Told them to clear the cache and see what happens next.

Anyway.....Time to finish up checking the my Mail....and take a tour in here.....

PS...Coffee is on and PLENTY OF IT  :java: :java: :java:

Like FF has decided to do something similar to Chrome, I haven't updated to the last version. So I have no issue for the moment.

Finally another storm could start here at midnight. But not blizzard fortunately.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 10:53:55 AM
Not sure if he did or not....still haven't heard from him...I'll wait a bit longer and then give him a call to see what is what.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 12:51:40 PM
LOL..>Everyone must be worn out from New Years or Christmas.  Oh well....

I'm heading out for a bit anyway....have a great day.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 01:11:30 PM
Good Morning this afternoon/evening!  It was 1°F when I finally got ready for sleeping at 6:00am.  It didn't get light out till 7:30, and was so cold on the outside of my blankets I just stayed cocooned, didn't check the thermometer.  I just saw light through the windows.   I woke about 12:30, took care of me, cats and made coffee and sausage sammiches.  Yep, they are quick and easy!  Faster than fixing coffee, but if ya think I'm going coffee-less you're nuts!  LOL!  THAT was FIRST!    :yippee: :smile:

It is a bright sunny 24°F right now.  Almost up there with J!  Heh! :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2018, 02:45:20 PM
decided I needed to be  rid of  FF so just got IE now which I think will behave  itself  least it has  so  far   :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 02:45:57 PM
Working outside for over forty years many people don't understand why when the sun comes up it get cold.  During the night water vapor condenses and collects on the ground as dew.  When the sun rises in the morning it starts heating the ground that has been cool all night, as it heat the ground the moisture evaporates and rises up so it cools the air for a short time about the first hour or more during the sun rise depending on how moist the air is how cold it gets.  This is more noticeable during the fall, winter and early spring.  You can look at the phenomena as nature swamp cooler.
 :sunny:

People wonder too why us old shift workers still tend to pop up at 5am.   The last 25 years in the industry I worked day shift, in maintenance.  Electrician/mechanic.  I did everything except life critical welding.  Loved the variety of work, using my mind with my hands, and seeing my work hard at work.   Satisfying!   I got myself into computer electronics and computer logic as an electrician.  I wonder if the days of being able to just 'bust in' to a trade on your own still exist.  Seems there are "credentials" required even for helpers now.   Been a good work life man, hard yes, but good.  :o)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 02, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
Not sure if he did or not....still haven't heard from him...I'll wait a bit longer and then give him a call to see what is what.....

I'm using FF 57 (Quantum) to post and read items on the forum without trouble.  I know that one of things that happened to me recently was the switch from Coffee Shop 2017 to Coffee Shop 2018.  I suddenly couldn't post and had to figure it out.  Perhaps if we hear the specific problem, we can offer suggestions.

LOL..>Everyone must be worn out from New Years or Christmas.  Oh well....

I'm heading out for a bit anyway....have a great day.


Oh, definitely worn out.  On coffee number 8 at the moment.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 02, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
got the  problem  solved  now  was a  switch  from 17 to 18   thanks  Sir Knight
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 02, 2018, 02:59:51 PM
I'm using FF 57 (Quantum) to post and read items on the forum without trouble.  I know that one of things that happened to me recently was the switch from Coffee Shop 2017 to Coffee Shop 2018.  I suddenly couldn't post and had to figure it out.  Perhaps if we hear the specific problem, we can offer suggestions.

Oh, definitely worn out.  On coffee number 8 at the moment.
You couldn't post in 2017 topic simply because I closed it. New Year, new topic! :winks: But I took some posts which were in 2017 topic to add them here, in the beginning of topic - and if you look, it's like if Rods has started the talk.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 03:15:18 PM
I'm using FF 57 (Quantum) to post and read items on the forum without trouble.  I know that one of things that happened to me recently was the switch from Coffee Shop 2017 to Coffee Shop 2018.  I suddenly couldn't post and had to figure it out.  Perhaps if we hear the specific problem, we can offer suggestions.

Oh, definitely worn out.  On coffee number 8 at the moment.

Don't worry brother, I did that too and Aelin gracefully and kindly informed me of my boo boo.  Being forgetful, there are a whole list of causes for that!  Heh!  I went round and opened a page in all the relevant 2018 threads and saved those links then out with the  :ny-fathertime: old!   Auld Ang Syne and All That!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 02, 2018, 03:19:06 PM
You couldn't post in 2017 topic simply because I closed it. New Year, new topic! :winks: But I took some posts which were in 2017 topic to add them here, in the beginning of topic - and if you look, it's like if Rods has started the talk.

Sounds like it's no longer a problem, for which I'm glad.  I was glad that you did it, Aelin.  Just a little slow on the uptake here.   :odd: :feelgood:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 03:28:13 PM
It is the 2nd and still feels like it has just made it to the afternoon of the 1st!   I am definitely getting OLD folks. 

TL, have you heard from Ray today?   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 02, 2018, 03:29:33 PM
Sounds like it's no longer a problem, for which I'm glad.  I was glad that you did it, Aelin.  Just a little slow on the uptake here.   :odd: :feelgood:
Sound like if you tool some (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/Smileys/default/pills.gif) of the nurse when I see you like that  :odd: Take care, it's dangerous thing!  :psycho:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 03:37:33 PM
Well  ... since eveyone else has gone to bed, I can't get one of the color sighted people here to tell me if this is red, but she does have a bow:

I'd love to ressurrect the Tauriel/Hobbit discussion!   Evangeline acknowledged that she knew there were whole clubs of people that were outraged at the non-book character being added in.  Well, I for one hope she can acknowledge there are whole clubs of people that are GLAD that Peter Jackson added Tauriel in!    She was terrific in that role, even though she was pregnant with her son, they found ways to get her looking not pregnant in film, SAFELY for her and baby!    But it is the character we fall in love with right?  hmm? 
 :yeow: Aww c'mon guys!   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 02, 2018, 03:43:58 PM
I'd love to ressurrect the Tauriel/Hobbit discussion!   Evangeline acknowledged that she knew there were whole clubs of people that were outraged at the non-book character being added in.  Well, I for one hope she can acknowledge there are whole clubs of people that are GLAD that Peter Jackson added Tauriel in!    She was terrific in that role, even though she was pregnant with her son, they found ways to get her looking not pregnant in film, SAFELY for her and baby!    But it is the character we fall in love with right?  hmm? 
 :yeow: Aww c'mon guys!
I haven't seen the movies yet, just trailers. But if she played like she was able to do in Lost, she made probably something good for the character.
And to see Elves only at the end for the battle, or during their drinking, no thank you :psycho:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 02, 2018, 03:56:02 PM
My only objection to a new character who sounds like one that Tolkien could have invented is one of memory. 

Perhaps Aelin is right and I just need to adjust my medications.   :woohoo: :thumb_up: :heeheehee: or that  :nopanic; ...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 04:31:26 PM
Good Afternoon to all.   Though it was cold enough for icicles to form on my moustache and beard.....I got the outside decorations down...for the most part.   Those damn $1 Plastic Candy Canes Lorna convinced me to buy and stick in the ground around the driveway are FROZEN in place now...as I predicted....and when I pull the first one up.....it snapped in two right away....so I just went and kicked the other 5 down right at the base and made a note to myself to make sure I get them pulled up in the spring....I'm sure the lawnmower won't appreciate them being there LOL...... Oh yes....I left Lorna a Bill for $6....and told her I'll take care of the tax :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 04:34:39 PM
TL, have you heard from Ray today?   

Nope...which is a GOOD thing.  That means she's listening and taking it easy.   As I said...Rest is Best....

Though I hardly practice what I preach.


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 05:07:35 PM
Nope...which is a GOOD thing.  That means she's listening and taking it easy.   As I said...Rest is Best....

Though I hardly practice what I preach.


Fun with Candy Canes!

Eh, woke up with a fever this morning. Felt like burning mush. Had to get ready to go to the grocery store because haven't been for two weeks :smile: Got home and every freeking bone in my body hurt - a lot. Rest? What's that? :odd: Tomorrow and the rest of tonight. Rest.

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 05:09:06 PM
I haven't seen the movies yet, just trailers. But if she played like she was able to do in Lost, she made probably something good for the character.
And to see Elves only at the end for the battle, or during their drinking, no thank you :psycho:

You bet she did! Just as good as Lost :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 05:12:39 PM
I haven't seen the movies yet, just trailers. But if she played like she was able to do in Lost, she made probably something good for the character.
And to see Elves only at the end for the battle, or during their drinking, no thank you :psycho:

Naw, not the Elves.  Well that was how Bilbo got the keys to free the party of Dwarves while in Elronds castle dungeon.  The Elf watch were sitting round a table drinking wine.   So, Bilbo freed the empty barrels for the Bargeman to pickup but these ones had Dwarves in them.  Tada!  Their river escape!   Chase ensues and Tauriel goes after, to look after her sweetie Dwarf.  Naturally Orlando Blooms character shows up to steer her back, but ends up going with also.  Oops, there's the show!  Ha!   Hope you enjoyed the ride to Laketown.  Oh that darn dragon woke up.  Gee.  And Bilbo makes it right to the middle of that problem too!  That Hobbit sure gets around don't he?!
But it's the DWARVES that always seem to be drinking!  Ha!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 05:20:51 PM
Fun with Candy Canes!

Eh, woke up with a fever this morning. Felt like burning mush. Had to get ready to go to the grocery store because haven't been for two weeks :smile: Got home and every freeking bone in my body hurt - a lot. Rest? What's that? :odd: Tomorrow and the rest of tonight. Rest.



You listen like I listen.....  HEYYYYY....What did ya sayyyyyy......  But sometimes you gotta do things when you feel best....so I won't lecture you to hard.   

Don't know if you remember those silly Candy Canes in the pics I posted in FB showing the decorations.  They were actually 98 cents each but I didn't want all to think that Lorna was Cheap....she is mind you....but didn't want you to think that way  :java:   Anyway....Guess when you're temps get to minus 22 at night, plastic turns brittle LOLOL 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 02, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
And what do you think they are so cheap TL? To allow the company to sell a lot of their 'babies' year after year after year :psycho:

Excellent end of day guys! And Ray, take care of you now!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 05:34:38 PM
LOLOL....Exactly what I told Lorna.   I have some Candy Cane props that are at least 11 years old....a chip here and there....but that's about it...

You have a great Night Aelin....and yes....I cleaned out the the Rendo Crypt you sent me to....much to the dismay of the external doing all the work LOLOL....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 05:43:06 PM
You bet she did! Just as good as Lost :winks:

Before the Hobbit movies, I saw her in Real Steel.   THEN I looked at a couple of those Lost episodes.  They should have been lost.  Reality TV my butt!   Crap shows.   She was the only redeeming point in it.   
Ah, she is also in Ant Man, with Michael Douglas playing her characters Father.   Pretty good movie with a new super-anti-hero!  It didn't get much publicity so box office was flat.  But it really is a nice production, lots of cool effects and a good story.   
I still loved her as Tauriel.   She and Aidan Turner turned in very believable performances in developing their all too brief relationship as Tauriel the Sylvan Elf falling for the Dwarf Kili.  It was a hard time, one of danger and trouble all  around, and it erupted into the Battle of the Five Armies.  And there, when Kili dies, the Elf King did NOT call her down about True Love.  But he had also lost the Love of his Life.   Tear jerker!   ALL the performances in these movies were good, they felt real and were very enjoyable.   And, how'd y'all like Benedict Cumberbatch as SMAUG the Fire Dragon eh?!  Cool huh!  I still recall Tauriel jumping and flying through the air, shooting arrows, dodging blows, slashing with her Elvish Rapier, throwing her daggers, shooting more arrows, and all while seeming to be everywhere at once, earning Legolas praise!   Great job!   
I also loved Kate Blanchette as Galadriel, the Lady of the Wood.  She was so great for that part!   She was so consistent with it through all the films too.  Sigh.  !!!  heh heh!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 05:46:14 PM
Naw, not the Elves.  Well that was how Bilbo got the keys to free the party of Dwarves while in Elronds castle dungeon.  The Elf watch were sitting round a table drinking wine.   So, Bilbo freed the empty barrels for the Bargeman to pickup but these ones had Dwarves in them.  Tada!  Their river escape!   Chase ensues and Tauriel goes after, to look after her sweetie Dwarf.  Naturally Orlando Blooms character shows up to steer her back, but ends up going with also.  Oops, there's the show!  Ha!   Hope you enjoyed the ride to Laketown.  Oh that darn dragon woke up.  Gee.  And Bilbo makes it right to the middle of that problem too!  That Hobbit sure gets around don't he?!
But it's the DWARVES that always seem to be drinking!  Ha!


Talk about a spoiler!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
You listen like I listen.....  HEYYYYY....What did ya sayyyyyy......  But sometimes you gotta do things when you feel best....so I won't lecture you to hard.   

Don't know if you remember those silly Candy Canes in the pics I posted in FB showing the decorations.  They were actually 98 cents each but I didn't want all to think that Lorna was Cheap....she is mind you....but didn't want you to think that way  :java:   Anyway....Guess when you're temps get to minus 22 at night, plastic turns brittle LOLOL 


I had no choice - or don't go to the store for the rest of the week. See, no choice.

I think I remember them. Yup, I bet they DO get brittle!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 05:57:38 PM
Before the Hobbit movies, I saw her in Real Steel.   THEN I looked at a couple of those Lost episodes.  They should have been lost.  Reality TV my butt!   Crap shows.   She was the only redeeming point in it.   
Ah, she is also in Ant Man, with Michael Douglas playing her characters Father.   Pretty good movie with a new super-anti-hero!  It didn't get much publicity so box office was flat.  But it really is a nice production, lots of cool effects and a good story.   
I still loved her as Tauriel.   She and Aidan Turner turned in very believable performances in developing their all too brief relationship as Tauriel the Sylvan Elf falling for the Dwarf Kili.  It was a hard time, one of danger and trouble all  around, and it erupted into the Battle of the Five Armies.  And there, when Kili dies, the Elf King did NOT call her down about True Love.  But he had also lost the Love of his Life.   Tear jerker!   ALL the performances in these movies were good, they felt real and were very enjoyable.   And, how'd y'all like Benedict Cumberbatch as SMAUG the Fire Dragon eh?!  Cool huh!  I still recall Tauriel jumping and flying through the air, shooting arrows, dodging blows, slashing with her Elvish Rapier, throwing her daggers, shooting more arrows, and all while seeming to be everywhere at once, earning Legolas praise!   Great job!   
I also loved Kate Blanchette as Galadriel, the Lady of the Wood.  She was so great for that part!   She was so consistent with it through all the films too.  Sigh.  !!!  heh heh!


LOST was absolutely not a reality tv show. It was a drama and it was very good really...until the end. They sort of flubbed the end, imo. Oh, that's right - you don't like whatshisname, the producer. Really, it was a very complex story and if you weren't watching it all along it didn't make much sense, because you didn't really know what was going on.


SMAUG is the most awesome thing in that movie!!! Spinning into the heavens covered in gold! Splendid!!! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 06:00:44 PM
And what do you think they are so cheap TL? To allow the company to sell a lot of their 'babies' year after year after year :psycho:

Excellent end of day guys! And Ray, take care of you now!

Trying.... Thanks, Aelin. Good night to you! :peek:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 06:10:35 PM
To heck with Renderosity.  Inundated with G3F, G8F, Genesis 8 this, Genesis 3 that, Iray out the kazoo.  ALL studio ONLY,  nothing for Poser!   Shutting door  ON RENDEROSITY.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 02, 2018, 06:21:59 PM

LOST was absolutely not a reality tv show. It was a drama and it was very good really...until the end. They sort of flubbed the end, imo. Oh, that's right - you don't like whatshisname, the producer. Really, it was a very complex story and if you weren't watching it all along it didn't make much sense, because you didn't really know what was going on.


SMAUG is the most awesome thing in that movie!!! Spinning into the heavens covered in gold! Splendid!!! 

Mom and Hughy (Stepfather) Loved Lost.  Which to me was kind of surprising since I normally had to explain most shows to them....but Lost they seemed to understand and they enjoyed it.   And like you said Ray...the end was not something they liked either....flubbed is a good word compared to what Hughy called it.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 06:47:48 PM

LOST was absolutely not a reality tv show. It was a drama and it was very good really...until the end. They sort of flubbed the end, imo. Oh, that's right - you don't like whatshisname, the producer. Really, it was a very complex story and if you weren't watching it all along it didn't make much sense, because you didn't really know what was going on.


SMAUG is the most awesome thing in that movie!!! Spinning into the heavens covered in gold! Splendid!!!

LOST passed itself off as "Reality TV" in the commercials.   That's why I said what I did.  No two ways about it, it was all acted out drama.   I binge watched the first two seasons, decided that this show wasn't what the commercials said it was, and I really didn't like it.  So I quit watching it.  I didn't forget Evangeline Lilly though.   And I don't know who the producer was, and don't care either.  The one good thing from the show, IMO, was Lilly.

The whole set of the Hobbit movies, ending with Desolation of Smaug and Battle of the Five Armies, were so visually rich and beautiful!   Smaug was so well done it was hard to hate him.   I was sad when the Black Arrow found its mark and he died.   Pity the Dragons and Humanoids couldn't find a way to get along in peace like they did in Eragon.   

Eragon.  THE BOOKS.  That was a beautiful story, and I envision that it could be made accurate to the books now.  Jackson gave Tolkien's writings such a rich reality.  I reckon he could do the same to the *BIG* story (4 book cycle) that Christopher Paolini wrote.   He started out writing Eragon as a teenager.  His folks and he chose to self promote and self publish it.   What they DID was generate enough attention that a well known publishing house offered to pick up Eragon.   However anyone chooses to interpret the various histories that exist of these events, it all resulted in Chris becoming a New York Times Bestselling Author as a teenager (19).   He wrote and Knopf published the other three books of the Inheritance Cycle too.  The movie Eragon was a flop, and the Director blamed a very tightly limited budget.  Which was $100,000,000.00 US.   Yeah.  Right.  I blame Stefen Fangmeier, that Director.   They did have a couple known actors, like Jeremy Irons and Sienna Guillory.   They did have some CGI that had to be paid for.   But c'mon, Tronjheim was a CITY all in STONE, a HUGE place under and in the flat bottom of an ancient volcano caldera so high we couldn't survive the altitude.   They did a lot of things so wrong the film should never have been named "Eragon".   It should never have been made, it was that bad.   But it SHOULD be made!   :o)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 06:54:19 PM

Talk about a spoiler!!

<BLINK>       <BLINK>       Wha!!?!    Hang on there, (IMDB checkup)  Nope, not a new release by three years!   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 07:00:39 PM
Mom and Hughy (Stepfather) Loved Lost.  Which to me was kind of surprising since I normally had to explain most shows to them....but Lost they seemed to understand and they enjoyed it.   And like you said Ray...the end was not something they liked either....flubbed is a good word compared to what Hughy called it.....

Lol...I bet it started with an 'F' though :winks: The thing is EVERYONE had their own ideas about what the end would be because it all had to resolve itself somehow. And they flat blew it. Pity.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 07:03:53 PM
<BLINK>       <BLINK>       Wha!!?!    Hang on there, (IMDB checkup)  Nope, not a new release by three years!

I think her idea was that she wanted it for a birthday present to sit down and unwrap in expectation and perhaps some sense of discovery as she slid it into the player and pressed PLAY. It's got nothing to do with release dates on IMDB.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 07:15:18 PM
I think her idea was that she wanted it for a birthday present to sit down and unwrap in expectation and perhaps some sense of discovery as she slid it into the player and pressed PLAY. It's got nothing to do with release dates on IMDB.


 Ahhh.   My bad.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 02, 2018, 07:56:21 PM
There was a 'Lost' reality tv show

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0292816/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm


And there was Kate, Doc, Sawyer, Hurley, Jin and Sun, Sayid, etc.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_8
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 09:14:12 PM
I was aware of the first, and likely confused it with the second.  Did not watch the first, I was working back then.  The ONLY thing I tried to keep up with was Star Trek: Enterprise and Voyager and DS9 back in those days around the turn of the millennia.    Turn of the Millennia.  What a phrase!  The creaking of a gigantic rusty hinged gate swinging around comes to mind with it.

I just don't care for non-science fiction and non-fantasy dramas much at all.   Most of the science type shows are ok.  Some of the history stuff is ok.  Some movies are ok.   See I'm easy to keep happy!

I would not have been interested in MANY actors long at all if I had not seen them in some sort of Sci-Fi/Fantasy show.   I got where I hated comedy shows.  Too when Jim Carey started out, I liked him.   Jeff Foxworthy, same.  Just life changes made changes in me, my thinking, my tastes.  Happens to lots of folks. 
I LIKE Sci-Fi/Fantasy so much because it takes me way way away from the problems of Life for a while.   Its also what I like about my "Art".    But, walk away from the computers and TV, and I am mostly fresh and clear for a while, at least.   Heck I might even smile a time or two!   ;o)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 02, 2018, 10:00:42 PM
Is anyone still interested in Tauriel like likenesses?

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=97333

It's a fine character set, great textures.  Even if you don't think it looks enough like "HER"...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 03, 2018, 04:07:47 AM
That looks very nice indeed on the wish list it goes ...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 04:44:28 AM

LOST was absolutely not a reality tv show. It was a drama and it was very good really...until the end. They sort of flubbed the end, imo. Oh, that's right - you don't like whatshisname, the producer. Really, it was a very complex story and if you weren't watching it all along it didn't make much sense, because you didn't really know what was going on.


SMAUG is the most awesome thing in that movie!!! Spinning into the heavens covered in gold! Splendid!!!
Yes I loved Lost series, and love again! Even the end.
But I never understand how Kate could prefer Jake to Sawyer, specially with all bad aspects he has shown :panic: (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/Smileys/default/LOL_87.gif)

The whole set of the Hobbit movies, ending with Desolation of Smaug and Battle of the Five Armies, were so visually rich and beautiful!   Smaug was so well done it was hard to hate him.   I was sad when the Black Arrow found its mark and he died.   Pity the Dragons and Humanoids couldn't find a way to get along in peace like they did in Eragon.
Smaug can't be a good dragon, no one dragon can be good in Middle Earth. It's exposed in The Silmarillon what is their origin.

I think her idea was that she wanted it for a birthday present to sit down and unwrap in expectation and perhaps some sense of discovery as she slid it into the player and pressed PLAY. It's got nothing to do with release dates on IMDB.
:psycho: No problem with that, a spoiler of Hobbit movies without images can't give enough idea!

Good morning guys!
It's storm Eleonore here from the night. I cross fingers to keep the power here, because already 200 000 houses are without electricity in France. Even cats are very quiet but worry, and were ready to run under furnitures in the little morning.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 07:04:47 AM
Does somebody notice that "Giveaway of the Day" block in the left bottom of forum is 'empty'? (I see the name of block, but the block itself doesn't appear :hypno: ).
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 03, 2018, 08:06:45 AM
Why Jack indeed, Kate? One of the great unsolved mysteries of the show. Lol.

Quote
:psycho: No problem with that, a spoiler of Hobbit movies without images can't give enough idea!

 Sorry, I mistook my personal preferences for someone else's.


Yup, NADA down there in that block.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 03, 2018, 08:12:46 AM
Good morning. Stay warm and drive carefully.

I still feel like something that starts with 's'. Woke up with a fever again. I've had this for a month now. It was just apparently hibernating for a week or two there.

I don't think it's going away any time soon. I wish it would though!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 03, 2018, 08:58:20 AM
Rayvn  take care of you  get plenty rest  take your  meds  and drink  plenty of  fluids  should help you get  better 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 03, 2018, 10:48:56 AM
Good morning Sidherose!

Good morning. Stay warm and drive carefully.

I still feel like something that starts with 's'. Woke up with a fever again. I've had this for a month now. It was just apparently hibernating for a week or two there.

I don't think it's going away any time soon. I wish it would though!!!!!!!!!!

Grandma's advice would be "stay as warm as you can stand, drink a pint of hot milk with plenty of honey and a slug of rum, get a good book and snuggle in bed under a wool blanket till morning". Grandpa (more practical) would rather recommend "see a doctor, and if you don't like what he says see another one".

Whatever you decide to do take good care of yourself, stay away from the Nurse and come back ASAP in full health! :smile:
:thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 10:56:56 AM
Good Morning to all..... 

Had to get the drive and steps cleaned off due to a dusting of snow....

But my my my....they are calling that storm on the heading towards the East Coast a "Bomb Cyclone".  I've been chatting with my Brother on his plans and he said he and Carol will be heading to Newport to be with Mom...so all is good on that part.

Stay safe all of our East Coast friends.....this storm seems to have EVERYTHING.  :thud:

Aelin...I believe the ticker is not ticking on the free giveaway section.

Other then that...another freezing day here.   Been getting the judges all ready for their first judging of the year.  Most are back from the Holidays but they are playing catch up on real life.....but...... we should have results back by later today or early tomorrow.

Ray....That's a long time to feel so crappy.  I hope whatever it is goes away my friend.  I hate getting sick for one day let alone one month  :thud:

Any snow or ice there yet Fafnir?   Just turned the weather channel on so I can keep up with what's happening in our attic friends areas and Moms area and the Daughter and Grands in Maine....

But gotta grab a :java: and see what else is going on....be back in a bit.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 11:10:07 AM
:panic: "bomb cyclone" that sounds bad really. Everybody take care!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 11:34:30 AM
They just showed it Snowing in Florida.....  And nothing but Ice on the roads in SC. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 03, 2018, 11:45:47 AM
well  I ain't got no snow yet still 58 here but tomorrow  it  gonna  be  colder than a witches  tit in a brass  bra  so  we  might  get some  snow now up J ville way and  the  panhandle   I would  think they got  some  snow
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 12:02:58 PM
I-10 is near you right?  They shut that down this morning...ICY CONDITIONS (https://www.clickorlando.com/traffic/icy-conditions-close-50-mile-stretch-of-i-10-in-florida)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 12:05:44 PM
Has anyone in here ever purchased the Backstage Pass at EvilInnocence?   I see they have it reduced in price as an introductory offer...but what caught my interested is over 200 exclusive items can be had at no additional cost.  Just curious...not planning on buying the pass.....Maybe  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 01:20:16 PM
Nope I haven't it - it's even 431 free items with it.
I know 2 or 3 years ago everybody was able to obtain 1 freebie of that Backstage Pass, probably like a bait :pervy:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 01:35:19 PM
Good Afternoon Attic Denizens!  It has surprisingly climbed from the forecast 20°F to a lovely 45°F.  I fell asleep on the sofa watching the movie Novarian, Mogwai was right beside me, and somehow my house shoes fell off.  I had a wonderful nap!  LOL!  :ny-fathertime:

The sky is clear and the sun is shining so bright.   A really beautiful day up on the Caprock in the beautiful Texas Panhandle!    Amazing day to wake up to.   Feels like early morning, but the clock and sun right overhead say nope, half the day gone.

Aelin sorry to throw in a spoiler on you.    But you're right too, in that for these movies you need pictures to go with words to make sense of the descriptions!   The visuals in all of these movies are just gorgeous.   I have all of them, some of them twice.   And I don't regret buying any of them.  They each offer lots of special features.  Tons of behind the scenes and talk from the actors.  Loved that stuff as much as the films themselves.  Wow.   Seeing how they do so much of the stunts is great, and seeing how the build the worlds inside that giant stage setting is boggling.  Oh boy.  You GOT to see all that stuff Aelin!   
I think I have almost talked myself into a Hobbit marathon very soon.  To see it all in gorgeous Full HD on the 40" HD Widescreen Sceptre TV will be a treat.   Terrific picture!

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 01:44:03 PM
Don't be sorry, believe me. Sometimes I read quickly in the coffee shop. And I remember between all your message I saw the spoiler word in capitales. I passed to the next message, and I don't remember what I saw.
But trailers are kind of spoilers, and even if it's not totally like the book, book is also a kind of spoiler. At least I know the beginning, the end, and main steps of the adventure.
I think when I'll have movies I'll look them directly in English. With subtitles to begin of course. Because now I started to look series and movies that I know already, I hear how many dubbing of actors isn't good. When you know only French version, they set tone, but when you hear the original version the tone is very different; back to the French version it's... horrible to listen. And sometimes we have mistranslation of few sentences in French :hypno:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 02:43:19 PM
I-10, The biggest longest main artery from East Coast (Jacksonville, FL) to West Coast (Los Angeles, CA).  That is a long piece of road!  The night it opened for traffic, I was one of the first ones on it.  Going home on 20 days leave,  65 Ford Galaxie 500 family car.  My first car.  Yaknow, at night with no streetlights lit anywhere on it, that is a DARK drive man.  Just your headlights, and all that darkness, driving through it at 55-60 mph (yep the daze of the double nickel!) was spooky.  And kind of hypnotic.  I got on it in Jacksonville, drove to Alabama, pulled over to the side and just slept.  Woke up to dawn, then drove on to Houston.   Going back a couple weeks later, the street lights were on all the way.  What a difference!
                                                                                   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 02:47:13 PM

Smaug can't be a good dragon, no one dragon can be good in Middle Earth. It's exposed in The Silmarillon what is their origin.


I got to read that Silmarillon!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 03:00:01 PM
I-10, The biggest longest main artery from East Coast (Jacksonville, FL) to West Coast (Los Angeles, CA).  That is a long piece of road!  The night it opened for traffic, I was one of the first ones on it.  Going home on 20 days leave,  65 Ford Galaxie 500 family car.  My first car.  Yaknow, at night with no streetlights lit anywhere on it, that is a DARK drive man.  Just your headlights, and all that darkness, driving through it at 55-60 mph (yep the daze of the double nickel!) was spooky.  And kind of hypnotic.  I got on it in Jacksonville, drove to Alabama, pulled over to the side and just slept.  Woke up to dawn, then drove on to Houston.   Going back a couple weeks later, the street lights were on all the way.  What a difference!
                                                                                   

Drove on it many times when making my Southern swing from Texas to Florida.  One of my Customers in Florida was Yowns Boiler (http://www.yowns.com/products.htm) in Jacksonville...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Hey guys, have you see that?
https://www.howtogeek.com/338269/a-huge-intel-security-hole-could-slow-down-your-pc-soon/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/03/major-security-flaw-found-intel-processors-computers-windows-mac-os-linux
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 03, 2018, 03:24:05 PM
Hey guys, have you see that?
https://www.howtogeek.com/338269/a-huge-intel-security-hole-could-slow-down-your-pc-soon/ (https://www.howtogeek.com/338269/a-huge-intel-security-hole-could-slow-down-your-pc-soon/)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/03/major-security-flaw-found-intel-processors-computers-windows-mac-os-linux (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jan/03/major-security-flaw-found-intel-processors-computers-windows-mac-os-linux)

Yes.  It looks like the system will have to be moved into a separate address space which will make each request to the system a little slower.  It's likely the "go as fast as you can" work that Intel has been doing for a while is the cause of this. 

Did you also see that NVIDIA has changed the license on their software to disallow the use of the commodity GPU's in data centers? 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 03:28:02 PM
Absolutely not  :puah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 03, 2018, 03:48:50 PM
January hasn't been a very good month for computer stuff so far. 

Linux fix is in testing.  Windows fix is in the testing versions.  Amazon and Google cloud services say they will reboot fairly soon to apply the fix when they have it.   This can be all kinds of bad for services like the Attic if the bad guys have figured out how to exploit it.   :OMFG:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 05:03:40 PM
The sad thing is....it's never ending.  Once a fix for anything is in place....something else is exploited.  But then again....the more things change....the more they stay the same..  We'll see what happens.  We certainly have little or no control over it....

Best we can do is take the necessary precautions....keep up to date with all items on the computer, and keep up to date with what is being done to resolve issues.  Places like How To Geek seem to be the lead when news comes out....and when fixes are in place.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 03, 2018, 05:30:30 PM
I sought for English news like I saw that first in French, and yes Howtogeek was almost the first site in the list for you.
But hosts like OVH (which Europa is very dependent) will need to make the change too. Sites will be slow for hours tomorrow. Amazon will do the same, which significate that maybe freebies on Renderosity can be nearly impossible to catch.
Well, essential is we are protected.

Excellent end of day guys!
Storm is always blowing here,.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
Agreed on all points and you have a great night Aelin.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 06:25:17 PM
January hasn't been a very good month for computer stuff so far. 

Linux fix is in testing.  Windows fix is in the testing versions.  Amazon and Google cloud services say they will reboot fairly soon to apply the fix when they have it.   This can be all kinds of bad for services like the Attic if the bad guys have figured out how to exploit it.   :OMFG:

In The Beginning, we feared the Bombs, then following that it was the Trojan Horse, and not so long after that came the Virus.  Then the Worm.   Truly it never ends.   BUT, things are not always quite exactly what the "big shots" tell US they are.  Stay tuned, more from the Grass Roots at 2. ;o)
McG.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 06:37:01 PM
First there was DOS.   Next came some THING (I forgot its name) that ran on DOS, then later there was a M$ version of the same, then  M$ sprang this thing called "Windows" on us.   And we thought that meant multitasking.  It did not.  Some of us kept using the HP produced thing because it DID do multitasking even on the plain old 8 bit CPU's.  Of course, nothing lasts for long in the realm.   We got true 16 bit processors, better I/O arrays, video, sound and color windows.  Then we got color Windows from M$.   Quick Basic 3.5 was the first to produce multitasking and color windows in the same package, before M$.  BUT, the  M$ version did not have to be built then compiled to use.  Sigh.  The User went for convenience, who'd a thunk it?!?! 
All that while, FIDO NET was subverted and OWNED by the real hackers.  Still is, and they are the head of the poison pimple, they are their own entry and corridor THROUGH all the networking on the planet now. 
It is unfortunate that ALL the commercial iT industry that exists cannot organize themselves into a united front that CAN conquer the real enemy.   Our sons and daughters, cousins and nephews and nieces and aunts and uncles and moms and dads that refuse to give in.   But I havent really figured out what it is they are all refusing to give in TO?   Seems to me they believe in someone elses propagandized near religious fervored sales pitch. 
Oh well.  I can't fix it, but I won't contribute to the problem either.   And I absolutely refuse to support McCaffey and Norton and everyone else that has been caught creating problems to fix.  Job security.
That's it. Had my say.  Go play everyone!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 03, 2018, 06:56:55 PM
Has anyone in here ever purchased the Backstage Pass at EvilInnocence?   I see they have it reduced in price as an introductory offer...but what caught my interested is over 200 exclusive items can be had at no additional cost.  Just curious...not planning on buying the pass.....Maybe  :java:

I bought it once before, it is an auto renew until you till it to stop, so in essence buy it for the month and everything you can get on it is free, it is a small price for the return you get from using it.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Radkres on January 03, 2018, 07:25:10 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!


The Attachment For People who want it.


http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=33291
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 08:17:58 PM
I bought it once before, it is an auto renew until you till it to stop, so in essence buy it for the month and everything you can get on it is free, it is a small price for the return you get from using it.

Thanks....was thinking about doing it just that way....but they do use paypal and I'm good at shutting off auto payments when I'm done gathering what I need to gather LOLOL

I'm thinking I'll give them a try....just because....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 08:19:57 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!


The Attachment For People who want it.


http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=33291

Thanks Rad...and hope your year is a stella one also my friend....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 03, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
First there was DOS.   Next came some THING (I forgot its name) that ran on DOS, then later there was a M$ version of the same, then  M$ sprang this thing called "Windows" on us.   And we thought that meant multitasking.  It did not.  Some of us kept using the HP produced thing because it DID do multitasking even on the plain old 8 bit CPU's.  Of course, nothing lasts for long in the realm.   We got true 16 bit processors, better I/O arrays, video, sound and color windows.  Then we got color Windows from M$.   Quick Basic 3.5 was the first to produce multitasking and color windows in the same package, before M$.  BUT, the  M$ version did not have to be built then compiled to use.  Sigh.  The User went for convenience, who'd a thunk it?!?! 
All that while, FIDO NET was subverted and OWNED by the real hackers.  Still is, and they are the head of the poison pimple, they are their own entry and corridor THROUGH all the networking on the planet now. 
It is unfortunate that ALL the commercial iT industry that exists cannot organize themselves into a united front that CAN conquer the real enemy.   Our sons and daughters, cousins and nephews and nieces and aunts and uncles and moms and dads that refuse to give in.   But I havent really figured out what it is they are all refusing to give in TO?   Seems to me they believe in someone elses propagandized near religious fervored sales pitch. 
Oh well.  I can't fix it, but I won't contribute to the problem either.   And I absolutely refuse to support McCaffey and Norton and everyone else that has been caught creating problems to fix.  Job security.
That's it. Had my say.  Go play everyone!


So......What do you use for Virus Protection?    Kaspersky Labs  :java: LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 08:45:03 PM
So......What do you use for Virus Protection?    Kaspersky Labs  :java: LOLOL

Oh you aren't gonna like my answer at all TL.   Nothing but my Win 7 64 bit firewall and my external router firewall.   Malware of ANY sort the last 8 years:   One incident of ransomware easily removed.   See, I found the worst of what had been "found" was planted by the AV in the first place.  Downright crappy thing to say, but true anyway.   The first one I discovered a "job security" problem with was AVG.  Then when I tried McCaffey, same thing.  And Norton did far worse than that man.  Norton embedded itself in the system as a "Root Kit", and was HELL to get out completely.   In the end, I distrusted that mess so much I did a full drive wipe and reinstalled the OS on a blank drive.    Have had 0 malware issues in over 5 years now.   Who else present and reading this can say the same?   The things that help is first, full 64 bit OS, next are the two firewalls in tandem.  Actually there is a third. I am real picky about where I go on the net.   And what email I even accept, and open.  If I don't know you, I don't read you.  OR answer your phone call.  Email me the number first eh?   Then I know what's coming.    :o)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 08:55:13 PM
The thing about the 64 bit OS, quick nutshell bit.   Some motherboard manufacturers realized a need for deep level protection.   It was discovered that one thing the old Trojan Horses introduced were a virus injected directly into the systems running kernel.  Gigabyte is one of the first companies to employ several innovative ideas.  Dual BIOS is one.  Another is on a full 64 bit system, both the machine and OS installed are 64 bits.  The BIOS/SYStem chipset, something down there, are set to detect in real time first what the actual KERNEL is and records that in a safe place,  then it constantly checks for differences, as the OS does not change any part of the KERNEL on the fly.  IF a difference is detected, the BIOS (or whatever part is doing the checking) issues a Power OFF on the CPU.  Instant NOTHING.  The system goes down instantly.  No write behind is thwarted as this would be the perfect time for any malware to actually embed.   Instead, nothing happens.  I am guessing the system is given a reason to quarantine whatever modified the KERNEL.  It is never allowed to run again.    THIS feature is a good ten years old.  And I won't buy a motherboard without it. 
It works!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 03, 2018, 08:58:47 PM
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!


The Attachment For People who want it.


http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=33291 (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=33291)

RADKRES!   Thanks and a very Merry and a really Happy New year to you too!   Great to see ya. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 03, 2018, 09:31:58 PM
Oh you aren't gonna like my answer at all TL.   Nothing but my Win 7 64 bit firewall and my external router firewall.   Malware of ANY sort the last 8 years:   One incident of ransomware easily removed.   See, I found the worst of what had been "found" was planted by the AV in the first place.  Downright crappy thing to say, but true anyway.   The first one I discovered a "job security" problem with was AVG.  Then when I tried McCaffey, same thing.  And Norton did far worse than that man.  Norton embedded itself in the system as a "Root Kit", and was HELL to get out completely.   In the end, I distrusted that mess so much I did a full drive wipe and reinstalled the OS on a blank drive.    Have had 0 malware issues in over 5 years now.   Who else present and reading this can say the same?   The things that help is first, full 64 bit OS, next are the two firewalls in tandem.  Actually there is a third. I am real picky about where I go on the net.   And what email I even accept, and open.  If I don't know you, I don't read you.  OR answer your phone call.  Email me the number first eh?   Then I know what's coming.    :o)


Snicker that is what is running on the Win 10 box I use for the net, and it got one piece of that wanna cry rubbish and got rid of it with no trouble. I periodically look at it with other diagnostic stuff but there is nothing there and I am with you in regards to if I don't know you it don't get opened. I too am selective as to where I go, and why, the only other thing I do is run the No script app.

Oh it is a 64 bit box as well.

Stormbringer, I do not even connect to the net unless one of the programs whines about registration which has not happened in a long ass time. It to is a 64 bit system too.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 04, 2018, 12:21:49 AM
We ARE having fun, aren't we?  Heh!

BTW, those AV/Security programs I used to run?  I paid for those.   And now they use subscription rates higher than Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler combined.   

Happy New Year Everyone!   :o)

 :new_year_3: :ny-fathertime: :ny4:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 05:27:08 AM
Too right
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 04, 2018, 06:33:34 AM
Who else present and reading this can say the same?

I can.

Good morning!

And now for the weather report.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 04, 2018, 06:44:50 AM
:panic: One picture is better than words.

Good morning guys!
Here we are lucky, no more storm, just a lot of rain by moments.
Hoping everybody is and will be fine with the weather you have. It looks like planes are canceled from Europa toward US East Coast.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 04, 2018, 06:48:25 AM
So, Aelin, you've been able to keep your power?  I believe I saw a report of at least 200 000 people without power there.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 04, 2018, 06:55:19 AM
Yes we kept all the long of storm the power here, even with the strong winds - this night roof and windows cried during a moment. But we were lucky compared to some areas. It's often down lines, or trees on lines for the cut of power.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 07:10:31 AM
Rayvn  take care of you  get plenty rest  take your  meds  and drink  plenty of  fluids  should help you get  better

Thanks Fafnir. Been sleeping and sleeping. No meds to take for this stuff - not yet. Hopefully on Friday! Gotta drink fluids because I'm so hot all the time I'm dried out.


Good morning Sidherose!

Grandma's advice would be "stay as warm as you can stand, drink a pint of hot milk with plenty of honey and a slug of rum, get a good book and snuggle in bed under a wool blanket till morning". Grandpa (more practical) would rather recommend "see a doctor, and if you don't like what he says see another one".

Whatever you decide to do take good care of yourself, stay away from the Nurse and come back ASAP in full health! :smile:
:thumb_up:

Good morning Chiron,

Nice to see you back.

I don't have to try to stay warm as I can stand it. I'm either burning up or freezing. Sometimes both at once! 

Doing the doctor thing tomorrow. All I know is everything makes me tired - even petting my poor kitty who feels neglected. 


Thanks too and I hope you both are doing fine!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 07:15:46 AM
Yes we kept all the long of storm the power here, even with the strong winds - this night roof and windows cried during a moment. But we were lucky compared to some areas. It's often down lines, or trees on lines for the cut of power.

Oh wow. That's a lot of people without power. Glad you still have yours Aelin. Take care.

I guess that's that 'Bomb Cyclone' clawing toward the East Coast there, Sir Knight? That doesn't look much like fun. You all stay safe warm, and battened down.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 04, 2018, 07:32:53 AM
sidherose, I'm so sorry to hear that you're still really sick.  I hope that the doctor will have something to offer to help.

Yes, that's the bomb cyclone.  I believe that one can actually see the super low pressue at center of that curl of the storm, just a few hundred miles from here.  It really is a beautiful planet.

Hatches are battened down.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 07:43:24 AM
sidherose, I'm so sorry to hear that you're still really sick.  I hope that the doctor will have something to offer to help.

Yes, that's the bomb cyclone.  I believe that one can actually see the super low pressue at center of that curl of the storm, just a few hundred miles from here.  It really is a beautiful planet.

Hatches are battened down.

Yes, hopefully she'll give me anti-biotics for it, because the 'wait and see if you heal on your own' isn't working obviously. I haven't had any anti-biotics's in at least 12 years if not longer. With my luck though there's probably some reason anti-biotics are not working on this stuff.

Yes, right there at the 'little' comma tail you can see it. That thing is humongous! Glad you're all battened down hon :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 07:44:47 AM
Good morning, belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well, Radkress! That's a lovely angel :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 04, 2018, 09:53:55 AM
Good Morning To All.   

Mc-G.....  Each to their own when it comes to protection.   I've never been hit.  Knock on wood.     

Ray.... Hope the Doctor does something more for you also.  I never liked the "Let's wait and see" method of healing.  Seems like after the wait I pay for twice as many meds to get me well again when it would have only taken one to fix all.

Storms Storms Storms everywhere.  Glad you made out OK last night Aelin..... 

And it's just starting to rev up in New England.   My Brother is with my Mother in Newport, which is a good thing.  His wife, Carol stayed home ...they live in a Apartment Complex in Manville that has generators.  Which is RARE in New England.

Today I start taking down my decorations.  Normally I'd keep them up till July...but we have a kitten now...no sense tempting temptation....  :java:

I see "J" is off work today.....wonder what kind of trouble he'll be getting into  :tearlaugh:

Good Morning to your Sir Knight and Chiron and Fafnir and Rad and PDG....and whoever else is lurking about.

Now to see what is what in here...beside those Icons that need changing....they are beginning to irritate me LOLOLOL.

Ahhhh :java: this should calm me down......or not.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 04, 2018, 10:06:43 AM
Good morning, TL.  Is the weather holding for you? 

I'm sure it's not for your mom.  I've been praying for her safety.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 10:24:41 AM


I see "J" is off work today.....wonder what kind of trouble he'll be getting into  :tearlaugh:



Already caused my share of trouble ... :iminnocent: now we are off to the book store :luvbooks:

Based on the last time I used my bread machine in which it did not do so good of a job, and it has on the last three loaves I baked in it, had only one that came out proper.


So we are going back, to the way back method rolling and kneading it by hand, and see how that works for me.

Which is the reason for the book store we need us a recipe book for breads

 :heeheehee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 04, 2018, 10:34:38 AM
Already caused my share of trouble ... :iminnocent: now we are off to the book store :luvbooks:

Based on the last time I used my bread machine in which it did not do so good of a job, and it has on the last three loaves I baked in it, had only one that came out proper.


So we are going back, to the way back method rolling and kneading it by hand, and see how that works for me.

Which is the reason for the book store we need us a recipe book for breads

 :heeheehee:

LOL....Don't buy the book until you tested out your cooking skills.  Plenty of Bread Recipes online.  Taste of Home (https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/basic-homemade-bread) has some as well as Breadworld (http://www.breadworld.com/recipes/Beginners-White-Bread).
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 04, 2018, 10:44:59 AM
usually can find basic bread recipe on a bag of  flour too and be sure to use all purpose  flower  Not Self Rising
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 04, 2018, 10:51:16 AM
Yup...that's very true Fafnir.  I think he justed wanted to get out for a bit....and buying a book is in his blood...no matter what the book is.  His formula is....   Day Off = Buy Book.......
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 04, 2018, 10:58:58 AM
And you have Breads (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?board=317.0) in the Kitchen of the Attic.
But maybe in a book and the variety of breads J will find the one which will be pleasant for him and the nurse. A seed poppy bread for her maybe? :psycho:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 04, 2018, 11:02:44 AM
Good Morning Sir Knight.....

We are just Frozen here in WI.  No snow lately...too darn cold to snow LOL.  Our high today.... 5 Degrees....  Tonight.... -13 degrees.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 04, 2018, 12:31:47 PM
Good Morning this afternoon, again.  It is currently 47°F, wind is calm, 24% humidity, sky is clear and SUNNY!  It is a bee-yoo-tee-FUL DAY today!   And mostly the same predicted through Monday here.   Gosh could I sound any more glib to all you in the grips of storms right now?   Was hoping I could cheer you up!    :thumb_up: :smile:

I hear y'all on J getting a day off, and running straight to the book store.  If I had a book store, I'd spend lots of time browsing there too.   We had a Hastings.  Its all closed down now.  :cry2:

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 04, 2018, 01:06:58 PM
Well I made it home!! So got to work this morning at 6 am, only flurries while driving there. Then by 7 am it was coming down.. And then all hell breaks lose  :tearlaugh: ......I left work(parking lot) at 12:21 pm and got home at 1 pm, a 10 minute drive  :driver:  took me that long...No roads are clean anywhere...On my driving, saw a power line on fire. get to my town, traffic lights are off, stores, restaurants, businesses, all pitch black.....but we have power(power supply comes from another town for some of us)....It is crazy out there and windy
 :shiv:


P.S.
Oh yeah this is in New York an hour away from New York City, which I hear is really bad...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 04, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
bread is easy to make cooking  however can be  rather interesting  unless you know how your oven bakes
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 04, 2018, 01:21:23 PM
Hey TI!  Glad you got home ok, and are warm now!   Whew, it is a mess out there!

Yaknow, it wasn't that long ago I wondered why in the world whole areas had "Snow Days".  All that fuss for a little bit of white stuff on the ground.   Well, having experienced a bit of that "white stuff" now,  I get the picture!   LOL!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 01:49:53 PM
Well I made it home!! So got to work this morning at 6 am, only flurries while driving there. Then by 7 am it was coming down.. And then all hell breaks lose  :tearlaugh: ......I left work(parking lot) at 12:21 pm and got home at 1 pm, a 10 minute drive  :driver:  took me that long...No roads are clean anywhere...On my driving, saw a power line on fire. get to my town, traffic lights are off, stores, restaurants, businesses, all pitch black.....but we have power(power supply comes from another town for some of us)....It is crazy out there and windy
 :shiv:


P.S.
Oh yeah this is in New York an hour away from New York City, which I hear is really bad...

Glad you got home alright Sandra! I hope you don't have to go out again in that stuff. Not soon, anyway. Sounds bad with lines down and power out. You guys stay warm and stay put :hug2:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 01:55:11 PM
Hey TI!  Glad you got home ok, and are warm now!   Whew, it is a mess out there!

Yaknow, it wasn't that long ago I wondered why in the world whole areas had "Snow Days".  All that fuss for a little bit of white stuff on the ground.   Well, having experienced a bit of that "white stuff" now,  I get the picture!   LOL!

It pretty much has to be a blizzard moving in for us to get a snow day here, or some unusual sort of winter storm.

I used to laugh at people down south getting snow days for an inch of snow...until I was in Kentucky once and it snowed about an inch. And I tried driving/walking on it. Hahahahahahahahahaha - like a skating rink. Boy did I find out, it's totally different down there than it is up here. So, I don't make fun of them any more.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 04, 2018, 02:04:00 PM
It is GREAT that whatever measures you guys all take for malware avoidance is working!   As J and I have learned,  no matter how it might get through, NOT allowing it to operate is crucial.   Warf!  Shields UP!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 04, 2018, 02:10:14 PM
Ray, that is what I got stuck with and on right near Dallas, Tx some years back.  It was 'snow days' for the schools and some businesses.   But what we got there was 'black ice' on all the roads.  An ice storm.  Unless you had studded tires (nix!  not down here!) or chains (we got them nasty critters) you didn't go anywhere but the ditches. Or trees, or mailbox, or big rocks.  Stopping stuff.  But no place useful.  Like you discovered in Kentucky!  LOL! 

The first BIG snowfall I saw in my life was on Governors Island, NY, NY in '72.   They got a more or less late snowfall of two feet in one night.  Not a lot of wind, just lots of thick big flake snow.   It covered the base up.  If you didn't know what you were walking on and where, you could step off the edge of something into a 20' drift that looked like level ground.  Not a pleasant thought.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 04, 2018, 02:19:12 PM
Well I made it home!! So got to work this morning at 6 am, only flurries while driving there. Then by 7 am it was coming down.. And then all hell breaks lose  :tearlaugh: ......I left work(parking lot) at 12:21 pm and got home at 1 pm, a 10 minute drive  :driver:  took me that long...No roads are clean anywhere...On my driving, saw a power line on fire. get to my town, traffic lights are off, stores, restaurants, businesses, all pitch black.....but we have power(power supply comes from another town for some of us)....It is crazy out there and windy
 :shiv:


P.S.
Oh yeah this is in New York an hour away from New York City, which I hear is really bad...

Wow, you're brave.   Sorry it was such a rough trip.  But glad that you have power.

Got a call from my institution at 6, saying they were delaying the opening and another at  8:45, saying closed.  I was most thankful for that.  They don't always decide to do it this way.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 04, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
Glad you  made it home safe and sound TI now stay  warm  glad you got power too
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
Yup...that's very true Fafnir.  I think he justed wanted to get out for a bit....and buying a book is in his blood...no matter what the book is.  His formula is....   Day Off = Buy Book.......

That would be plural good sir

2594 :luvbooks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 04, 2018, 03:02:43 PM
6 more to go J
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 03:05:24 PM
bread is easy to make cooking  however can be  rather interesting  unless you know how your oven bakes

Well, just finished the first loaf and it be cooling now so we shall see what ye ole stove does and what mods I may or may not have to make,

... yee haw it came out just right ... now to peruse those other sites for ideas to add to the ones in the book I bought
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 03:07:35 PM
6 more to go J

I know the problem is waiting on the new volumes to hit the store
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 04, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
Well I made it home!! So got to work this morning at 6 am, only flurries while driving there. Then by 7 am it was coming down.. And then all hell breaks lose  :tearlaugh: ......I left work(parking lot) at 12:21 pm and got home at 1 pm, a 10 minute drive  :driver:  took me that long...No roads are clean anywhere...On my driving, saw a power line on fire. get to my town, traffic lights are off, stores, restaurants, businesses, all pitch black.....but we have power(power supply comes from another town for some of us)....It is crazy out there and windy
 :shiv:


P.S.
Oh yeah this is in New York an hour away from New York City, which I hear is really bad...

I saw where they had 87 MPH wind gusts in Charlestown RI.  My Brother said Newport is getting 50-60 MPH wind gusts...and they got about a foot of snow so far....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 04, 2018, 03:44:46 PM
Thank you guys. I am glad to be home and warm...Tomorrow all over again at 6 am to work(1st job) but let's see how it looks cause if its still bad(no clean roads and I'm sure iced) I don't think I'm going in....I have a CRV AWD so I learned to drive on the snow but it's still some scary $h!t, especially going down road hills....Oh I remember when we lived in the city I used to say the same thing, snow days, why? until we moved up here 15 years ago  :yeow: .... Like you Ray, I don't question it anymore, lol... Some places pay you snow days, like the library I work, so I will get paid today for not working!!! Same with schools here, staff get paid for snow days and if they don't use them they lose them...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 03:54:41 PM

I saw where they had 87 MPH wind gusts in Charlestown RI.  My Brother said Newport is getting 50-60 MPH wind gusts...and they got about a foot of snow so far....



That's terrible. I'm glad your brother's there with your Mom, TL. Dang!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 04, 2018, 03:57:29 PM
Thank you guys. I am glad to be home and warm...Tomorrow all over again at 6 am to work(1st job) but let's see how it looks cause if its still bad(no clean roads and I'm sure iced) I don't think I'm going in....I have a CRV AWD so I learned to drive on the snow but it's still some scary $h!t, especially going down road hills....Oh I remember when we lived in the city I used to say the same thing, snow days, why? until we moved up here 15 years ago  :yeow: .... Like you Ray, I don't question it anymore, lol... Some places pay you snow days, like the library I work, so I will get paid today for not working!!! Same with schools here, staff get paid for snow days and if they don't use them they lose them...

I'd use it - you bet. Anything but go out in that stuff!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 04, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
good going on the  bread baking J
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 04, 2018, 04:28:47 PM
glad your Mom has  someone  there with her hope the weather  don't get no worse over on the coast
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 05:04:37 PM
good going on the  bread baking J

Thanks
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 04, 2018, 05:23:46 PM
your welcome  now enjoy
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 04, 2018, 05:26:40 PM
Have all an excellent end of day!
I hope the US coast will be ok with all that wind and snow :panic:  Take care of you guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 06:06:43 PM
I hope all will be safe and warm as well, it looks like it will get down to 32° with a brisk 11 mph wind for the evening.

Tomorrow is not going to be to bad a high (maybe of 54°), we never hit our high today so not holding my breath on that prediction. Tomorrows low is better as in it gets up to 36° overnight :thud: Still going to have a bit of wind all day supposedly.

So we have mild weather compared to the hell the rest of the coast and Northern parts will be going through.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 04, 2018, 06:54:28 PM
I've been anxiously awaiting the arrival of the new Project Evolution figure.  It has just launched at CGBytes.  From what I can see from the description, it's got very good expressive ability as will as posability.

Mentioning it in the Coffee Shop is probably not the right place within the Attic, but I'm not sure where or if to do so.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 04, 2018, 07:01:48 PM
Here is good for the first announcement afterwards we can get it in one of the Character threads that Aelin manages.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 04, 2018, 09:44:29 PM
What IS Project Evolution and who made it?   If DAZ, then I don't wanna know.

WHOA!  Never mind, I found it.  It is FOR Poser 11 and IN Poser 11.   And it uses the animation palette according to the demo reel I found.

Thanks for mentioning it Sir Knight, I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 04:17:51 AM
Oh wow, I am seeing that this is a brand new release!   Project EVOLUTION is simply a new Figure for Poser.  And from the looks of it, will be an excellent one.   Conforming clothing?  Not yet.  THAT will take vendors climbing on the wagon.  Meanwhile, it comes with some basic items.  There is a free demo version, and a complete $30 version.   Being as it's now 4:o16 am and I just finished reading that thread, I'm going to bed, will play when I get up!
zzz  zzz   zzz    zzzz
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 05:32:03 AM
What IS Project Evolution and who made it?   If DAZ, then I don't wanna know.

WHOA!  Never mind, I found it.  It is FOR Poser 11 and IN Poser 11.   And it uses the animation palette according to the demo reel I found.

Thanks for mentioning it Sir Knight, I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.


On CGBytes, it says she's usable in Poser 10 and Poser 11.

https://www.cgbytes.com/store/sku/58317_Project-Evolution-DEMO. I can't really find anything definitive at the moment though. Erogenesis also apparently made some applications to be able to fit Vicky 4 hair and clothes on her too - in the Fitting Room perhaps?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 06:06:42 AM
The fitting is done with something he calls a mannequin.   The V4 injection to produce the mannequin is in the dev kit., I think.  One uses the mannequin to fit the V4 clothing, then take it to the fitting room.

Got to go to work so I can't play until tonight.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 05, 2018, 06:42:03 AM

the hectic days are over thank god  :ny-fathertime:
but will admit I missed a few threads lol .......reading on tablet is ok but posting is a pita
[and its so old an slow  :shrug: ]


seen this weather bomb on tv ...........looks scary ...y'all take care !! skating on thin ice is fun at 18 :tearlaugh: but the fun decreases with every passing year  :puah:


J can still use bread machine for the grunt work ........shove all the junk in set it off, go for a bath /shopping woteva
take dough out and make your dinner roll or baguette, my fav is
http://www.inspiredtaste.net/19313/easy-focaccia-bread-recipe-with-herbs/
but I add olives and anchovies too .............mmmmmmmmmmmmmm tasty


gonna be a great new year
https://youtu.be/BV1eKphHFjY
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 07:07:45 AM
I've been anxiously awaiting the arrival of the new Project Evolution figure.  It has just launched at CGBytes.  From what I can see from the description, it's got very good expressive ability as will as posability.

Mentioning it in the Coffee Shop is probably not the right place within the Attic, but I'm not sure where or if to do so.

Here is good for the first announcement afterwards we can get it in one of the Character threads that Aelin manages.
I know we have already few Project humans things by Sixus1, more characters to talk is always something welcome, to keep diversity in the 3d :yes:
The lady seems to have a lot of points on face like Pauline (Poser 11) has also.

Good morning guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 07:56:49 AM
A first short topic for Project Evolution is on forum now.
http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?topic=17878.0
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 08:02:12 AM
So, I've found I'm too sick to go to work, but will have to remotely attend at least one meeting.

Although Erogenesis used "Project" ahead of his figure's name, it's a completely new figure, modeled in all quads and done in a way that allows the textures not to stretch when the figure is posed in bends.

Anyway, if you look at the smiles in the promos, you'll see how much can be done with her face.  Those dots allow one to do things like move the eyes together (the one on the bridge of the nose) or tweak up just one corner of her mouth.  They don't render in Firefly -- one doesn't have to do anything to make the invisible.  It is necessary in Superfly.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 08:09:49 AM
Maybe for the Poser 11 version, but I read PE has a Poser 10 version too. Normally for that she can't be rendered in Superfly.

Take care of you. It's not the time to be cold when it's cold outside.
BTW, I saw a map on Yahoo, you have all the cold of hemisphere :panic:
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Usgu5oWKssJiHsu6YDAh6g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/fr-FR/homerun/sciencesetavenir.fr/c6dc18086b0c9b8ff2b5811253c0f8e0)
I heard in Alsace (East of France) they have today 15°C (59°F).
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 08:21:35 AM
Maybe for the Poser 11 version, but I read PE has a Poser 10 version too. Normally for that she can't be rendered in Superfly.

I wasn't clear.  I'm going to start calling it "PE" rather than "the figure" or "Project Evolution".  PE prefers Firefly.  Ero has said in the Smith Micro forums that the Superfly material need some work.  He developed it in P10.

You (Aelin) said that it is only a demo version in the new PE thread.  It's also available in an Early Edition that is suitable for rendering, particularly in Firefly.  That one has at least 13 characters as well as the base.  It also has some clothes.  I don't want to set the tone of the thread by starting with a contradiction.

Take care of you. It's not the time to be cold when it's cold outside.
BTW, I saw a map on Yahoo, you have all the cold of hemisphere :panic:
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Usgu5oWKssJiHsu6YDAh6g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/fr-FR/homerun/sciencesetavenir.fr/c6dc18086b0c9b8ff2b5811253c0f8e0)
I heard in Alsace (East of France) they have today 15°C (59°F).

Thanks!  Presently 9 °F.  Wind at least 20 mph, gusts to 30.  I'm taking care of me -- lots and lots and lots of, um, liquids.  Presently  :java: .
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 08:31:57 AM

J can still use bread machine for the grunt work ........shove all the junk in set it off, go for a bath /shopping woteva
take dough out and make your dinner roll or baguette, my fav is
http://www.inspiredtaste.net/19313/easy-focaccia-bread-recipe-with-herbs/ (http://www.inspiredtaste.net/19313/easy-focaccia-bread-recipe-with-herbs/)
but I add olives and anchovies too .............mmmmmmmmmmmmmm tasty


gonna be a great new year
https://youtu.be/BV1eKphHFjY (https://youtu.be/BV1eKphHFjY)

Might need to check that out on the bread machine, if it can do the prep work without going to the baking stage that would be cool and a time saver, well at least clean up would be simplified.

As to the dance mix ... all I can say is that "dancing is a vertical expression of the horizontal" :pervy:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 08:33:12 AM
You can add the contradiction in the topic if you want. It's just the non demo PE isn't free, and the topic is in the free area of forum - the reason for why I didn't developed more.
Yet, Erogenesis leaves on the page of PE enough information to see the non demo PE.

Yes :java: is better than (http://mumuland.m.u.pic.centerblog.net/a8hil50k.gif)
:psycho:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 08:33:14 AM
Oh by the way thanks for the bread recipe, no problem with the add of olives not certain about the anchovy part though :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 08:34:53 AM
Oh by the way thanks for the bread recipe, no problem with the add of olives not certain about the anchovy part though :iminnocent:
On that way, it's no more completely a bread but a "fougasse" like in South of France.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 08:37:36 AM
I bow to your update, we definitely are not up on the correct names of the many variations.


Updated:



The cool part is that yes the bread machine will do dough only with no baking so this has promise, since as mentioned the last two times came out less then ....


Yesterdays loaf came out grand and that was completely by hand but since the machine can pummel the dough into submission :dominatrix: there is still a reason to hang onto it.


:yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 08:41:01 AM
You can add the contradiction in the topic if you want. It's just the non demo PE isn't free, and the topic is in the free area of forum - the reason for why I didn't developed more.

I see.  I think I'll just leave it until I have some renders to post.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 08:44:09 AM
I bow to your update, we definitely are not up on the correct names of the many variations

What I can tell you it's the fougasse is delicious, and with a lot of variations now, but often olives. At the end of the oven, where you have stuff like cheese (if you decide to put that), the fougasse stays smooth and indeed that part can seem like a part of bread - but a hard bread for the rest of meal.

I put inside cut olives (often black, but green are good too), shallot, gruyère.
But before to be vegan, I added gib also.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 08:44:56 AM
I see.  I think I'll just leave it until I have some renders to post.
Ok :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 09:02:14 AM
What I can tell you it's the fougasse is delicious, and with a lot of variations now, but often olives. At the end of the oven, where you have stuff like cheese (if you decide to put that), the fougasse stays smooth and indeed that part can seem like a part of bread - but a hard bread for the rest of meal.

I put inside cut olives (often black, but green are good too), shallot, gruyère.
But before to be vegan, I added gib also.

I am almost afraid to ask ... what is "gib"?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
Good Morning to all.   

First off....hope you get to feeling better Sir Knight.....and thanks for the update info on PE.....

"J"   Big chill time in your area.  But then again....I'm sitting here with it being  -8 out right now LOL....

Good Morning to you Aelin.....and HH (Good to see you back on) and cool vid...and McG though it looks like you went back to bed....

And I see PDG and Neimrok out and about also....Good Morning.

Coffee is on for all :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 09:13:59 AM
And a Good Morning to you Ray....How are you feeling this morning?   Did you get plenty of rest?

Yes, I'm Glad Jimmy went to Mom's.  The good news is their power stayed on....and no pipes froze....

The Bad news is Jimmy can't get out of Newport yet.  Bridges are closed until winds calm down and the blowing snow settles in.  Only way on and off Newport is via Bridges or the Ferry...and the Ferry is not running either....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 09:19:55 AM
I am almost afraid to ask ... what is "gib"?
That is the translation given by google translate. Now in the other direction I understand why you ask :OMG:
In French they are "lardons", parts of pig.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 09:28:21 AM
Bacon.....?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 09:29:22 AM
Morning Chiron.....didn't see you sneak in.....  Coffee is on :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 09:30:53 AM
Bacon.....?
I always saw (in movies and series) bacon like something roasted, but I don't know more the bacon.
Lardons are with "fat" parts in more than meat. I don't know, maybe it can be named 'another bacon'.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 09:36:40 AM
I think we'll have more fun letting "J" figure it out  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 09:37:06 AM
Aelin, does this page have what you are talking about?

http://cuisine.journaldesfemmes.com/recette/310352-frisee-aux-lardons-et-aux-noix (http://cuisine.journaldesfemmes.com/recette/310352-frisee-aux-lardons-et-aux-noix)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 09:39:38 AM
I think we'll have more fun letting "J" figure it out  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Too late, Sir Knight has found a recipe in French with the "thing".  :tearlaugh:

Aelin, does this page have what you are talking about?

http://cuisine.journaldesfemmes.com/recette/310352-frisee-aux-lardons-et-aux-noix (http://cuisine.journaldesfemmes.com/recette/310352-frisee-aux-lardons-et-aux-noix)
Yes, lardons are those stuff.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 09:42:01 AM
Translated the second page:

Bacon: the best generous and tasty recipes
Size does not matter. Bacon has understood this well by inviting everywhere in our recipes of cakes, mountain dishes, pasta, quiches and salads. All mini, it embellishes the recipes of a little salty touch which only he has the secret. Find on this page recipes ideas with bacon to make a mouthful.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 09:42:56 AM
WOW...See what happens when THREE GREAT MINDS work on a project.....  SOLVED....... :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 09:51:10 AM
And, Wikipedia is our friend:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lardon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lardon)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 09:52:06 AM
So, I've found I'm too sick to go to work, but will have to remotely attend at least one meeting.

Although Erogenesis used "Project" ahead of his figure's name, it's a completely new figure, modeled in all quads and done in a way that allows the textures not to stretch when the figure is posed in bends.

Anyway, if you look at the smiles in the promos, you'll see how much can be done with her face.  Those dots allow one to do things like move the eyes together (the one on the bridge of the nose) or tweak up just one corner of her mouth.  They don't render in Firefly -- one doesn't have to do anything to make the invisible.  It is necessary in Superfly.


I presume you have this vile flu, Sir. Just be careful if you're feeling rather wooly headed on any statements you may make as it tends to screw with your head/thinking processes after a point. Lol. Speak in small sentences. It's best you stayed home today anyway with your weather there. You don't need to go out in that stuff and get sicker...because you'll feel much worse soon. I guarantee it. Sorry but it's just the truth. Take care and take it easy my friend.

After looking at her and the skins he's made for her, I'm totally impressed. Her mesh is beautiful - what I could see of it in the images. Very morphable and posable.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 05, 2018, 09:55:20 AM
BTW, I saw a map on Yahoo, you have all the cold of hemisphere :panic:
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Usgu5oWKssJiHsu6YDAh6g--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/fr-FR/homerun/sciencesetavenir.fr/c6dc18086b0c9b8ff2b5811253c0f8e0)
I heard in Alsace (East of France) they have today 15°C (59°F).

... and if I don't read it wrong in Siberia they are enjoying a nice spring... o tempora, o mores!

Aelin, Doc: the fougasse is not unknown here either (Fladenbrot). If you're lucky you can run into a version of it with olives and onion - try and make it, it's scrumptious! (mmmh, don't forget to add a spoonful of olive oil in the dough)

Sir Knight
, you're nor supposed to play such a silly trick on us! There's already Sidherose with something funny going on under the hood and my throat feeling like sandpaper since a couple of days... however don't listen to bad advice and keep in mind that CH3CH2OH is still an excellent disinfectant :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 10:01:38 AM
... and if I don't read it wrong in Siberia they are enjoying a nice spring... o tempora, o mores!

Aelin, Doc: the fougasse is not unknown here either (Fladenbrot). If you're lucky you can run into a version of it with olives and onion - try and make it, it's scrumptious! (mmmh, don't forget to add a spoonful of olive oil in the dough)

Sir Knight
, you're nor supposed to play such a silly trick on us! There's already Sidherose with something funny going on under the hood and my throat feeling like sandpaper since a couple of days... however don't listen to bad advice and keep in mind that CH3CH2OH is still an excellent disinfectant :tearlaugh:
Yeah on olive oil  :Hi5:
Don't tempt me with onions :choco:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 10:05:45 AM
And a Good Morning to you Ray....How are you feeling this morning?   Did you get plenty of rest?

Yes, I'm Glad Jimmy went to Mom's.  The good news is their power stayed on....and no pipes froze....

The Bad news is Jimmy can't get out of Newport yet.  Bridges are closed until winds calm down and the blowing snow settles in.  Only way on and off Newport is via Bridges or the Ferry...and the Ferry is not running either....


Mostly that's all I'm doing is sleeping, because I feel so hideous most of the time it's just better to sleep and hope I feel better when I wake up. What's bad though is I'm thinking/dreaming about all the rendering I need to do or want to do. But then when I get up and come in here to sit I don't want to render. I just want to go back to sleep.

I saw where they were getting beached sharks on the coast there - their gills frozen shut!! Yikes!! What a horrible way to go :sad:

Well, I guess Jimmy will get off Newport when he does won't he? I'm sure your Mom doesn't mind him being there. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 10:14:02 AM
And, Wikipedia is our friend:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lardon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lardon)


Mmmm, the Fougasse de Foix looks rather good - if I ignore the fact I'm sick. To do with a fox or to do with a fougasse special in the House de Foix??
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 10:15:05 AM
Okay, I gotta finish getting ready to go to the doctor and my ride's on the way, so see you later friends!

Stay warm.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 05, 2018, 10:35:55 AM
Okay, I gotta finish getting ready to go to the doctor and my ride's on the way, so see you later friends!

Stay warm.
May your doctor be a smart and understanding one, Ray! They've become so rare today... :sad:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 10:54:04 AM
Yeah on olive oil  :Hi5:
Don't tempt me with onions :choco:

Indeed onions, green onions and other items of a similar nature are always and I do mean always available in my kitchen
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 11:00:30 AM
Too late, Sir Knight has found a recipe in French with the "thing".  :tearlaugh:
Yes, lardons are those stuff.

Well, that adds in another recipe to my collection :heeheehee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 05, 2018, 11:16:49 AM
should have  said  sow belly  or  fatback in the first place  least is  what  we call the  stuff  but then I learned  a new  name  for  it  lardons
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 05, 2018, 11:18:13 AM
Lardons also used in cornbread  and  many other  southern  dishes as  well
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 11:19:25 AM
What can one say about "languages" so many different ways of saying the same thing :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 05, 2018, 11:22:23 AM
that is  for  sure  and the French have very nice ways of  saying  things
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 11:28:04 AM
Okay, I gotta finish getting ready to go to the doctor and my ride's on the way, so see you later friends!

Stay warm.

Hope they figure out what is what Ray.....Hugs...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 11:39:15 AM
Good Morning to all.   

"J"   Big chill time in your area.  But then again....I'm sitting here with it being  -8 out right now LOL....


Indeed methinks it is going to stay a "tit bit nipply" all day, here it is past noon and it has only now finally made it to 46°
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 05, 2018, 12:04:17 PM
Speaking of privacy...

I was digging in my hard drives for something else (that I obviously couldn't find), and quite unexpectedly run into this long since forgotten link.
You ask me, it's a remarkable piece of humorous art even if it originates from a very serious official source, the Austrian Post.
The original was spoken in a grotesquely US-accented German that added a further irresistible touch of mirth nearly impossible to translate. If you can cope with that then wait for the second installment, it's definitely worth it  :(ROFLMAO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCaw7jXkrZw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCaw7jXkrZw)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 12:10:33 PM
LOLOL.....Now that was pretty darn good......Thanks for the Chuckle Chiron.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 05, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
10:16 am Pacific Time.


Good Morning,


Hope everything is going well.


Looks like we are hitting a heat wave out here it is presently 55 degrees F and will have a high of 64 degrees. 


Just remembering my Dad, he would have been 100 years old today if he was alive.  My Mom turned 92 last month. 





Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 12:37:04 PM
Good Morning to you M-C

Sometime next week we are supposed to get above freezing by a couple of degrees...but that brings us some snow....which really isn't to bad since our snow falls are not up to par this year.  The Farmers want MORE snow...which is understandable.

My Mother turned 87 this year....  She tells all she's 88 and sometimes she'll say 89....and we don't correct her.  She can be any age she wants as long as she's aging....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 12:38:17 PM
Well, got to get ready to take Lorna to work....and then get a newsletter done today when I get back....so take care folks....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 12:54:17 PM
We be back at home improvement rubbish today now that we have the bread topic figured out, the vacuum repaired, knew there was a reason it wasn't picking anything up :thud:

The cleaning of the rubbish film that was on the windows is coming off ever so easily now, just kept spraying it down over the last week daily and it is scrapping off like butter. There was no reason to get excited about not being done in a day (I live alone and the schedule here  is ... eventually)  .... it is now, just a few final tweaks and polish and then we can put new film and mini blinds up. :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 01:57:23 PM
I bow to your update, we definitely are not up on the correct names of the many variations.


Updated:



The cool part is that yes the bread machine will do dough only with no baking so this has promise, since as mentioned the last two times came out less then ....


Yesterdays loaf came out grand and that was completely by hand but since the machine can pummel the dough into submission :dominatrix: there is still a reason to hang onto it.


 :yippee:

Oh so it beats the heck out of a Microwave Oven huh?    Heh!   :smile: :winks: :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 02:02:03 PM
Oh so it beats the heck out of a Microwave Oven huh?    Heh!   :smile: :winks: :yippee:

Yes indeed no radiation, electrical energy converted to heat
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:07:02 PM
Good Morning to all.   

First off....hope you get to feeling better Sir Knight.....and thanks for the update info on PE.....

"J"   Big chill time in your area.  But then again....I'm sitting here with it being  -8 out right now LOL....

Good Morning to you Aelin.....and HH (Good to see you back on) and cool vid...and McG though it looks like you went back to bed....

And I see PDG and Neimrok out and about also....Good Morning.

Coffee is on for all :java:


Yep I did go back to bed.  Just got up about 12:50, almost 1pm.  By the time I washed up, did the meds my breakfast was ready, with HOT fresh COFFEE  (aaahhhhh!  good!) and a tumbler of ice water.   I dehydrate so easy since the chemos and op.  I have to make sure to rehydrate OR things happen like yesterday.   I finally get plenty of H2O, a final cuppa coffee, and I "crash", ache all over, real tired.  Aftermath of dehydration.  Serious thing.   About 4 pm I hit the hay.
 :OMFG: So I am paying close attention to the amount out and IN.   :OMFG:   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:13:49 PM
Yes indeed no radiation, electrical energy converted to heat

BS man!  Microwave is simply RF energy contained INSIDE the metal box of the oven.  The steel mesh in the window stops the MW energy from leaking out.   The water molecules are suitably agitated, which is what releases heat.  Correct measurement of the time and reheating leftovers, warming up plastic tray TV dinners (even from frozen!), cooking items designed for MW like Totino's Mini Pizza Rolls is perfect!   YES I eat those lovely little things!  And I LIKE them!  Plus I am always heating up my COFFEE water and rewarming cool cups of coffee.  THERE!   Great and positive uses for a MICROWAVE OVEN!    :yippee:

 :shock: :dancingknight: :explode: :grenade: :crazysmile: :reluctant: :winks: :sidetoside: :smile: :dk2: :tearlaugh: :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:21:54 PM
I always saw (in movies and series) bacon like something roasted, but I don't know more the bacon.
Lardons are with "fat" parts in more than meat. I don't know, maybe it can be named 'another bacon'.

BACON, normally sliced for frying up in the skillet.  Has lots of fat, yes.   WHEN its fried, most of the fat cooks out, leaving the brown meat part mostly.  There is still some fat though, else its burnt up!   BACON is the best flavor from the whole hog or pig to you.  Farm trading starts off every single morning for over 70 years with announcement of the prices of "Pork Bellies".  OR, what is sliced up to make *BACON* !!!!   I LOVE the taste of the cooked pork fat as from BACON and Pork Chops.   They can keep the rest of the hog though.  I don't care for HAM much.   

I do wonder where our use of hogs (swine?) as food animals came from.   These are intelligent and very social animals.   So it's kinda sad that we like the tastes of their meat, and FAT, so much.   Perhaps an outright shame.   BUT, BACON is so gooooooood!   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:25:14 PM
Aelin, does this page have what you are talking about?

http://cuisine.journaldesfemmes.com/recette/310352-frisee-aux-lardons-et-aux-noix (http://cuisine.journaldesfemmes.com/recette/310352-frisee-aux-lardons-et-aux-noix)

That looks SO GOOD Sir Knight!  Bacon bits, walnuts, lettuce, big scoop of cream cheese, ooooh!    :tearlaugh: :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 05, 2018, 02:31:15 PM

lol I was thinking gib maybe chicken livers  (giblets)
glad to know its just lardons


but why does no one like anchovies ??? they (the tinned ones never seen fresh in UK)
just melt into whatever you put them in and add a wonderful salty mmmmmmmmmmmm
I put them in ragus and stews

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 02:31:58 PM
BS man!  Microwave is simply RF energy contained INSIDE the metal box of the oven.  The steel mesh in the window stops the MW energy from leaking out.   The water molecules are suitably agitated, which is what releases heat.  Correct measurement of the time and reheating leftovers, warming up plastic tray TV dinners (even from frozen!), cooking items designed for MW like Totino's Mini Pizza Rolls is perfect!   YES I eat those lovely little things!  And I LIKE them!  Plus I am always heating up my COFFEE water and rewarming cool cups of coffee.  THERE!   Great and positive uses for a MICROWAVE OVEN!    :yippee:

 :shock: :dancingknight: :explode: :grenade: :crazysmile: :reluctant: :winks: :sidetoside: :smile: :dk2: :tearlaugh: :ny-fathertime:

And that is precisely why I dislike it  "RF energy" used to "excite" the molecules of whatever you are heating
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:34:02 PM
Yeah on olive oil  :Hi5:
Don't tempt me with onions :choco:

Oh Aelin, you need to try a TRUE Philadelphia cheese steak sub!   Sliced roast beef, lots of long thin strings of grilled sizzled onions and Philly Cream Cheese melted into the whole sandwich.   All put in a sliced LONG bun (hoagie roll) and served up freshly grilled!   I have had them at the original Joes Grill where the Philly cheese steak sub was invented.  For years its all he made.  The big flat top restaurant grill filled up with cooking meats, onions, browning bread rolls and two people feeding the grill and wrapping up subs.  They are outstanding!  And slathered thick with beef and string onions, and CHEESE!   Oh they are SOOoooo good!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 02:34:54 PM
lol I was thinking gib maybe chicken livers  (giblets)
glad to know its just lardons


but why does no one like anchovies ??? they (the tinned ones never seen fresh in UK)
just melt into whatever you put them in and add a wonderful salty mmmmmmmmmmmm
I put them in ragus and stews



Never said I disliked them, just am reluctant since I have never tried them as an adult.

Mother used to love them and I am certain I probably tried one then but as a child I am certain my tastes were not shall we say as refined as they are now and it didn't work for me back then and just have never gotten around to trying them.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:37:47 PM
Okay, I gotta finish getting ready to go to the doctor and my ride's on the way, so see you later friends!

Stay warm.

Be well Rayvn!   :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 02:38:41 PM
Oh Aelin, you need to try a TRUE Philadelphia cheese steak sub!   Sliced roast beef, lots of long thin strings of grilled sizzled onions and Philly Cream Cheese melted into the whole sandwich.   All put in a sliced LONG bun (hoagie roll) and served up freshly grilled!   I have had them at the original Joes Grill where the Philly cheese steak sub was invented.  For years its all he made.  The big flat top restaurant grill filled up with cooking meats, onions, browning bread rolls and two people feeding the grill and wrapping up subs.  They are outstanding!  And slathered thick with beef and string onions, and CHEESE!   Oh they are SOOoooo good!
Nope no meat since 10 years in this beginning of 2018  :yippee: :happydance:
Onions I can without problem, like vegetarian pizzas, or onion soup for the 2 best examples. Yummy!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:43:19 PM
Speaking of privacy...

I was digging in my hard drives for something else (that I obviously couldn't find), and quite unexpectedly run into this long since forgotten link.
You ask me, it's a remarkable piece of humorous art even if it originates from a very serious official source, the Austrian Post.
The original was spoken in a grotesquely US-accented German that added a further irresistible touch of mirth nearly impossible to translate. If you can cope with that then wait for the second installment, it's definitely worth it  :(ROFLMAO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCaw7jXkrZw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCaw7jXkrZw)

Ha ha ha ha ha!  Oops!  You sure they ain't Russian?!?!!  or, CHINESE?  OR N.Korean!!!!!   GAAAHHH!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 02:45:07 PM
lol I was thinking gib maybe chicken livers  (giblets)
glad to know its just lardons

Larousse has that other meaning, but it's way down in the list:

http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/lardon/46275 (http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/lardon/46275)

but why does no one like anchovies ??? they (the tinned ones never seen fresh in UK)
just melt into whatever you put them in and add a wonderful salty mmmmmmmmmmmm
I put them in ragus and stews

I like anchovies!  The classic problem is that people have only had them on pizzas.  If that much concentrated salt or the texture has put them off, they never try them in other food.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:45:40 PM
10:16 am Pacific Time.


Good Morning,


Hope everything is going well.


Looks like we are hitting a heat wave out here it is presently 55 degrees F and will have a high of 64 degrees. 


Just remembering my Dad, he would have been 100 years old today if he was alive.  My Mom turned 92 last month.

WOW.   belated Happy Birthday to your Mom!   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 02:49:04 PM
Nope no meat since 10 years in this beginning of 2018  :yippee: :happydance:
Onions I can without problem, like vegetarian pizzas, or onion soup for the 2 best examples. Yummy!

I love onion soups!  Even the boxed kind are excellent when properly watered and cooked.  Mmmm!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 04:05:56 PM
May your doctor be a smart and understanding one, Ray! They've become so rare today... :sad:

She is pretty cool actually, and better than a lot of doctors I've had about figuring stuff out.

Had to take a nap when I got home. Then eat....pffffffttttttttttt, what I can eat now. Everything bland, no dairy, no coffee, no spicy. Nothing 'complicated'.  For apparently, the December round of the flu blew out my good stomach bacteria and replaced it with yech, or something like that. I have to take 'Probiotics' - that is Acidopholous - to replace it. I was about 167 and now weigh 157.  She's worried about my weight loss. Yup.

That's all I know.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 05, 2018, 04:13:25 PM
Oh NOOO!  No COFFEE!!!!   Oh the PAIN of it all!   :shiv3: :explode:

An unexpected diagnoses yeah?   But a great solution.   And plenty of water too right?

I had my round  of "bug" from mid November through Christmas.  I kept dehydrating too. I started using Nature Made Vitamin C 500mg 1 a day, I bought buttermilk and cream cheese, ate with a variety of green veggies and a total of 1.5 gallons of V8 Juice (original).   With that, some cornbread (yeast), and lots of water and sleep, I got over that bug.  My docs at the VA were monitoring me with it and kept emailing me to DRINK MORE WATER!   Ha!  So yeah I now dehydrate so fast it ain't even funny.

I sure hope you kick your bug quick, and get feeling good Ray!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 04:13:40 PM
Weight loss could be worse, but since December sure for average it's a lot by week.

Glad that you are able now to eat, even if it's far away of the delicious food - but when you'll be able to eat like before, you will enjoy!
Take care of you now and astonish your doctor by a fast recovery!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 04:33:31 PM
Oh NOOO!  No COFFEE!!!!   Oh the PAIN of it all!   :shiv3: :explode:

An unexpected diagnoses yeah?   But a great solution.   And plenty of water too right?

I had my round  of "bug" from mid November through Christmas.  I kept dehydrating too. I started using Nature Made Vitamin C 500mg 1 a day, I bought buttermilk and cream cheese, ate with a variety of green veggies and a total of 1.5 gallons of V8 Juice (original).   With that, some cornbread (yeast), and lots of water and sleep, I got over that bug.  My docs at the VA were monitoring me with it and kept emailing me to DRINK MORE WATER!   Ha!  So yeah I now dehydrate so fast it ain't even funny.

I sure hope you kick your bug quick, and get feeling good Ray!

Gug.....just the thought of buttermilk.... :puah: Not to be rude, but please do me a favor when I'm sick and don't tell me what you eat. Seriously. It makes my veins curdle.

Yes, lots of water. I don't have to be reminded because due to other things wrong with me, I'm constantly thirsty. I drink liquids all day long as it is.

I'd like to kick it quick too or rather choke it into oblivion. I'd rather not go on this way much longer or I won't be going on at all. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 04:37:37 PM
Weight loss could be worse, but since December sure for average it's a lot by week.

Glad that you are able now to eat, even if it's far away of the delicious food - but when you'll be able to eat like before, you will enjoy!
Take care of you now and astonish your doctor by a fast recovery!

Eat, not really. It hurts to eat. But you don't want to hear about my stomach. Not really. I'll try.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 05, 2018, 05:24:03 PM
Excellent end of day guys!

And Ray, step by step your stomach will have no choice than obey to you :winks: I just hope it will sooner.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 05, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
Thanks Aelin.

I'm sorry about before ... why I shouldn't come in here when sick. 

No it wasn't exactly an unexpected diagnosis. I've suspected there was something wrong with my stomach. Just didn't know what.

Good night to you and keep warm. Sweet dreams :angelstaff:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 05, 2018, 05:33:43 PM
Indeed when ones own stomach refuses to behave and gives you constant issue and messes with the rest of ones body it is time to open up a can of "whoop ass" on it

:dominatrix:

    and pummel it into submission
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 07:54:18 PM
Excellent end of day guys!

And Ray, step by step your stomach will have no choice than obey to you :winks: I just hope it will sooner.

Have a good night Aelin.  I never did get to the Newsletter...That's got to be a first thing in the morning job after the contest picks.   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 07:58:32 PM
Gug.....just the thought of buttermilk.... :puah: Not to be rude, but please do me a favor when I'm sick and don't tell me what you eat. Seriously. It makes my veins curdle.

Yes, lots of water. I don't have to be reminded because due to other things wrong with me, I'm constantly thirsty. I drink liquids all day long as it is.

I'd like to kick it quick too or rather choke it into oblivion. I'd rather not go on this way much longer or I won't be going on at all. 

Well, you kind of had it figured out before you went to see your Doctor....but glad you went and had her check you over.  And setting you on the right path though some of those things seem just WRONG to me LOL....  You take care....and I found that weight has no problem coming back....   Now get some rest......
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 05, 2018, 08:02:51 PM
Just stopping by for a quick moment.   Had all intentions of getting back in here this afternoon but once I started taking the Christmas Decoration boxes out of the shed.....I was trapped into taking some of them down and tucked away...then got to thinking...why use boxes.  Get some plastic bins that are on sale at Walmart for 3.88 each...and they are big...and they have lids.

So went out and got five to start with...but now I have to unpack what I packed and repack it into the new bin...which is a weekend job...after our contest picks....

Got all my Attic 2018 Folders ready to go....and just finishing up on the 2017 files with the Christmas Contest Results...then I'll check them twice....LOL

In the meantime...have a great night everyone...see you in the morn.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 05, 2018, 09:06:28 PM
Good night, TL.  Sounds like a successful day!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 06:18:26 AM

one day will work out the trick to using quotes
OR get in here more then twice a week  :tearlaugh:


was things I planned on saying before I started comp !! UK has lots of tv shows/ads get in shape/diet/have that slim tummy for hols


been watching a couple .......so drag that that idea of indoor/balcony etc gardens back .......is close to spring lol
guess we all seen them "baby" veggies in supermarket ...seedlings lol
1/2 the size twice the price  :shrug:
but one show I watched tested them in a lab ............broccoli "cress" (seedlings) had 90 times the good stuff then the adult plant
ok some was much higher then others and have to say will be less fibre


in uk as a kid we all had to grow cress/ beans woteva [from tv shows think you lot did same ? ]
so think that windowsill (ledge not sure u call it same ) you grow in 2x3 pots .........all your broccoli for a month in 2 weeks wow
not got a sunny window ............no worries coloured LEDS!!!..give your plants the exact light they like  :perverted: ......yeah a radish likes dif light to a broccoli  :shrug: .........but you can run ur lights off a comp ........let it feed/water tell you when to pick


hush your NOT a god  :puah: yet !! pop a solar panel in nice place and your LEDS run for free


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 06:27:07 AM

was there a dif face gen software once upon a long ago ??
going from this post http://www.relativitybook.com/CoolStuff/facebank.html


I sorta remember one I wanted to buy (an one I couldn't afford) but this don't ring any bells


this hobby has changed more in 10 years then car engines in 100 yrs
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 06:35:36 AM

Ray ............probiotics are good (maybe)  not sure we all need the same ones but !


once had H.pylori and lost 35 lbs (2 an 1/2 stone...why don't your lot use stones ?/) in 6 or 7 weeks
was a week in hossie but was a couple months after a heart attack an they treat me for that lol
then tests came back one pill and I eat like a glutton


one day they have a magic pill for all ills !!!...............and you work FOREVA dude
but hopefully I dead by then  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 06, 2018, 06:42:21 AM
one day will work out the trick to using quotes

Well, we'd love to have you visit more than twice a week, but...

To quote a previous post, click on the "Insert Quote" link over on the right of the post that you want to quote while you're in the forum.  It'll produce a block of text at the top with

Code: [Select]
[quote author=Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche link=topic= ....]

... the quoted text ...

[/quote]

if it happens to be a Nietzsche quote.  If you leave that top thing with the quote author= and the bottom thing with the /quote there, you can remove (or add!) whatever you like in between.  It'll show up as a quote in your post.

Another trick to know is that when you're editing your response, you should always use the  Preview button, scroll back up and have a look at what you've done.

One other thing is that when you're in the "Post reply" state, you can scroll down and quote some of the more recent posts with the same looking but slightly different behaving "Insert Quote" button over on the right of any of the posts without images that are on that page.  Clicking this "Insert Quote" button will insert a quote for that where the cursor currently is in the editing box where you have been typing.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 06, 2018, 06:51:45 AM
was there a dif face gen software once upon a long ago ??
going from this post http://www.relativitybook.com/CoolStuff/facebank.html (http://www.relativitybook.com/CoolStuff/facebank.html)


I sorta remember one I wanted to buy (an one I couldn't afford) but this don't ring any bells


this hobby has changed more in 10 years then car engines in 100 yrs

There was (and still is, more or less) another one called FaceShop.  They renamed it HeadShop.  DAZ still offers it.  The main difficulty with these face generators is that they track the current (DAZ) figure, so the HeadShop offered only works directly on Genesis 3 figures at the moment.

I put up that particular Facegen referring page because we were discussing someone for whom there was a corresponding Facegen configuration file there.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 06, 2018, 06:55:21 AM
I have the original FaceShop by AbaloneLLC and I never got it to work its a DS plugin.  Pity.  Never got a refund either.  It came from DAZ I think.  Face Shop Pro came from Rendo 2 years later.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 06, 2018, 07:00:47 AM
I did get it to work, but it took hours to produce something what was not hideous.  It relies on moving little squares to points on the face's image to identify the corners of various facial features.  Missing by a just a little for some of the critical ones would produce quite painful results. 

On the other hand, I have somewhere a picture of one of our dogs on an M4 (I think) head.   :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 07:30:47 AM
Have a good night Aelin.  I never did get to the Newsletter...That's got to be a first thing in the morning job after the contest picks.   

If you don't do it... :pervy:

one day will work out the trick to using quotes
OR get in here more then twice a week  :tearlaugh:
heddheld, click on the "Quote" text in the top of the concerned message. But if you want to continue reading all messages after, make a right click on to open a new tab. It's also like that I do to be able to quote several messages - copy/paste is a good friend :psycho:

I did get it to work, but it took hours to produce something what was not hideous.  It relies on moving little squares to points on the face's image to identify the corners of various facial features.  Missing by a just a little for some of the critical ones would produce quite painful results. 

On the other hand, I have somewhere a picture of one of our dogs on an M4 (I think) head.   :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
:panic: May I remember you that Halloween is in October only? :psycho:
Points on faces are moveable sometimes too much on characters, but we have always the setting wheels to try to fix them a bit.

Good morning guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 06, 2018, 07:39:57 AM
Good morning, Aelin.
The FaceShop that McG was talking about was a standalone program.  No wheels, at least that I saw.   :sad:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 06, 2018, 07:41:21 AM
Oh, I wouldn't post any non-Halloween pictures this early in the year, would I? :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 07:47:44 AM
She is pretty cool actually, and better than a lot of doctors I've had about figuring stuff out.

Had to take a nap when I got home. Then eat....pffffffttttttttttt, what I can eat now. Everything bland, no dairy, no coffee, no spicy. Nothing 'complicated'.  For apparently, the December round of the flu blew out my good stomach bacteria and replaced it with yech, or something like that. I have to take 'Probiotics' - that is Acidopholous - to replace it. I was about 167 and now weigh 157.  She's worried about my weight loss. Yup.

That's all I know.

Sounds close to my regular diet and not far from Aelin's. Here Acidopholous pills are quite expensive. I've a lactose intolerant friend who was spending a fortune on them. If you can tolerate sauerkraut, which I love; the unpasteurized versions are loaded with it. It's the bacteria that starts off the whole fermentation process in the cabbage.

Anchovies. Takes me a while to catch up around here. Any real Caesar Salad requires anchovies and are a big part of the "production" when you eat in a restaurant that does table side service. I did it for years back in the 80's when I had a bistro.     
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 07:55:15 AM
Good morning, Aelin.
The FaceShop that McG was talking about was a standalone program.  No wheels, at least that I saw.   :sad:
It's sad they made no wheels to go with  :puah: They missed an important thing to fix issues with characters.

Oh, I wouldn't post any non-Halloween pictures this early in the year, would I? :grin:
Maybe you could scaried the nurse like that? And force her to stay in her room :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 08:04:12 AM
one day will work out the trick to using quotes
OR get in here more then twice a week  :tearlaugh:


was things I planned on saying before I started comp !! UK has lots of tv shows/ads get in shape/diet/have that slim tummy for hols


been watching a couple .......so drag that that idea of indoor/balcony etc gardens back .......is close to spring lol
guess we all seen them "baby" veggies in supermarket ...seedlings lol
1/2 the size twice the price  :shrug:
but one show I watched tested them in a lab ............broccoli "cress" (seedlings) had 90 times the good stuff then the adult plant
ok some was much higher then others and have to say will be less fibre


in uk as a kid we all had to grow cress/ beans woteva [from tv shows think you lot did same ? ]
so think that windowsill (ledge not sure u call it same ) you grow in 2x3 pots .........all your broccoli for a month in 2 weeks wow
not got a sunny window ............no worries coloured LEDS!!!..give your plants the exact light they like  :perverted: ......yeah a radish likes dif light to a broccoli  :shrug: .........but you can run ur lights off a comp ........let it feed/water tell you when to pick


hush your NOT a god  :puah: yet !! pop a solar panel in nice place and your LEDS run for free

"Spring" hedd. Really. It's -24c. -35 with the wind chill. Spring is so far away a "jack hammer" wouldn't crack the soil in the box on my balcony. It's been warmer at the North Pole for the last week than it has been here.

Coloured LEDs are indeed valuable in growing, flowering and fruiting of plants. Different wavelengths and timings for different stages. For about $40 cdn I can buy an Arduino or a Raspberry Pi to run the system. Lights, water, and CO2 if that's the type of "leafy green" you wish to grow. The solar panel is getting cheaper. Chinese made for $50 cdn and $10 for a pump used in indoor water features. Roughly $100 cdn for a self contained system not counting pots, growing medium, and aquarium tubing. I did a system similar to this 2 years ago.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 09:03:06 AM
Indeed when ones own stomach refuses to behave and gives you constant issue and messes with the rest of ones body it is time to open up a can of "whoop ass" on it

:dominatrix:

    and pummel it into submission


My poor stomach has already been thrashed and me with it. I think I'm just going to take things slow and easy - one step at a time. The new orders seem to be helping. I'm not feeling quite as beastly as I have been this morning. Having a piece of toast at the moment. Can't butter it so I smeared apple butter on it. Yay for apple butter!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 09:12:07 AM
Good Morning to all.....

HH....hope you get the "Quote" part figured out......and I don't see us going to "Stones" anytime in the future LOLOL.....  But yes, when someone gets ill....eating is the last thing on their minds.   And no MAGIC pill for me so no worries about working forever LOLOL....

Good Morning Sir Knight.....Thanks for lending a hand to HH on the quoting aspect of our humble home....

And yes....it was a good day for getting things at home done.  I always say "Real Life" first....all else is secondary.  But got tons to get done in here today....so got to get at it.  Else Aelin will get  :dominatrix: after my butt....LOL

Good Morning to you also PDG.....Yup....You folks are getting what we've had all Winter.....Bone Chilling Temps.....  We have -9 Degrees right now....Windchill -19 degrees....

Morning Mc-G and Aelin....

And yes Aelin...all will get done today.   I can finally get into the computer room since I got some of the decorations out of there.....though I spend a lot of time trying to see what the kitten is getting into next in here.  I tried shutting the door to keep him out.....but alas....that tiny meow tugged at me so now he's in here and we are playing hide and seek....and not intentionally LOLOLOL....


And I see Ray, "J", and fafnir popped in....Morning to all....

Now to get busy....With :java: in hand......
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 09:15:27 AM

My poor stomach has already been thrashed and me with it. I think I'm just going to take things slow and easy - one step at a time. The new orders seem to be helping. I'm not feeling quite as beastly as I have been this morning. Having a piece of toast at the moment. Can't butter it so I smeared apple butter on it. Yay for apple butter!

Glad to hear that Ray...one step at a time I'm thinking....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 09:19:28 AM
Sounds close to my regular diet and not far from Aelin's. Here Acidopholous pills are quite expensive. I've a lactose intolerant friend who was spending a fortune on them. If you can tolerate sauerkraut, which I love; the unpasteurized versions are loaded with it. It's the bacteria that starts off the whole fermentation process in the cabbage.
 


Generally I do eat yoghurt that provides me with the acidopholous. I wasn't eating it though in December because most dairy wasn't appealing to me when I first got the flu. That's the only dairy I can eat right now per the doctor. However I won't have any until I can go to the store on Monday. I'm not lactose intolerant, thankfully.

I didn't know that about sauerkraut. However, it's not a thing I like to eat. I love boiled cabbage with corned beef, but can't eat the corned beef any more. Lol.

The pills are just under 8 cents apiece - at least from my pharmacy. Not too bad. 

I'm sure it does seem a 'far piece' from Spring right now up in your neck of the woods!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 09:23:12 AM
Glad to hear that Ray...one step at a time I'm thinking....

Yup, that's all I can do. Now if I could just quit feeling like an addle-pated old bat and think straight, I'll be good. :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 09:24:54 AM
Good Morning to all.....
And yes....it was a good day for getting things at home done.  I always say "Real Life" first....all else is secondary.  But got tons to get done in here today....so got to get at it.  Else Aelin will get  :dominatrix: after my butt....LOL

Good Morning to you also PDG.....Yup....You folks are getting what we've had all Winter.....Bone Chilling Temps.....  We have -9 Degrees right now....Windchill -19 degrees....

Morning Mc-G and Aelin....

And yes Aelin...all will get done today.   I can finally get into the computer room since I got some of the decorations out of there.....though I spend a lot of time trying to see what the kitten is getting into next in here.  I tried shutting the door to keep him out.....but alas....that tiny meow tugged at me so now he's in here and we are playing hide and seek....and not intentionally LOLOLOL....


And I see Ray, "J", and fafnir popped in....Morning to all....

Now to get busy....With :java: in hand......

Not me but the nurse :iminnocent: :psycho:

You have winter, here we have non stop rain since yesterday. I'm happy to be on the top of a hill in the town, but people near the river must start to have issues.

To catch the cat outside of his hidden place, try to present to him one of his toys. Excite the cat, then take the toy more and more far of the hidden place. You have 1 chance on 2 that works, but if he is in a mood to play and not just stay in his place it's ok.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 09:25:50 AM
Just wish I could have some coffee though. Oh well - black tea it is.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 09:33:06 AM
I saw that about the rain in your area Aelin.....And yup....I'd be climbing up hill by now.

Ray....I truly do feel for you.  But Tea isn't to bad of a substitute....I do the tea thing every now and then...mainly when I'm waiting for my coffee to be made.... :feelgood:

As for the kitten....Hard to believe...but he's behaving.  He's in love with my Christmas Tree Storage bag...it's all zipped up so he can't get inside of it...but it's folded so it let's him hide in the folds.... 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 06, 2018, 09:53:38 AM
Good morning, Aelin.
The FaceShop that McG was talking about was a standalone program.  No wheels, at least that I saw.   :sad:

Yes, the update to 3.7 was the last, then he went to Pro.  I have that too.  It IS a stand alone OR a plugin to DS.  He didn't do one for Poser at that time.  I got tired of messing with it, still have it archived.  Latest OS it runs in is Vista I think.  Means it might work fine in Win 7.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 10:06:54 AM

lol can do a "quote"
but when faced with 5 or 10 pages  :ny-fathertime: :tearlaugh:


did try open each page in a new tab ........but that gave me quote in new window
argggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


I'm a tyke will never use 10 posts if one will do  :shrug:


PDG yeah I seen on news the only thing u can grow is icicles at the mo .........stay warm mate ;-)
but I think it surprised me that the get so much more from the seedling
anno u done your fair share of planting ..........small pots lots of plants .......then the pricking out (gosh back aches thinking about it )


but leave them there one more week then eat ....is not just a chief thing they are really beter for u
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 10:15:47 AM

faceshop rings a bell ....had to add points/lines to define the shape
was on wishlist lol at one time ..........is it still about ?? at rendo or daz ??


but then there is other programs now can make full doll
like this for blender
http://www.manuelbastioni.com/manuellab.php
or (its mom sorta )
http://www.makehuman.org/


the skin makes so much difference to any doll !! really wish some one could make an automatic skin tex
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 10:20:23 AM
lol can do a "quote"
but when faced with 5 or 10 pages  :ny-fathertime: :tearlaugh:


did try open each page in a new tab ........but that gave me quote in new window
argggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I open the new tab for the first quote. Write what I need.
Do I find another interesting message to quote? I open a new tab, copy the message with code of quote, back with that in the tab where I write. Tada! Then the second tab is no longer useful.
It's precious when I'm back after a night and a morning and it's already 5 pages here! :panic:  Like that, I disminish also the number of my messages to don't lose everybody when we are many to write in the same time. Crossed messages are so terrible sometimes :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 10:28:29 AM

will try that hun


but when the internet crashes  :shrug:


was YOUR fault :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 10:30:28 AM
will try that hun


but when the internet crashes  :shrug:


was YOUR fault :tearlaugh:
:panic:  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 06, 2018, 10:42:22 AM
Just wish I could have some coffee though. Oh well - black tea it is.

Having a light brunch.  And one coffee for you too!   Get well Ray.    :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 10:54:19 AM
Thanks, McG. I already had already voluntarily quit drinking it night before last because it was causing me problems. I believe it was irritating my stomach. (Seems most things do.) I still miss it though!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 10:56:08 AM
I open the new tab for the first quote. Write what I need.
Do I find another interesting message to quote? I open a new tab, copy the message with code of quote, back with that in the tab where I write. Tada! Then the second tab is no longer useful.

Yup, and you close it and write on. I do that too sometimes. Nothin' crashes.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 11:09:39 AM
Yup, and you close it and write on. I do that too sometimes. Nothin' crashes.
Maybe his computer will want to take the power this year. With these beats who knows?  :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 03:10:37 PM

maybe I try harder next time


or give up an find new hobby's


maybe get fish again  :tearlaugh: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 03:12:51 PM
Don't you want to hunt snakes?  :pleeeeez: We have some of them in the Attic, on the head of somebody :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 03:24:57 PM

nay fish more fun


skinning snakes is a pita ............but do taste better then frogs legs ;-)
with enough garlic :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 03:33:44 PM

some days I wonder why I care


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-plane-makes-unscheduled-131133279.html


beam me up Scotty I wanna go home  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 06, 2018, 03:36:10 PM
some days I wonder why I care


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-plane-makes-unscheduled-131133279.html


beam me up Scotty I wanna go home  :tearlaugh:

Mein Gott in Himmel
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
(http://mumuland.m.u.pic.centerblog.net/54ce75b0.gif) :(ROFLMAO: Excellent! But I imagine how the rest of fly until "stop" was for passengers near the bathroom (http://mumuland.m.u.pic.centerblog.net/38b7e4cf.gif)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 04:15:10 PM

merde aint too bad if it aint in eyes or mouth  :tearlaugh:


can always piss on hands  :ny-fathertime:


old skool baby  :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
maybe I try harder next time


or give up an find new hobby's


maybe get fish again  :tearlaugh:

Get a kiddie wading pool from your local department store (if they still have such a thing) and raise carp. At least ya can eat em.

I got the aquarium channel on my tube. Only time I watch the little buggers swimming around is when I'm too buzzed to go to bed and bed is too far to walk to. I keep thinking that at least they don't freeze to death when the power goes out. It gets cold in here when I turn off all the electronics and computers. I turn the tube back on and there they are; happily swimming back and forth. Little spiky shrimp faces poking out from the rocks. Plastic coral waving in the air pump currents. Mesmerizing.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 04:54:08 PM
some days I wonder why I care


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-plane-makes-unscheduled-131133279.html


beam me up Scotty I wanna go home  :tearlaugh:

The way of the world.....

But as I tell my Mother whenever she says how horrible things are now in the world..... "Things have always been horrible....we just didn't have the communications we now have to hear about it instantaneously."
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 05:09:17 PM

PDG you amaze me !! .............we have lots of Poles round here
they eat carp for chrimbo dinner (oy they didn't have turkeys)
but they catch and put in bath /paddling pool woteva for a couple of weeks before lunch
lose that muddy flavour  :puah:


I didn't think you had carp that far north


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 05:09:48 PM
Got some sad news today.  One of my friends and co-worker who retired from the company in 2010 after 35 years of working there passed away yesterday. 

I just saw him two weeks ago and he was telling me how glad he was that he retired when he did and glad that I decided to retire after 35 years also....

He told me how he enjoys the Grandkids coming over all the time, and that he was feeling great,  and how his schedule is NO schedule.  He was such a humorous and fun person.

"Enjoy life...I am" he said.


I don't know the details of his passing but gone is gone no matter what the cause.  He was 72 years old.

Just goes to show you we have no control over anything.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 05:12:50 PM

TL had same with my mom


why is there so many murders ??  is less then then before mum
cos now u on cctv !!


now cars can drive an get drugs of doc on IPhone


how long before u have a POO an toilet emails docs to say u ill ??
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 06, 2018, 05:13:26 PM
So sorry that you've lost a friend, TL.  Sounds like he had a good life and was enjoying it until the end.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 05:14:48 PM

how long before u have a POO an toilet emails docs to say u ill ??


Shhhhh.....I think they're working on it......   :puah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 06, 2018, 05:24:20 PM
sorry for your loss Luffie
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 06, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
how long before u have a POO an toilet emails docs to say u ill ??
That is when you have a smartphone, I'm lucky to don't have  :tearlaugh:

TL, I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. Sure it's not a good beginning of the year for his family.


Excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 05:42:11 PM
I agree Aelin..I already got ahold of Judy and let her know if she needs anything...I'm here..... and thanks Fafnir and Sir Knight.    We saw more of each other while working but did bump into each other very often and I'd go to little league games whenever the team he was coaching played...And of course we'd always meet up in Walmart.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 06, 2018, 05:44:26 PM
PDG you amaze me !! .............we have lots of Poles round here
they eat carp for chrimbo dinner (oy they didn't have turkeys)
but they catch and put in bath /paddling pool woteva for a couple of weeks before lunch
lose that muddy flavour  :puah:


I didn't think you had carp that far north




We have Carp and Suckers here in Wisconsin.....and you are about as north as you can go here LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 05:54:28 PM

guess its a space thing


sorry about your friend ........is a sad thing about living to lose a friend
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 05:57:07 PM
PDG you amaze me !! .............we have lots of Poles round here
they eat carp for chrimbo dinner (oy they didn't have turkeys)
but they catch and put in bath /paddling pool woteva for a couple of weeks before lunch
lose that muddy flavour  :puah:

I didn't think you had carp that far north


mrs. pdg is Polish.

Carp are an invasive fish that got loose down south in the US and been spreading north ever since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLmJjRqXDCo
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
TL sorry for your loss. Always sad to hear these things.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 05:59:00 PM

without pullin up google maps ..........I'd think PDG is north of u ??




ha one day I'll know enough about usa states to go on a tv quiz show
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 06, 2018, 06:01:55 PM

mrs. pdg is Polish.

Carp are an invasive fish that got loose down south in the US and been spreading north ever since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLmJjRqXDCo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLmJjRqXDCo)

There are carp in the lake at the school where I work.  Some of them are absolutely huge.  And obviously not native to New Jersey.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 06:06:49 PM
without pullin up google maps ..........I'd think PDG is north of u ??




ha one day I'll know enough about usa states to go on a tv quiz show

I'm a few degrees farther north than the State, but not much. 47 degrees north or there about.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 06:07:20 PM
Sorry to hear of the loss of your friend, TL. It's good you got to see him recently.  :peek:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 06:07:59 PM

oh wow


for me ............carp was Chinese
"farmed " as a food fish
the Koi or goldfish was breed as decorations


was brought here as "sport" fishing (as was the zander and USA red crayfish)


dunno if u ever seen that customs in upsidedownlad
but don't take a lot of sense to know why they so gungho

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
There are carp in the lake at the school where I work.  Some of them are absolutely huge.  And obviously not native to New Jersey.

They can grow up to 3 ft long. There has been a lot of effort into keeping them out of the Great Lakes. Bit late though. The Zebra Mussel invasion already got most of the fresh water bodies up here now. Don't know about the south side.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 06:12:19 PM

you bugger


time zones are east /west


now I need google to find 47 ?? u sure


wasn't there a film 49 ? ur takin the mick
will spank u in heaven  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 06:14:08 PM
oh wow

dunno if u ever seen that customs in upsidedownlad
but don't take a lot of sense to know why they so gungho

Rabbits. :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 06, 2018, 06:20:03 PM
you bugger


time zones are east /west


now I need google to find 47 ?? u sure


wasn't there a film 49 ? ur takin the mick
will spank u in heaven  :tearlaugh:

If it make you feel any better we're both living some time in the future as our posts show up here as an hour in the past.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 06, 2018, 06:26:09 PM
Got some sad news today.  One of my friends and co-worker who retired from the company in 2010 after 35 years of working there passed away yesterday. 

I just saw him two weeks ago and he was telling me how glad he was that he retired when he did and glad that I decided to retire after 35 years also....

He told me how he enjoys the Grandkids coming over all the time, and that he was feeling great,  and how his schedule is NO schedule.  He was such a humorous and fun person.

"Enjoy life...I am" he said.


I don't know the details of his passing but gone is gone no matter what the cause.  He was 72 years old.

Just goes to show you we have no control over anything.


Sorry to hear that my condolences to the family. Does suck,  finally retire take time to enjoy life and then it is your turn.

Sad
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 06, 2018, 06:28:37 PM

ur point is


Trump hates cannuks as much as limeys ??


yet I know it only a place on planet not a rift in friendship :tearlaugh: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 06, 2018, 09:30:59 PM
Just wanted to let y'all know I've finally finished the 2018 Girls From T.N.A. Calendar. It's pdf format, 115mb 300dpi - suitable for printing or scaring off snakey-haired nurses. Enjoy!

http://www.rodslair.com/TNA_2018.pdf
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 09:33:17 PM
you bugger


time zones are east /west


now I need google to find 47 ?? u sure


wasn't there a film 49 ? ur takin the mick
will spank u in heaven  :tearlaugh:


England is the home of the Greenwich Meridian, right? That's 0° E/W.

Canada is west of England 'across the pond', so try 47° W. Those are Longitudes and Latitudes hon, not time zones - although at some point they do sort of coincide.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 09:38:52 PM
Or maybe I lied and it's 47° N - the Latitude
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 06, 2018, 09:45:22 PM
Just wanted to let y'all know I've finally finished the 2018 Girls From T.N.A. Calendar. It's pdf format, 115mb 300dpi - suitable for printing or scaring off snakey-haired nurses. Enjoy!

http://www.rodslair.com/TNA_2018.pdf

Looking great from what I saw. I think more people than me are looking at it. Will wait until a little later. Got to Ronny and Sancha :smiley:  Congratulations, Rod!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 06, 2018, 10:06:18 PM
I just hope GoDaddy doesn't send someone over to flog me for sucking up all their bandwidth!  :tearlaugh: I mean... I wouldn't mind a decent flogging, but Danica doesn't work with them anymore....  :sadder:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 06, 2018, 10:09:56 PM
Just wanted to let y'all know I've finally finished the 2018 Girls From T.N.A. Calendar. It's pdf format, 115mb 300dpi - suitable for printing or scaring off snakey-haired nurses. Enjoy!

http://www.rodslair.com/TNA_2018.pdf

Well, it is definitely being examined by many others couldn't get past March will try tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 06, 2018, 10:10:44 PM
well done  Rod
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 06, 2018, 10:11:04 PM
I just hope GoDaddy doesn't send someone over to flog me for sucking up all their bandwidth!  :tearlaugh: I mean... I wouldn't mind a decent flogging, but Danica doesn't work with them anymore....  :sadder:

Then Kianna will be glad to administer a decent flogging :heeheehee: :pervy:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 06, 2018, 10:17:56 PM
Well, how about that Kianna is all ready to administer a decent flogging and now the calendar loads up completely ...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 06, 2018, 10:20:53 PM
Then Kianna will be glad to administer a decent flogging :heeheehee: :pervy:

:OMG: Dammit... I just KNEW I was gonna pay for that comment!  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 06, 2018, 10:21:55 PM
Well, how about that Kianna is all ready to administer a decent flogging and now the calendar loads up completely ...

Whew......  :fainting:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 06, 2018, 10:23:22 PM
:heeheehee: Ask and ye shall receive .... far be it for us to deny thee the exquisite enjoyment that one experiences from Kianna's loving attention and touch.

:dominatrix:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 06, 2018, 10:30:56 PM
I say again... :OMG: Ya have to draw the line somewhere you know...  :shiv3:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 06, 2018, 10:34:22 PM
Lines are meant to be crossed ... and you should know she is one tenacious individual when it comes to administering a decent flogging or :pervy: :shakeyour:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 06, 2018, 11:09:09 PM
Lines are meant to be crossed ... and you should know she is one tenacious individual when it comes to administering a decent flogging or

Oh, dear, dear, dear....... I see I'm going to have to cleanse the muddiness of misinformation once again.....  :shrug:

Now, THIS:  is Tenacious.. Tenacious Laurie Care, to be exact, and as her initials indicate, she is expert at administering TLC! She dances with joy at the prospect of quality time with your dedicated ASSO!

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Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 01:40:59 AM
some days I wonder why I care


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-plane-makes-unscheduled-131133279.html (https://uk.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-plane-makes-unscheduled-131133279.html)


beam me up Scotty I wanna go home  :tearlaugh:

Oh man.   With 245 people on board, those toilets are likely pretty busy.   I can understand why the airliner made a quick stop!   If the guy wasn't charged, then likely he was a shade more than half a bubble off center.  Sheesh.   Now they will start screening for mental health issues in the "otherwise" category!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 01:44:34 AM
That's cute RodS!  Straightened him right out!   Hey did ya find what you wanted for a 'cosplay' on Evangelin Lilly?   I think we managed to cover every known kit and morph that came even close!   She truly is one fine looking gal.  Freckles and all!   
 :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 01:49:45 AM
I agree Aelin..I already got ahold of Judy and let her know if she needs anything...I'm here..... and thanks Fafnir and Sir Knight.    We saw more of each other while working but did bump into each other very often and I'd go to little league games whenever the team he was coaching played...And of course we'd always meet up in Walmart.....

I know you miss him, and sorry you lost him now.   Prayers for his family and friends, TL.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 01:55:22 AM
Just wanted to let y'all know I've finally finished the 2018 Girls From T.N.A. Calendar. It's pdf format, 115mb 300dpi - suitable for printing or scaring off snakey-haired nurses. Enjoy!

http://www.rodslair.com/TNA_2018.pdf (http://www.rodslair.com/TNA_2018.pdf)

Thank you Rod!  DL'ing as I type.   You do a fine job of making up well dressed foxy gals man.   The "Well" part often means "barely" !!!  Ha! :yippee: :feelgood:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 02:28:07 AM
Then Kianna will be glad to administer a decent flogging :heeheehee: :pervy:

Yeah just don't put any Deth Metal muzik on, she'll draw blood whipping her head all around and them snaketacles snapping like real whips!   
GAAAAHHHH !!!!    :yeow:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 02:31:15 AM
Gee!   Am I the ONLY one awake at 2am round here ?!?!?!?!?
 :shrug: :perverted:    :ny-fathertime:

Ah HAH!   I see Ray and RodS up and at em! 
Unless they do like me most times and don't log out when I fall asleep...    :whattodo:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 07, 2018, 03:44:17 AM

for the clever one ( not sure I know you well enough to call u Ray and sid seems a little disrespectful yet I don't think I'd get all letters in your netname in right order  :ny-fathertime: and that's even worse !! )
yeah I know I'm 0 longways
wish I was 0 parallel then I would be a little 'otter instead of an annoying tyke  :tearlaugh:


is an old film called the 49th parallel (if u not seen its about the border USA /Canada )
so PDG saying 47 got me on the hop ........have looked now and that border aint a straight line  :no_points:


thanks for calendar RodS..........maybe I wont miss next appointment now ;-) :newyears2:


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 04:08:11 AM
Sure ya will!   You'll do like me and the other guys here.  Lookit this month, then lift to look at the next, and the next, and then you're late!  Ha! 
 :tearlaugh: :ny-fathertime: (I still remember dadnabbit!)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 07, 2018, 04:14:48 AM
Got some sad news today.  One of my friends and co-worker who retired from the company in 2010 after 35 years of working there passed away yesterday. 

I just saw him two weeks ago and he was telling me how glad he was that he retired when he did and glad that I decided to retire after 35 years also....

He told me how he enjoys the Grandkids coming over all the time, and that he was feeling great,  and how his schedule is NO schedule.  He was such a humorous and fun person.

"Enjoy life...I am" he said.


I don't know the details of his passing but gone is gone no matter what the cause.  He was 72 years old.

Just goes to show you we have no control over anything.


Sad news really, TL! I'm sorry for him, for you and for his family!

And I'm a little shaken too: he was an year younger than me... as per the boy scouts motto, "be prepared"... :sad:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 04:32:21 AM
and the Coast Guard motto:  Semper Paratus  "Always Prepared"

I have been watching around me, and noting that a number of familiar faces are gone now.   
No one is spared this.   We all march to this tune.   :shock: :whattodo:

This THE appointment I would rather be late for!
 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 07, 2018, 04:37:46 AM

you sad buggers ...........we all close to THAT doorway :tearlaugh:


now hush and enjoy
https://youtu.be/pH5chbvhUpI
 :keepauhandsoffa:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 04:56:20 AM
She looks GREAT!   But all my joints start hurting while I'm watching her!   :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 07, 2018, 05:34:26 AM

 :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:


mine too :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 07, 2018, 05:43:01 AM

this will let you chillax
https://youtu.be/PQnfj3FPurI
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 07, 2018, 07:31:54 AM
Oh, I'm there.   :tearlaugh:

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 08:21:13 AM
for the clever one ( not sure I know you well enough to call u Ray and sid seems a little disrespectful yet I don't think I'd get all letters in your netname in right order  :ny-fathertime: and that's even worse !! )
yeah I know I'm 0 longways
wish I was 0 parallel then I would be a little 'otter instead of an annoying tyke  :tearlaugh:


is an old film called the 49th parallel (if u not seen its about the border USA /Canada )
so PDG saying 47 got me on the hop ........have looked now and that border aint a straight line  :no_points:


thanks for calendar RodS..........maybe I wont miss next appointment now ;-) :newyears2:


Why do you have to know me 'well enough' to call me Ray? It's my name. Or if you want to be formal, you can call me Rayvn which is my legal name. 

Never, ever call me Sid. I will become irate.

Let me help you out with 'sidhe' here. It's pronounced 'shee'. So is the word 'sith' - just a Scot alternate of 'sidhe' - unlike it is said in Star Wars but they aren't Fae, either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aos_S%C3%AD

Yes, I know about the movie the 49th Parallel. Don't think I ever saw it however. The Canadian border is pretty straight until you get to the eastern side of the country and that's because of all the waterways right in there - stuff like Niagara Falls, and the Great Lakes.

Yes, you'd be a lot warmer at 0° Lat. And probably browner too - somewhere in Egypt I think. :tearlaugh:

Why do you all call yourselves 'tykes'? What's that from?
 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 07, 2018, 08:27:04 AM
Just wanted to let y'all know I've finally finished the 2018 Girls From T.N.A. Calendar. It's pdf format, 115mb 300dpi - suitable for printing or scaring off snakey-haired nurses. Enjoy!

http://www.rodslair.com/TNA_2018.pdf
Pages are low to come (I'm only to 3 pages), but I see for the beginning that girls have snow fun. Is it a preparation before a special trip?  :tearlaugh:

Good morning guys! It's done, we have a break in the rain since the earlier morning  :grpwave:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 08:27:11 AM
She looks GREAT!   But all my joints start hurting while I'm watching her!   :ny-fathertime:


That's all muscle. LOL...that woman could hurt you all - damn!  :(ROFLMAO:

Cute kids :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 08:28:27 AM
Good morning Aelin and :cheer: for the break in the rain! Will you get some sun today to enjoy?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 07, 2018, 08:44:08 AM

That's all muscle. LOL...that woman could hurt you all - damn!  :(ROFLMAO:


Too right she could do one an injury ... just by walking around you once ... talk about muscle control :psycho:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 07, 2018, 08:56:05 AM
Good morning Aelin and :cheer: for the break in the rain! Will you get some sun today to enjoy?
Hi Ray!
Alas no, not the most little part of sun. It tried this morning like few clouds were 'with light', in vain. Yet, if forecast weather says true for once, tomorrow we can expect to see sun.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 09:46:13 AM
Too right she could do one an injury ... just by walking around you once ... talk about muscle control :psycho:

As 'massy' as she is, to have all of that so tightly packed, you bet your bippy she's got muscle control...out the wazoo.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 07, 2018, 09:47:16 AM
this will let you chillax
https://youtu.be/PQnfj3FPurI (https://youtu.be/PQnfj3FPurI)

They are not only good, they are also damn CUTE! :smile:

Thanks Hedd!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
Hi Ray!
Alas no, not the most little part of sun. It tried this morning like few clouds were 'with light', in vain. Yet, if forecast weather says true for once, tomorrow we can expect to see sun.

That would be a lovely start to a new week, wouldn't it?

I actually feel somewhat human today, but I don't want to overdo things and get myself worn out. Still, I've got a lot to do...being sick all week.

Welp...this isn't getting anything done except runnin' my fingers.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 07, 2018, 09:50:44 AM
As 'massy' as she is, to have all of that so tightly packed, you bet your bippy she's got muscle control...out the wazoo.

She reminds me vaguely of someone. If only she had snakehair... :funny:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 07, 2018, 09:52:23 AM
excellent  thanks Hedd
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
this will let you chillax
https://youtu.be/PQnfj3FPurI (https://youtu.be/PQnfj3FPurI)

Pretty good for little tykes!   Poor things can't even reach around the neck to frett well!   But they played flawlessly.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 11:09:25 AM
She reminds me vaguely of someone. If only she had snakehair... :funny:

Mmph!  fmph!   :puah:     


  GAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!   :yeow:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 07, 2018, 12:19:06 PM
Big Sissy
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 07, 2018, 12:57:26 PM
you sad buggers ...........we all close to THAT doorway :tearlaugh:


now hush and enjoy
https://youtu.be/pH5chbvhUpI (https://youtu.be/pH5chbvhUpI)
 :keepauhandsoffa:
DAAAAAAYUM!!!!!

I need  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 07, 2018, 01:01:41 PM
Yeah I think I'll have mine just a tiny bit slower!    :tearlaugh: :perverted:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 07, 2018, 02:13:22 PM



Let me help you out with 'sidhe' here. It's pronounced 'shee'. So is the word 'sith' - just a Scot alternate of 'sidhe' - unlike it is said in Star Wars but they aren't Fae, either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aos_S%C3%AD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aos_S%C3%AD)


Fascinating..... And this is most interesting as well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leanan_s%C3%ADdhe

"The leannán sídhe is generally depicted as a beautiful muse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse) who offers inspiration to an artist in exchange for their love and devotion; however, this frequently results in madness for the artist....."

This explains a lot......  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
Fascinating..... And this is most interesting as well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leanan_s%C3%ADdhe

"The leannán sídhe is generally depicted as a beautiful muse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse) who offers inspiration to an artist in exchange for their love and devotion; however, this frequently results in madness for the artist....."

This explains a lot......  :tearlaugh:

Remember our friend Roxy? I recall when I'd first met her on Rendo, she was doing a series of images about a poor hapless poet and his leannán sídhe. Seems she left him drowning in his tears at the gates of the Faelands and that was the end.

I think it's just a good story for why artists are naturally 'mad' :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 07, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
I remember Roxy... She was one of the first folks I met on Rendo, and she gave me some great tips when I was first starting out with Poser 8. I wonder what happened to her... I really miss her art and photography. I've not heard from her in years - no replies to emails for a long time. We still have a way to remember her... The "Roxanne" character by Jenny (Pixeluna) was inspired by her. So we can always think of her as a Riulan warrior Princess!

Sounds like a hellofa way to leave someone at the gates of Faelands.. I guess I'm lucky - I seem to have a free pass there these days..  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 07, 2018, 05:07:30 PM
Sounds like a hellofa way to leave someone at the gates of Faelands.. I guess I'm lucky - I seem to have a free pass there these days..  :java:
Maybe it's because you offer to them some pizzas :pervy: :iminnocent:

Excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 07, 2018, 05:36:23 PM
 :tearlaugh: You should see what happens when they get into the BBQ.....  :crazysmile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 07, 2018, 05:42:14 PM
:tearlaugh: You should see what happens when they get into the BBQ.....  :crazysmile:

Sounds like a one might need to take a garden hose to them after they get done.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
:tearlaugh: You should see what happens when they get into the BBQ.....  :crazysmile:


Kinnie probably smears it on her wings :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 05:50:02 PM
I remember Roxy... She was one of the first folks I met on Rendo, and she gave me some great tips when I was first starting out with Poser 8. I wonder what happened to her... I really miss her art and photography. I've not heard from her in years - no replies to emails for a long time. We still have a way to remember her... The "Roxanne" character by Jenny (Pixeluna) was inspired by her. So we can always think of her as a Riulan warrior Princess!

Sounds like a hellofa way to leave someone at the gates of Faelands.. I guess I'm lucky - I seem to have a free pass there these days..  :java:

I know I haven't heard anything from her either. What was that last trip she'd taken - to the Isle of Skye? What a strange place that was. She always took such interesting trips and lots of pictures!

Yes, yes...we still have Jenny's Roxanne to memorialize her :smiley:

I believe that's called 'being permanently off with the faeries' Rod :winks: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 07, 2018, 05:51:00 PM
Sounds like a one might need to take a garden hose to them after they get done.

You're probably right, J!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 07, 2018, 06:00:33 PM
Wet T-shirt contest room 165 :tearlaugh: :pervy:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 07, 2018, 06:22:59 PM
Wet T-shirt contest room 165 :tearlaugh: :pervy:

OK... Now you're giving me ideas......   :heeheehee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 07, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Sounds like a one might need to take a garden hose to them after they get done.

Oh, no...... Don't get them wet of feed them after midnight....

Oh, wait....... That was something else.....  :shrug:

 :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 07, 2018, 06:31:47 PM
One of the moms at the church's nursery leave a note with similar content about her son. :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 07, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
OK... Now you're giving me ideas......   :heeheehee:

 :pervy: Ideas are the norm at this hour of the day for me, especially after four hours of rearranging all the computer hardware into one rack.
Too much home improvement ... need :pervy: :hubbahubba: :cmereJ:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 08, 2018, 04:25:09 AM
Sounds like a one might need to take a garden hose to them after they get done.

WHUT!  Haven't heard of "Lickem Lollies" huh?   Even Ruby Rodd knew of them on 5th Element!  Seems they come with Jollies too!

Now if'n ye needs a drink when yer DONE, that's one thing.   He he he he HA HA HA!   :tearlaugh: :perverted:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 08, 2018, 04:27:09 AM
I know I haven't heard anything from her either. What was that last trip she'd taken - to the Isle of Skye? What a strange place that was. She always took such interesting trips and lots of pictures!

Yes, yes...we still have Jenny's Roxanne to memorialize her :smiley:

I believe that's called 'being permanently off with the faeries' Rod :winks:

EEK!   Sure sounds a lot like a handful of them "DednBerrieds"!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 08, 2018, 04:28:45 AM
Wet T-shirt contest room 165 :tearlaugh: :pervy:

I sure ain't coming in to see you in a wet tshirt, J!   HARUMPFH!    :no_points:     :ny-fathertime:

 :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 08, 2018, 04:29:55 AM
Oh, no...... Don't get them wet of feed them after midnight....

Oh, wait....... That was something else.....  :shrug:

 :tearlaugh:

Oohh!  What an idea!   Worth trying I think!   

Being human females they turn into Femlins, right!?!?    :feelgood: :heeheehee: :thumb_up: :woohoo:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 08, 2018, 05:30:53 AM
I sure ain't coming in to see you in a wet tshirt, J!   HARUMPFH!    :no_points:     :ny-fathertime:

 :tearlaugh:

Glad to hear that ... just the thought of me being in a wet t-shirt contest is disturbing enough
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 08, 2018, 06:54:24 AM
Always less disturbing than if it was the nurse with wet tshirt :panic:

Good morning guys!
Rayvn, do you remember I told you the forecast weather said we would have sun today? We are always waiting for it  :tearlaugh: :thud: Last time we saw the sun? I think it was December 31st :thud:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 08, 2018, 06:59:32 AM
Always less disturbing than if it was the nurse with wet tshirt :panic:

Good morning guys!
Rayvn, do you remember I told you the forecast weather said we would have sun today? We are always waiting for it  :tearlaugh: :thud: Last time we saw the sun? I think it was December 31st :thud:


C'est comme attendre Godot pour que le soleil montre son visage. Vous connaissez Godot?

I hope he will come out for you!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 08, 2018, 07:01:28 AM
EEK!   Sure sounds a lot like a handful of them "DednBerrieds"!!!


:whuaat:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 08, 2018, 07:07:15 AM

C'est comme attendre Godot pour que le soleil montre son visage. Vous connaissez Godot?

I hope he will come out for you!!
Yes I know the "pièce", I read it for High School :thud:

Except surprise, sun won't come today, but I cross fingers for tomorrow. If not for us, at least for cats. They miss it.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 08, 2018, 02:52:26 PM
First biweekly freebies by Daz are available for this year. List is here (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?topic=17898.0)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 08, 2018, 05:30:12 PM
Have all an excellent end of day!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 08, 2018, 05:33:38 PM
Have a good rest, Aelin.  Thanks very much for the new thread pointer!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 08, 2018, 05:41:12 PM
Just wanted to let y'all know I've finally finished the 2018 Girls From T.N.A. Calendar. It's pdf format, 115mb 300dpi - suitable for printing or scaring off snakey-haired nurses. Enjoy!

http://www.rodslair.com/TNA_2018.pdf

Very very cool looking...will print it out tomorrow night....Thanks RodS......
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 08, 2018, 05:58:29 PM
Good night and sweet dreams, Aelin! Thank you for the link above.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 08, 2018, 05:59:14 PM
Talented.....


https://youtu.be/eFhcogOmFds
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 08, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
Sorry about being MIA Girls and Boys but was busy getting something done for Judy.

She asked if I had any photos of Laverne when he helped me set up the Company Picnics and when he helped run the Kids Games at our Company PicNics.  And of course I did....  I had her go through the 15 albums I had of our Company Picnics and had her pick the ones she wanted.  After we had about 50 pics chosen I scanned them into the puter and I've been in the process of Photo Editing them.  Pictures back then were not the greatest....so I'm keeping my PSP busy.

Then tomorrow I'll put the on a DVD and they will show them with captions on their big screen TV at the Moose Hall.  Had to call my friend Karen, who's the Chapter President, to make sure they have a DVD player first LOL....  The TV is an older one so it didn't have any USB ports...Otherwise I would have put the Slide Show on a MemStick.

After all are edited I told her I'll print copies of them all on photo paper...

I have photo paper, a photo trimmer...just got to get more ink.

But that's been my Sunday...and part of today.

Had to take Lorna to the Dentist this morning...Only to get their and find out the appointment will have to be rescheduled since the Insurance Company she has is having problems with their 2018 setup on the Computer.  Not sure what that's all about....but I'm sure Lorna and the Insurance Company will figure it out....I'm just the driver LOLOL....


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 08, 2018, 06:06:23 PM
Yes I know the "pièce", I read it for High School :thud:

Except surprise, sun won't come today, but I cross fingers for tomorrow. If not for us, at least for cats. They miss it.

Had to look that up as it was quite off the cuff for me but once found it was quite an interesting analogy.

We had no sun here all clouds but the temps were up and no rain so calling that a win weather wise.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 08, 2018, 06:09:22 PM
Talented.....


https://youtu.be/eFhcogOmFds

She had my attention for 5 minutes and 14 seconds  LOLOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 08, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
Have all an excellent end of day!


Thanks for the things I'll be gathering later on LOLOL..... Have a great night....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 08, 2018, 06:17:53 PM
Talented.....


https://youtu.be/eFhcogOmFds (https://youtu.be/eFhcogOmFds)

With extraordinary muscle control and then there is a bit of the :hubbahubba: factor to add in :iminnocent:

Best get the :rowrow: and the :rain-rain: out
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 08, 2018, 06:43:22 PM
Sorry about being MIA Girls and Boys but was busy getting something done for Judy.

She asked if I had any photos of Laverne when he helped me set up the Company Picnics and when he helped run the Kids Games at our Company PicNics.  And of course I did....  I had her go through the 15 albums I had of our Company Picnics and had her pick the ones she wanted.  After we had about 50 pics chosen I scanned them into the puter and I've been in the process of Photo Editing them.  Pictures back then were not the greatest....so I'm keeping my PSP busy.

Then tomorrow I'll put the on a DVD and they will show them with captions on their big screen TV at the Moose Hall.  Had to call my friend Karen, who's the Chapter President, to make sure they have a DVD player first LOL....  The TV is an older one so it didn't have any USB ports...Otherwise I would have put the Slide Show on a MemStick.

After all are edited I told her I'll print copies of them all on photo paper...

I have photo paper, a photo trimmer...just got to get more ink.

But that's been my Sunday...and part of today.

Had to take Lorna to the Dentist this morning...Only to get their and find out the appointment will have to be rescheduled since the Insurance Company she has is having problems with their 2018 setup on the Computer.  Not sure what that's all about....but I'm sure Lorna and the Insurance Company will figure it out....I'm just the driver LOLOL....


That's nice you have those for her TL. I'm sure they'll mean a lot to her.

Yes, that young lady certainly will grab your attention! Mahvelously in control!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 08, 2018, 06:56:11 PM
That's nice you have those for her TL. I'm sure they'll mean a lot to her.

Yes, that young lady certainly will grab your attention! Mahvelously in control!

Yes Ray....she did appreciate it....and it was good for the soul here also.  A reminder how one minute you are and the next minute you may not be. 

They are waiting for the Autopsy report to come back to see the cause.  That is what happened when my Linda passed away.  Fine that night...gone the next morning...with not a clue as to what happened until the report came back. 

Anyway....all of the PSP work has been a HUGE strain on the eyes so I'm thinking I'll gather what I can in here and then head out.  I'll be back on tomorrow night most likely.  Still got 23 photos to get done.  But the again...I always say I'll "Most Likely won't be here" and I show up anyway  :tearlaugh:

We shall see...

But my eyes were good enough to catch those precision moves by that dancer.  Those damn things were standing AT attention at one point LOLOLOL

Have a great night and thanks for the WOW...I needed that......   :mwah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 08, 2018, 07:08:16 PM
Well...either ya're or ya'rent :winks: We'll see you when ya're - LOL.

You're welcome!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 08, 2018, 07:25:25 PM
As you can see...I'm still here....that darn Aelin and her freebies.....LOVE HER and THEM..... As they say "Gettum while the getting is good"
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 08, 2018, 07:32:28 PM
Talented.....


https://youtu.be/eFhcogOmFds (https://youtu.be/eFhcogOmFds)

GOODNESS Gracious ME!  This woman IS talented and so very Sensual!   WOW!  Thanks Ray, enjoyed her dancing very much!   :yippee:
(added) and THIS is one to watch in FULL SCREEN!   SO Sensual, lithe and graceful.  I am impressed!
and still smiling about it.   :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 08, 2018, 08:10:37 PM
Had to look that up as it was quite off the cuff for me but once found it was quite an interesting analogy.

We had no sun here all clouds but the temps were up and no rain so calling that a win weather wise.

ah HAH!   So YOU swiped all our clouds!    Past few days have been crystal clear blue skies with the occasional fluffy floater drifting by.   Now it is probably getting cloudy getting ready for temps in the teens with a dash of snow to season it all.   Been a very mild winter up here for sure.   Today was up almost to 60°F and still very dry.   What can I say, I just live here, don't control anything!
 :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 08, 2018, 08:12:05 PM
As you can see...I'm still here....that darn Aelin and her freebies.....LOVE HER and THEM..... As they say "Gettum while the getting is good"
 

She put together a fine list of freebies over at DAZ today.   NOTE:  that Stephanie 6 Starter Bundle *IS* for Poser too!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 08, 2018, 08:37:18 PM
Indeed Indeed......she does us all good when it comes to freebies....which is why I thank her after each
 one I download.....  :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 09, 2018, 04:15:32 AM
 

She put together a fine list of freebies over at DAZ today.   NOTE:  that Stephanie 6 Starter Bundle *IS* for Poser too!

Sorry disagree, it requires both the Genesis figure and the DSON abomination to use it which therefore, means in my world, that it is not for Poser. Reason being in the past one did not need a second program to use a product in Poser, period.


It can be used in Poser if certain conditions are met which is not the same thing as being for Poser ... I know lawyers quibbles

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 06:10:58 AM
Sorry disagree, it requires both the Genesis figure and the DSON abomination to use it which therefore, means in my world, that it is not for Poser. Reason being in the past one did not need a second program to use a product in Poser, period.


It can be used in Poser if certain conditions are met which is not the same thing as being for Poser ... I know lawyers quibbles

Agreed 100%. I don't consider anything that must use DSON 'for Poser'. Gen 4s do not require DSON.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 07:13:13 AM
Use fbx export in DS to get G3 and it's over priced addons into any Pro version of  PP2014, Game Dev, PP11 or PP11.1 It can be problematic with footwear as it doesn't even travel well between the G-things in DS.

It works the opposite way to get PE into DS. Set up your figure and export fbx to use in DS. PE was never made to accept DAZ tech though so there are some problematic issues.

The programs are different and cater to different audiences. OBJ files are universal. Both use uv mapping to place textures in the form of diffuse, transparency, normal, and the like on that obj. Same with Blender.

When more than 90% of you are rendering stills it really doesn't matter what software you use. You have an obj and a texture file. If you need compatible rigging fbx works for in all three if your software versions are up to date.
 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 07:17:36 AM
 

She put together a fine list of freebies over at DAZ today.   NOTE:  that Stephanie 6 Starter Bundle *IS* for Poser too!

Steph 6 can be *used* in Poser with kludges. Same as any G-thing. I was gifted her when she first came out in order to get me to promote the G2 series as Poser ready now that the original G-thing was being cut as a mistake in company direction using a single master mesh.

PS: Anyone remember the grey shapeless blob thatsent out as the promo add for the original G-thing?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 09, 2018, 07:24:27 AM
Had to look that up as it was quite off the cuff for me but once found it was quite an interesting analogy.

We had no sun here all clouds but the temps were up and no rain so calling that a win weather wise.
Today the sun is always missing here  :shrug: And now the rain starts :thud:

I see that some eyes were (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/Smileys/default/eyescan.gif) with a video
 :tearlaugh:

She put together a fine list of freebies over at DAZ today.   NOTE:  that Stephanie 6 Starter Bundle *IS* for Poser too!
If you use DSON yes. Otherwise, it's not. That's why for Genesis generations and their 'friends' I never add for Poser. But I have no doubt that everybody who is interested by Genesis figures in Poser will take a look on DSON or not.

TL, if I made a compilation of all thanks you do, I guess it's a complete book by trimester :psycho:

Good morning guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 07:32:17 AM
Mornig Aelin. A fine balmy -2 going up to 1. Snow melt is good.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:34:08 AM
Wait a sec.  EZSkin2 and 3 are separate programs, right?  No they really ARE.   D3D's Unhide Dials  is simply a Python script, not an external program.   DSON is an interpreter Python script IN Poser.  Not an external program like EZSkin 3, Morphing Clothes, and a pile of other ones we are glad to have and use day to day.
I used to roar fire and brimstone about DSON too, until a little sweet old lady twisted my arm and I tried it HER way.  Super easy, super simple and it worked.  DSON is a script for Poser that interprets the .DUF's for Poser.  At least that is what it seems to do.  That said, it is transparent to the User, we don't notice anything at all.  Yet, there is now the Genesis and Genesis 2 stuff, cool.   But I hate confusion, so I created a Runtime called "D:\3D Work DAZ People" which does NOT include A3, TY2, M4, V4 and K4.  Each of those Generation 3 and Generation 4 Figures has their own Runtime.   So then, Genesis and Genesis 2 are all in that DAZ People Runtime.  And the ONE G3F. 
It works for me, very easy and the Genesis 2 Figure does bend very well, is expressive etc. with just the Figure and Head and Body morphs for each, Male and Female.  I didn't have to buy a set of fix it morphs for it like I did for V4. 
I did mess with G3F one time, and that was to get a character I really liked a LOT by Forbidden Whispers LIVIA HD.  And with her done, I stopped.  Way too much trouble to get any Genesis 3 stuff into Poser.
Now, you all may feel that way about Genesis 2, and hey, it's allowed!  It's OK folks!  I GET you and I am happy you are happy.   Now, please be happy that *I* am happy too, please?  :o) 
I even make some pretty nice pics with G2F and V4/M4/K4/TY2/A3!    :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:40:46 AM
Mornig Aelin. A fine balmy -2 going up to 1. Snow melt is good.

   :shiv:

 :snowlady: :xmas: :snoglobe: :tree:

That be COLD up there PDG!  COLD! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:47:05 AM
Agreed 100%. I don't consider anything that must use DSON 'for Poser'. Gen 4s do not require DSON.

DSON is a script interpreter for .DUF files, and it puts the stuff it handles in our Library.  But true enough, A3, V-M-K 4 and the Animals all load "straight up" or "neat" as I've come to call it, but the DSON script IS needed for all the stuff that uses the DATA folder that DAZ went to beginning with Genesis.  That means a lot of props, architecture too, that need Poser Companion Files.
At least that does make it easy to get that stuff into Poser.  Now, when you save it back out as a Poser Figure, Pose or Prop or Material, it is no longer a DSON thing.  It is then pure Poser.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:50:31 AM
Use fbx export in DS to get G3 and it's over priced addons into any Pro version of  PP2014, Game Dev, PP11 or PP11.1 It can be problematic with footwear as it doesn't even travel well between the G-things in DS.

It works the opposite way to get PE into DS. Set up your figure and export fbx to use in DS. PE was never made to accept DAZ tech though so there are some problematic issues.

The programs are different and cater to different audiences. OBJ files are universal. Both use uv mapping to place textures in the form of diffuse, transparency, normal, and the like on that obj. Same with Blender.

When more than 90% of you are rendering stills it really doesn't matter what software you use. You have an obj and a texture file. If you need compatible rigging fbx works for in all three if your software versions are up to date.

Yup, there is that PDG.   It mostly works with PP 2014, and it DOES work with PP 11.   OH WOW, I just noticed that PP 11 inports/exports ZBrush !   KEWL!   Thanks for having me go look n see about FBX, PDG!
 :yippee: :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 09, 2018, 07:53:16 AM
Mornig Aelin. A fine balmy -2 going up to 1. Snow melt is good.
-2, celsius or Fahrenheit? Here it's 43°F, a little less when the wind blows but not so bad.
Forecast says now we'll have sun Thursday and Friday. If they are as good as for yesterday  :puah:

DSON is a script interpreter for .DUF files, and it puts the stuff it handles in our Library.  But true enough, A3, V-M-K 4 and the Animals all load "straight up" or "neat" as I've come to call it, but the DSON script IS needed for all the stuff that uses the DATA folder that DAZ went to beginning with Genesis.  That means a lot of props, architecture too, that need Poser Companion Files.
At least that does make it easy to get that stuff into Poser.  Now, when you save it back out as a Poser Figure, Pose or Prop or Material, it is no longer a DSON thing.  It is then pure Poser.
And the DUF only (or DUF with DSON) is the reason for why a lot of great architectural stuff isn't in my product library.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 07:56:02 AM
Wait a sec.  EZSkin2 and 3 are separate programs, right?  No they really ARE.   D3D's Unhide Dials  is simply a Python script, not an external program.   DSON is an interpreter Python script IN Poser.  Not an external program like EZSkin 3, Morphing Clothes, and a pile of other ones we are glad to have and use day to day.
I used to roar fire and brimstone about DSON too, until a little sweet old lady twisted my arm and I tried it HER way.  Super easy, super simple and it worked.  DSON is a script for Poser that interprets the .DUF's for Poser.  At least that is what it seems to do.  That said, it is transparent to the User, we don't notice anything at all.  Yet, there is now the Genesis and Genesis 2 stuff, cool.   But I hate confusion, so I created a Runtime called "D:\3D Work DAZ People" which does NOT include A3, TY2, M4, V4 and K4.  Each has their own Runtime.   
It works for me, very easy and the Genesis 2 Figure does bend very well, is expressive etc. with just the Figure and Head and Body morphs for each, Male and Female.  I did mess with G3F one time, and that was to get a character I really liked a LOT by Forbidden Whispers LIVIA HD.  And with her I stopped.  Way too much trouble to get any Genesis 3 stuff into Poser.
Now, you all may feel that way about Genesis 2, and hey, it's allowed!  It's OK folks!  I GET you and I am happy you are happy.   Now, please be happy that *I* am happy too, please?  :o)

Right off the hop you are misinformed. DSON is a DAZs version of a JSON interpreter that fits into Poser's addon framework. It is not "IN" Poser nor is it a Python script it is a Java script and some people will not run Java on their machines for security reasons. That aside, I posted a single post tutorial that shows how to get everything G and G2 into Poser. Three or four simple steps and you are good to go. Nobody said it couldn't be done. I am glad you have it working.

You said the G3 was unacceptable in it's complexity as to getting it into Poser. Pay attention. Export G-anything from DS as fbx and it works in any version of PP2014 Game Dev and later. No one says stay away from DAZ. G-things are evil and a failure. I simply stated a way for you to get all your DAZ content into Poser.

You wined about PE at the SM forums and were gifted the complete figure. What do you need this time?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 07:58:07 AM
-2, celsius or Fahrenheit? Here it's 43°F, a little less when the wind blows but not so bad.
Forecast says now we'll have sun Thursday and Friday. If they are as good as for yesterday  :puah:
And the DUF only (or DUF with DSON) is the reason for why a lot of great architectural stuff isn't in my product library.

Celsius. 20 degrees warmer than yesterday.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 09, 2018, 07:59:20 AM
:panic: That is a lot of difference from a day to another!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 08:01:25 AM
Hummmmm....
Says here I'm a SR member now.
I liked it better when I was taking root. I am a gardener after all. :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 08:01:48 AM
Steph 6 can be *used* in Poser with kludges. Same as any G-thing. I was gifted her when she first came out in order to get me to promote the G2 series as Poser ready now that the original G-thing was being cut as a mistake in company direction using a single master mesh.

PS: Anyone remember the grey shapeless blob thatsent out as the promo add for the original G-thing?

You mean the Victoria 5 April Fools Day Preview joke?

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 08:03:06 AM
Yeah, the graylien!  No textures, and it did look blobby.   Flattened out by a renegade Bus real nice though!  A V4 saw the whole thing! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 08:08:06 AM
PS - I do not like Genesis 1 much at all.   I DO like Genesis 2 pretty well though.   But not so thrilled by the way it is implemented.   Ergo-the DATA thang.  Separates from Poser.  Bleah on that part. 

A thing of note about the G-figures and their use of the DATA structures.   When you load up any Genesis 2 Figure now, whatever Genesis 2 morph, characters and such now simply loads with the Figure.  No more INJ'ecting morphs.  They load automatically when the geometry is read. 
I betcha PDG knows this stuff!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 08:11:57 AM
@ PDG - yessir, means you are Firmly Rooted!  You cannot leave the Attic, never ever ever!   So when you get to 1000 I think it means 100' taproot and superglued upper!  You ain't goin noplace bud!   :yippee:

You're gonna grow into the woodwork like everyone else with 5 grand or more!   :puah: :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 08:14:42 AM
I also know that unless you place each body shape into it's own separate folder then all the morphs and body shapes you have load with each G-thing you place into your scene. It can slow Poser to a crawl with all the unnecessary overhead from morphs and body shapes you are not using on that particular figure at that moment.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 09, 2018, 08:17:40 AM
Good Morning!


It is 6:14 am and raining here, and has been since yesterday.  The high will be 52 degrees F and the low will be 45 degrees.  There is presently a 90 percent chance of rain and will be declining around 5 pm.   Tomorrow it will be sunny.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 08:18:35 AM
Today the sun is always missing here  :shrug: And now the rain starts :thud:

I see that some eyes were (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/Smileys/default/eyescan.gif) with a video
 :tearlaugh:
If you use DSON yes. Otherwise, it's not. That's why for Genesis generations and their 'friends' I never add for Poser. But I have no doubt that everybody who is interested by Genesis figures in Poser will take a look on DSON or not.

TL, if I made a compilation of all thanks you do, I guess it's a complete book by trimester :psycho:

Good morning guys!

Aw c'mon, we can be more specific than that!  Ha!  Oh, first, Good Morning Aelin!   Next, yes ya gotta have DSON installed.  Next, I leave Genesis 1 alone, it don't act quite right.  Something just WRONG with that Figure.   Maybe cause it's unisex or something.  It is both male and female.
Genesis 2 has separate Male and Female, and can look spectacular with just the regular Head and Body Morphs by DAZ.  Yeah most of the time you have to buy that pair of morph packs, for both Male and Female.   Sort of like Morphs ++ for Gen4.   With those though, you get some great looks.
But there are LOTS more useful morph packs, including creature creator.   Ok I'm gonna shut up now about all the DSON stuff.  Folks either like it or despise it.   Simple.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 09, 2018, 08:19:56 AM
Hummmmm....
Says here I'm a SR member now.
I liked it better when I was taking root. I am a gardener after all. :thumb_up:
And when you were a Garden Gnome? :pervy:
It's because you are approaching of 500 messages. Well you have always a good way to ride. But after that you'll enter in the 'club', and with that step it will be time to find you a nickname  :heeheehee:

I liked Genesis (first generation) mainly because I could have kids. Not so much after that.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 09, 2018, 08:21:21 AM
Good Morning!


It is 6:14 am and raining here, and has been since yesterday.  The high will be 52 degrees F and the low will be 45 degrees.  There is presently a 90 percent chance of rain and will be declining around 5 pm.   Tomorrow it will be sunny.
Hi MC!
Can I exchange your tomorrow sun with my tomorrow rain? :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 09, 2018, 08:29:10 AM
Hi MC!
Can I exchange your tomorrow sun with my tomorrow rain? :iminnocent:


I don't know how you can do it, but OK living in the desert rain is not very common and can be a welcome sight.  Except when we have to much of it and we get flash floods. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 09, 2018, 08:33:05 AM
So those who are east of my location can expect rain in a day or two depending if it goes northeast or southeast.  Unless Aelin figures out how to get the weather there over in Europe. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 08:34:32 AM
Use fbx export in DS to get G3 and it's over priced addons into any Pro version of  PP2014, Game Dev, PP11 or PP11.1 It can be problematic with footwear as it doesn't even travel well between the G-things in DS.

It works the opposite way to get PE into DS. Set up your figure and export fbx to use in DS. PE was never made to accept DAZ tech though so there are some problematic issues.

The programs are different and cater to different audiences. OBJ files are universal. Both use uv mapping to place textures in the form of diffuse, transparency, normal, and the like on that obj. Same with Blender.

When more than 90% of you are rendering stills it really doesn't matter what software you use. You have an obj and a texture file. If you need compatible rigging fbx works for in all three if your software versions are up to date.


Why mess with it? Why go through all of that just to use G3 - another figure - when like you say we're mostly doing renders of figures and scenes?


If I were going to mess with anything like that, it would be PE, but she IS made for Poser, in Poser.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 08:36:47 AM
So those who are east of my location can expect rain in a day or two depending if it goes northeast or southeast.  Unless Aelin figures out how to get the weather her over in Europe.

We're being told snow  on Wednesday as of yesterday. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 08:57:24 AM

Why mess with it? Why go through all of that just to use G3 - another figure - when like you say we're mostly doing renders of figures and scenes?


If I were going to mess with anything like that, it would be PE, but she IS made for Poser, in Poser.

I don't use G-anything. I am a Poser user. My personal gripes with DAZ have stopped me doing business with them since long before the Gen4 figures. Same with their props. I just don't shop there. That does not mean I won't help folk trying to get the Grey Gollum into Poser even though I personally don't see the point of it either.

PE is designed for Poser but she was made in Max. She was rigged in poser.

Blender's Make Human figures can be rigged in Poser.

I make figures in Lightwave and rig them in Poser.

I morph figures in zBrush. Those morphs are used in Poser though they could be used as morphs in DS or shape keys in Blender.

It all comes down to the obj. Rig it any way you want to work in anything you want or just use the fbx format and the rigging is basically transferred with the obj.

I paint textures in Substance for use in Poser. Those same textures are exactly the same for DS use with the exception of the Normal map. In fact I use iRay for test renders of my shaders knowing they will be exactly the same in Superfly. I have posted side by side comparisons before.

It's not the paintbrush. It's not the subject. It's not your paintbox. It's the ability to achieve your vision of the subject using your paintbrush and your box of paints. We share brushes, paint, and models in RL. Why should 3D be any different. Express yourself in whatever way floats your boat and be glad that you can communicate your inner vision to the world.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 09, 2018, 08:58:00 AM
Well I see everyone later have been up since yesterday at 11:00 am this rain is starting to get me sleepy. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 09, 2018, 08:59:20 AM
Well I see everyone later have been up since yesterday at 11:00 am this rain is starting to get me sleepy.
Good night
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 09:19:38 AM
Really, PE was gifted to someone who doesn't appreciate her? Pfffttt. :thud:



 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 09:20:33 AM
Well I see everyone later have been up since yesterday at 11:00 am this rain is starting to get me sleepy.

Good night to you M-C. Sleep well in the rain!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 11:28:17 AM
Ok I'm gonna shut up now about all the DSON stuff.  Folks either like it or despise it.   Simple.

I'm ecstatic for you that you like to and can use G2, and DSON McG. However, how you and I and anyone else in here does what we do is our own 'recipe' for it and it isn't any better or worse than anything else.

If I wanted DAZ on my pc, I'd have put it on there a long time ago. I made a decision NOT to do that for my own reasons. If I wanted to use G2 or G3 I'd put DAZ on my pc.

I don't despise DSON, I just choose NOT to use it. Period. Yes, it is simple. I don't need it to do what I do or want to do.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 09, 2018, 12:58:46 PM

j e sus ...........5 pages since last here


must be a time warp :tearlaugh: or maybe ya'll awake when I sleeping  :kissie:


Ray I no idea why we called tykes .......some parts on UK is an insult, other parts its from the Humber to the Tyne
but most think of tykes as Yorkshire .....wiki suggests its from old Norse name for a bitch (dog not wife) or a DOG the real one 4 legs
other ideas is a name for dialect we talk


promise will never call you *i* now we "broke" ice .....ps NEVER put the ice in my whiskey [yes I prefer Irish lol ]
agin as a yorkie we call them wraiths ..........oh so scary .NOT ..........more afraid of bankers and taxman  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 09, 2018, 01:06:13 PM

MacG........as other said I happy you like daz and stuff to make that work in poser


but for me blender is king (one ring rules all)
only use poser for posing a doll ....then its in blender  :tearlaugh:
and don't do that as often as I used to


we all evolve and find our own ways to make funny pics / art /videos whatever you want to call it  :shrug:

how about a tutorial on how you do it ?? you could help lots of peoples  :mwah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 09, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
j e sus ...........5 pages since last here

Hedd what should I say once the specialties of the season are over, if ever? Once my temperature drops back to reasonable, my throat doesn't feel like sandpaper anymore and I stop coughing my lungs off and sneezing till I've to clean the monitor to see what's on it?

Gonna be at least 20-25 pages... if I'm lucky :grin:
 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 09, 2018, 03:10:41 PM

goto profile ..my posts


saves a lot of searches  :shrug:


you got this upside down flu then ??.........looks nasty


maybe take walking stick if I have to go out ........keep peeps at MORE then arms length :tearlaugh: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 09, 2018, 03:25:51 PM
maybe take walking stick if I have to go out ........keep peeps at MORE then arms length :tearlaugh: 

No need - just sneeze a couple of times and they'll give you a wide berth anyway :(ROFLMAO:

I'm nearly tempted to sacrifice myself for the good of you all: send me Kianna and... just one sensual kiss and she'll be out of business for a week or so, bedridden, weak like a newborn baby... and alone! :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 09, 2018, 03:32:09 PM


but for me blender is king (one ring rules all)


Oh, good... Now I know who to bug while I try to wrap my head around it..... 'What isssss it, precious?'  :tearlaugh:

Seriously, thanks to Aelin for the heads-up on the freebies! You rock!  :yes: :thumb_up:

I did pick up Steph 6, but I'll just use her on my DAZ machine... Poser (PP2014) is my main go-to, but I've been playing with DAZ a bit as well.. Also just downloaded the free version of the Evolution chick - will give her an 'audition' in a day or three... I'll play with (almost) anything at least once. And I did say "almost" so don't let you-know-who get any  :pervy: ideas, J...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 09, 2018, 03:38:21 PM
i use poser V3 V4 and aiko  Jessie  don't use  ds or dson  don't like them and don't care for the  new G's they have out  but if daz and such is your  chosen  program  then  go for  it and  create your  art
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 09, 2018, 03:53:40 PM
Oh, good... Now I know who to bug while I try to wrap my head around it..... 'What isssss it, precious?'  :tearlaugh:

Seriously, thanks to Aelin for the heads-up on the freebies! You rock!  :yes: :thumb_up:

I did pick up Steph 6, but I'll just use her on my DAZ machine... Poser (PP2014) is my main go-to, but I've been playing with DAZ a bit as well.. Also just downloaded the free version of the Evolution chick - will give her an 'audition' in a day or three... I'll play with (almost) anything at least once. And I did say "almost" so don't let you-know-who get any  :pervy: ideas, J...
PE, one more member in your team? :iminnocent:

You're welcome for freebies; all kind of freebies (not just Daz, Smith Micro, Renderosity...) everyday added... and you can listen externals of TL crying when the list is too much long  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 04:31:55 PM
j e sus ...........5 pages since last here


must be a time warp :tearlaugh: or maybe ya'll awake when I sleeping  :kissie:


Ray I no idea why we called tykes .......some parts on UK is an insult, other parts its from the Humber to the Tyne
but most think of tykes as Yorkshire .....wiki suggests its from old Norse name for a bitch (dog not wife) or a DOG the real one 4 legs
other ideas is a name for dialect we talk


promise will never call you *i* now we "broke" ice .....ps NEVER put the ice in my whiskey [yes I prefer Irish lol ]
agin as a yorkie we call them wraiths ..........oh so scary .NOT ..........more afraid of bankers and taxman  :tearlaugh:

I solemnly swear I will never put ice in your whiskey - Irish or otherwise.

So, I can see where that would be an insult if you took it one way. Seems you have a clash of Mercian and Northumbrian dialects there - or did. I suppose that would put the Vikings off a bit. Lol.

Well, whatever you call them they supposedly got small and went to live in the barrows.... Boo. Bankers, taxmen and politicians are definitely scarier!.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 04:36:24 PM
Oh, good... Now I know who to bug while I try to wrap my head around it..... 'What isssss it, precious?'  :tearlaugh:

Seriously, thanks to Aelin for the heads-up on the freebies! You rock!  :yes: :thumb_up:

I did pick up Steph 6, but I'll just use her on my DAZ machine... Poser (PP2014) is my main go-to, but I've been playing with DAZ a bit as well.. Also just downloaded the free version of the Evolution chick - will give her an 'audition' in a day or three... I'll play with (almost) anything at least once. And I did say "almost" so don't let you-know-who get any  :pervy: ideas, J...

Well that's how you do it if you want to play with both. Right Rod...just sort of go over to the dark side on side trips :winks: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 04:37:36 PM
Hedd what should I say once the specialties of the season are over, if ever? Once my temperature drops back to reasonable, my throat doesn't feel like sandpaper anymore and I stop coughing my lungs off and sneezing till I've to clean the monitor to see what's on it?

Gonna be at least 20-25 pages... if I'm lucky :grin:

Feel better soon Chiron! :peek:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 09, 2018, 04:44:55 PM

Snow in the Sahara Desert 2018 cold wave on the globe.


We need co2 for plants so they can breath create O2 for us to breath. 

https://youtu.be/oO-BC-_Ke1s
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 09, 2018, 05:15:48 PM
I hadn't pay attention earlier for Chiron :hypno: Yes, take care of you!

Excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 09, 2018, 06:15:18 PM
PE, one more member in your team? :iminnocent:

You're welcome for freebies; all kind of freebies (not just Daz, Smith Micro, Renderosity...) everyday added... and you can listen externals of TL crying when the list is too much long  :tearlaugh:

My externals are about to jump off the shelf and beat me with a stick..... I've been giving them plenty of exercise today trying to organize this massive mess of stuff I've downloaded from about 25 - 30 different sites. I keep finding stuff I didn't know I had. Then I load it into a temporary runtime in Poser to see if it works. Then I get distracted with it, and there goes at least a couple hours..... No wonder I can't get anything done!  :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 09, 2018, 06:19:41 PM
Well that's how you do it if you want to play with both. Right Rod...just sort of go over to the dark side on side trips :winks: :tearlaugh:

Hey, I'm a 'Gray Jedi' so I can play on the dark side every now and then... Speaking of...... We went to see 'Last Jedi' yesterday.. I loved it! SFX were awesome, and I loved some of the twists in the story. Didn't expect a couple things to happen, (I don't think Snoke did, either..LOL) but it was great.

OK... Back to organizing....... Gah....  :puah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 09, 2018, 06:59:02 PM
Chiron, I hope that you get better soon.  Fever is a dangerous partner when trying to do anything that requires thinking.  I once wrote an assembler while I had a high fever.  I spent the next two years debugging it.   :tearlaugh:

Good night, Aelin.  Rest well!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:10:29 PM
j e sus ...........5 pages since last here


must be a time warp :tearlaugh: or maybe ya'll awake when I sleeping  :kissie:

(snip snip!)

 

TIMEWARP ?!?!? Says he... Timewarp he SAID IT!   HERE it IS straight from the Rocky Horror Picture Show!!!!  YAAAAY!   :yippee: :crazysmile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkplPbd2f60)

Oh what a thing to wake me up to!   :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 09, 2018, 07:22:28 PM
I'm glad someone else did that.  My hand twitched towards the Post button, but I resisted.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:39:01 PM
Oh you don't have to Sir Knight!   I would have enjoyed that one no matter who snapped the reference!  Ha!   It was an early taste of a number of actors and entertainers when they were YOUNG!   Susan Sarandon anyone?  Hmm?  And who even guessed that Tim Curry could sing?   HA!   :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:42:50 PM
Hey TL, I found something that works without electricity for keeping drinks warm quite a while.  Stainless vacuum insulated tumbler!   I made this cup of COFFEE an hour ago and it's STILL HOT!   Liking that a bunch!   $8 at Dollar General.   Now I wonder where they hid the stainless vacuum insulated COFFEE mugs?  Gotta be round there somewhere!   :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:49:54 PM
I dunno why I woke up at 6:30 pm in such a good mood.  Part of it is that I woke up at all!  Always a good thing hey?   I did buy PE.   AND I am still downloading ALL those files ya gotta have to get the new content what goes with PP 11.1.  I didn't realize that I needed that to see the new Pauline/Paul v2 Figures.  And some other things.  So, doing that now.  I will have to reinstall PP 11.1 too.  Ah well, such is life!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 07:51:08 PM

And I wanted to make a big to do about the fact that you don't have to have DS installed to use DSON. I decided to play it down nice and easy.   So I don't use DS.  I (we) all use DAZ3D content routinely.   DSON simply expands that a little bit more for me.  That is all it does.  It does not compel me to keep DS installed at all.   And I reckon that's a good thing.   :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 09, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
Hey, I'm a 'Gray Jedi' so I can play on the dark side every now and then... Speaking of...... We went to see 'Last Jedi' yesterday.. I loved it! SFX were awesome, and I loved some of the twists in the story. Didn't expect a couple things to happen, (I don't think Snoke did, either..LOL) but it was great.

OK... Back to organizing....... Gah....  :puah:

My friends saw it too and they liked it. I'd heard there were a few twists. Glad you enjoyed it, Rod! :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 09, 2018, 08:44:43 PM
Yeah, there's still a few questions, but a lot of things were cleared up in this segment. Don't want to spill any spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen it, but it was quite a ride.  :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
Yeah, there's still a few questions, but a lot of things were cleared up in this segment. Don't want to spill any spoilers for anyone who hasn't seen it, but it was quite a ride.  :thumb_up:

Oooh I can't wait till it comes out on BluRay!   That and Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle!

Glad you liked it.   So it can keep moving the story on to another sequel?   :D

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 09, 2018, 10:03:41 PM
Oh, yeah.... They're doing the next one in the trilogy - Episode 9. I'm not sure how they're going to handle the Leia Organa part since we lost Carrie Fisher. But there's a lot of loose ends to tie up.

Mark my words.... Kylo Ren will turn from the dark side - just before he dies... That's my big prediction...

 :ghost: <----------- Closest thing I could find to a Jedi-ish dude...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 09, 2018, 10:41:45 PM
Was wondering why i was getting no notifications of new messages being posted in this thread, so I paid the thread a visit and found the old one locked for comments. Then I looked for the new one, and found it here.


33 pages already?!! My, you've all been busy! :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 10:48:28 PM
Yeah Cleve, we did turn a new page as it were!  :)   Happy New Year!

 :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 10:54:43 PM
I'm actually glad that Star Wars is continuing with new films and story.  Yes, we lost The Gold Bikini girl.  Sadly.   Carrie might not have been the most popular actress, but she was pretty good regardless.  It is cool that Mark Hammil is still with us.  Can ya believe how much some of these people have aged?  I say that then see my Santa Claus avatar.  EEK!  Hair is getting long enough to stay brushed back on its own.  Might just keep it long a while yet.   It's a shame we lost Han.  I mean he was an icon, a real fixture in the series!
Can't wait to see it for sure!  But Kylo doing the Darth thing, his grandfather?  Too pat!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 09, 2018, 10:57:28 PM
Poser/Poser Pro 11.1

If you want to see the new content, you gotta download ALL those installers and also reinstall PP 11 as the other updaters won't run unless ya do.  Took me all afternoon and evening!  But I do have it all installed and updated now.  PP 11.1 is happy with its new content.  Pauline 2.  Uh.  Yeah.  Right back to V4 and G2F thank ya very MUCH!  :o)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 10, 2018, 01:11:00 AM
Was wondering why i was getting no notifications of new messages being posted in this thread, so I paid the thread a visit and found the old one locked for comments. Then I looked for the new one, and found it here.


33 pages already?!! My, you've all been busy! :shrug:

Yeah, we're a chatty bunch it seems... Especially when you fuel us up with  :java: ..... Or get me talking (typing) about Star Wars...  :yes:

Good to see ya, Cleve!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 10, 2018, 08:41:11 AM
Good morning guys!
I was ready to come on computer, and suddenly something the forecast weather didn't seen came: the sun!!!!  :happydance: First time of the year!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 10, 2018, 09:43:16 AM
Good morning guys!
I was ready to come on computer, and suddenly something the forecast weather didn't seen came: the sun!!!!  :happydance: First time of the year!


Good Morning,


I guess you figured out how to get the weather from one place to another.  So you don't like the clouds.  I lived in Baumholder, Germany for a few years which is up in the mountains.   The clouds were around more than the sun, I think we would get abot 10 to 15 days of sunshine a year up there.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 10, 2018, 09:46:02 AM
Hi M-C!
I can like clouds, specially during hard Summers. But no sun since last day of 2017 that was hard!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 10, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
Will be back later have another doctors appointment.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 12:11:20 PM
My externals are about to jump off the shelf and beat me with a stick..... I've been giving them plenty of exercise today trying to organize this massive mess of stuff I've downloaded from about 25 - 30 different sites. I keep finding stuff I didn't know I had. Then I load it into a temporary runtime in Poser to see if it works. Then I get distracted with it, and there goes at least a couple hours..... No wonder I can't get anything done!  :shrug:

And that's what happens when you retire.  You think you're going to organize everything you own in no time at all since you NOW have time.....but believe me....it doesn't work that way. 

You'll get to organizing and a Freebie will pop up somewhere from someone....and you go to grab it....and then you start looking around....and 3 basket loads later you have a TON more items to organize :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 12:14:54 PM
Hey TL, I found something that works without electricity for keeping drinks warm quite a while.  Stainless vacuum insulated tumbler!   I made this cup of COFFEE an hour ago and it's STILL HOT!   Liking that a bunch!   $8 at Dollar General.   Now I wonder where they hid the stainless vacuum insulated COFFEE mugs?  Gotta be round there somewhere!   :yippee:

I use mine for traveling LOL...and they do keep the coffee nice and hot.    But I like my warmers because I don't need my coffee super hot.  When in the service you got use to lukewarm coffee...and sometimes damn cold coffee LOL...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 12:37:42 PM
First off....Chiron...hope you get to feeling better.  Don't know if it's the flu you have but that is going around like wildfire here.....   

and good morning to the rest of you....Darn.....It's afternoon now.....Time really DOES go fast.

Anyway.  I totally forgot about this mornings Appt with my Diabetes Dietitian.   It was for 8AM and I would have been here earlier, but Collettes husband use to work with me at Industrial Combustion and we got to talking about Laverne.  Good memories... and in the end...she said I'm doing a good job watching my numbers and food intake. (Carbs, Fiber, Protein etc.....But wishes I would eat a wee bit more....LOL)

The visitation for Laverne went very well.  The slideshow and Judy's collage that she had made with the photos I printed out for her went over very well.  That place was packed.  The Funeral Home would not have been able to hold that many people. And it was a constant flow of people. 

Still sad to think he's gone...but so glad we all had such wonderful memories of him.

That got me to thinking.   How long do families remember the stories of their ancestors?  Famous folks are remembered in History books.  What about us?  Where are we remembered?  And for how long?

Anyway...It's been a busy time of late....but now I can relax for a bit....with :java: in hand.


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 10, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
ancestors live on in your heart and in your memories and the stories your grand parents have to tell so listen to them and pass the stories on to your children so they will know too
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 10, 2018, 01:00:59 PM
Good morning guys!
I was ready to come on computer, and suddenly something the forecast weather didn't seen came: the sun!!!!  :happydance: First time of the year!


:sunny: :happydance: for you, Aelin!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 01:01:58 PM
Yup....Sounds simple enough....but I still wonder how far back do the stories go that we are suppose to remember and pass on.  I, for one, can only go back as far as my Great Grandfather and his family on my Mothers Side....and my Great Great Grandmother's Family on my Fathers side.

I would say it's easier now to pass stories on since Photos and Vids have been around for quite a while....and you have a visual aid to help you remember the stories.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 01:04:01 PM

:sunny: :happydance: for you, Aelin!

Well, if you can dance with Aelin....so will I.....   :dk2: :dancingknight: :dk2: :sidetoside: :reluctant: :grenade: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 10, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
Good advice if and when you're young and they're still around. My grandparents are long gone, but I do remember some of the stories.

Your memories and telling them are all you really have.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 10, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Well, if you can dance with Aelin....so will I.....   :dk2: :dancingknight: :dk2: :sidetoside: :reluctant: :grenade: :tearlaugh:

It's just virtual dancing today. :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 01:14:05 PM
That's about all I can do nowadays anyway.  Tried doing the two step the other day and it ended up being the shuffle  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 10, 2018, 01:17:07 PM
shuffle  works  try the  shag  that  might be  better
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 10, 2018, 01:18:28 PM
Hey, as long as you don't fall over, it's all good - right?  :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 01:27:08 PM
Exactly LOLOL.....    One thing I've learned about having a kitten....You learn some damn cool dance steps while trying to avoid stepping on the critter.....  :thud:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 10, 2018, 01:29:30 PM
goes  for  dogs too  they do like to get under foot  too
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 10, 2018, 01:29:43 PM
And that's what happens when you retire.  You think you're going to organize everything you own in no time at all since you NOW have time.....but believe me....it doesn't work that way. 

You'll get to organizing and a Freebie will pop up somewhere from someone....and you go to grab it....and then you start looking around....and 3 basket loads later you have a TON more items to organize :tearlaugh:

That's why I have on computer a "DazPoser_download" folder. Where I have folders under FRM, Daz, CP, RMP, Sharecg... by artist. And a minimum of knowledge on who is who on sites. Often creators have specialities for their items.

Thanks for the dance guys! I hope that will bring the sun to come in sunrise for cats.

Exactly LOLOL.....    One thing I've learned about having a kitten....You learn some damn cool dance steps while trying to avoid stepping on the critter.....  :thud:
And one day or night, you fail to avoid the kitten and he starts 'to sing' in another way :thud:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 10, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
I think I woke at 3am this morning.  So tired now can't remember it!   :tearlaugh:   Time for a nap, nite!

 :ny-fathertime:   zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 01:47:38 PM
LOLOLOL......  Aelin.....Yup......I heard that Kitty Tune Before.......And it wasn't me that did the stepping....it was Lorna :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:

I tried doing that as I downloaded the freebies Aelin but it got to a point where the excitement of gathering the downloads overshadowed my common sense .....  That's my story...and I'm sticking to it  :java:

Go take a nap Mc-G.....enjoy....

And Yup Fafnir....Dogs are just as bad....and so are kids at times  LOLOLOL

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 10, 2018, 02:57:01 PM
And that's what happens when you retire.  You think you're going to organize everything you own in no time at all since you NOW have time.....but believe me....it doesn't work that way. 

You'll get to organizing and a Freebie will pop up somewhere from someone....and you go to grab it....and then you start looking around....and 3 basket loads later you have a TON more items to organize :tearlaugh:


Very true..... Or... Like yesterday, I got an email from Adam Thwaites - a new hottie character for V4,5,6,7, both Poser and DS. She's gorgeous, and on sale. Plus there's an additional discount code, so she's only $1.80. Can't possibly pass that up, so off I go. Meanwhile, I find a bunch more free stuff, poses, etc. I start downloading. The people from my cable company are in my front yard wailing, gnashing their teeth, and sacrificing small animals. My external drives just bought tickets to Tibet... My local Microcenter rolls out the red carpet and sprinkles it with palm leaves and rose petals when I pull into the parking lot....And the beat goes on...

This stuff is digital crack...... I'm tellin' ya....  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 03:10:04 PM
And that's how our days will go from now on  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:

The sad thing is.... I LOVE IT.....and I'm sure you do also.

Once someone asked me how do I catch the duplicate files....  I said.... "I don't.....they make themselves at home with the rest of the duplicates and triplicates and"......well...you get the picture LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 10, 2018, 03:44:14 PM
I use a trick to detect duplicate files but the only thing that it helps with is avoiding storing the duplicate.

I compute the MD5 checksum of the zip file, checking it against a database of MD5 checksums of previously downloaded files.  If it is the same as another and has a new name, I just record that this file may also be retrieved with that name as well.  Now, it's just barely possible that this might not work (it hasn't failed yet, since the early 2000's), so I actually stage the file into a byte by byte comparision workflow where it will get erased if it is indeed the same.  That happens in the background.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 10, 2018, 03:57:26 PM
And that's how our days will go from now on  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:

The sad thing is.... I LOVE IT.....and I'm sure you do also.

Once someone asked me how do I catch the duplicate files....  I said.... "I don't.....they make themselves at home with the rest of the duplicates and triplicates and"......well...you get the picture LOLOL


Heh... Is is sad, isn't it? But yeah, I love it! Then again, I guess that's why we're all in here; in these hallowed hallways dodging Dredzilla!  :tearlaugh: As my friend Faemike55 always says, "I'm not suffering from insanity - I'm enjoying every minute of it!"  :crazysmile: :yippee:

BTW - If you haven't checked the freebies over at Rendo in a while, Syltermermaid has been uploading a bunch of great quality V4 characters. I've got all of them so far, and they're all excellent. I've bought stuff that wasn't as good!  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 04:05:35 PM
Aelin has a spot in here just for those fantastic lovelies......Take a peek HERE (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?board=304.0)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 10, 2018, 04:23:40 PM
OMG.......

Well, if you don't hear anything from me until about July, You'll know why.....  :tearlaugh:

Man... I need to spend more time exploring around here.....  :OMFG:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 04:53:22 PM
Indeed...and that's just the tip of the iceburg LOLOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 10, 2018, 05:05:23 PM
OMG.......

Well, if you don't hear anything from me until about July, You'll know why.....  :tearlaugh:

Man... I need to spend more time exploring around here.....  :OMFG:
Only July? :pervy: Don't drown yourself, even if it's a risk :iminnocent:

Indeed...and that's just the tip of the iceburg LOLOLOL
Yes because a link can take you on a lot of others. Matriochka it is by a way  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 05:07:13 PM
And believe me...the roadmap is full of great places...and cool items.   Aelin has done a spectacular job of weeding out the deadbeats so most item links are spot on.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 10, 2018, 05:34:17 PM
 :shrug: sometimes it's just the chance if I find them.
But yes for RDNA it was necessary, even if I guess we have links always in some areas... Dark and strange areas  :puah:  :tearlaugh:
If you see links no longer available don't hesitate to say it in the topic where is the bad link. Either we find the same freebie on another site by the same creator, or the topic will end in archives.

Excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 10, 2018, 05:39:08 PM
:shrug: sometimes it's just the chance if I find them.
But yes for RDNA it was necessary, even if I guess we have links always in some areas... Dark and strange areas  :puah:  :tearlaugh:
If you see links no longer available don't hesitate to say it in the topic where is the bad link. Either we find the same freebie on another site by the same creator, or the topic will end in archives.

Excellent end of day guys!

Have a most excellent night Aelin.  Tomorrow I hit the gallery and do some catching up....and see if I can STAY caught up this time. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 10, 2018, 05:55:04 PM
:shrug: sometimes it's just the chance if I find them.
But yes for RDNA it was necessary, even if I guess we have links always in some areas... Dark and strange areas  :puah: :tearlaugh:
If you see links no longer available don't hesitate to say it in the topic where is the bad link. Either we find the same freebie on another site by the same creator, or the topic will end in archives.

Excellent end of day guys!

I humbly bow at your altar, Aelin! I knew you were the archeologist, but dang..... You make Indiana Jones look like an amateur!

Have a good night!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 10, 2018, 06:28:39 PM
Here's one I stumbled into...

Free HDRI images!

https://hdrihaven.com/

 :grenade:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 10, 2018, 06:55:15 PM
I humbly bow at your altar, Aelin! I knew you were the archeologist, but dang..... You make Indiana Jones look like an amateur!

Have a good night!

:allhail:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 10, 2018, 11:42:54 PM
Ohh GROAN.   Just one of  them days, ya wake up and feel rotten.  like I'm coming down with a bug again.   SO.  I got stuff to make hot soups, broths, some Benadryl, and freezing temps now through the weekend.  At least it could rain a bit!  But noooo, none of that in the forecast.  Sigh.  Gotta be miserable in pretty weather.  Well at least the weather IS pretty, and I saw one of the most gorgeous sunrises this morning, got to the window right as the color washed under the clouds turning them bright orange and red.  Wow.  Beautiful sight!   
OK so I'm UP, whisked through Aelins V4 freebies, found a few character sets I didn't already have. Nice finds Aelin!    Now to go figure out some more PE goodness!  :D
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 11, 2018, 08:00:36 AM
I humbly bow at your altar, Aelin! I knew you were the archeologist, but dang..... You make Indiana Jones look like an amateur!

Have a good night!
You have no idea  :dominatrix: :pervy:
Hum  :allhail: Maybe I can start with some priests for my altar  :tearlaugh:

Good morning guys!
Sun shines again even if we have always clouds like obstacles part of time. At least cats were able to profit a moment.

Here's one I stumbled into...

Free HDRI images!

https://hdrihaven.com/

 :grenade:
Not my discovery but one by Hedd (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?topic=17696.) some weeks ago.

 
OK so I'm UP, whisked through Aelins V4 freebies, found a few character sets I didn't already have. Nice finds Aelin!    Now to go figure out some more PE goodness!  :D
Thanks! Before me, I know Margy had a lot of discoveries too.
And now it's time to check what is new today  :heeheehee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 11, 2018, 09:08:33 AM
No wonder I felt so rotten.  -* SNOW *-   :ny-fathertime: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 11, 2018, 10:45:54 AM
I use a trick to detect duplicate files but the only thing that it helps with is avoiding storing the duplicate.

I compute the MD5 checksum of the zip file, checking it against a database of MD5 checksums of previously downloaded files.  If it is the same as another and has a new name, I just record that this file may also be retrieved with that name as well.  Now, it's just barely possible that this might not work (it hasn't failed yet, since the early 2000's), so I actually stage the file into a byte by byte comparision workflow where it will get erased if it is indeed the same.  That happens in the background.

Hummm....Never tried that....but worth a shot.  I have a number of Dup file finders but sometimes they miss the boat LOLOL....  Thanks for the tip Sir Knight
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 11, 2018, 01:19:55 PM

there is a dup file finder in ccleaner  (under tools)


its not bad, has a few options and you probably all ready have it


after an hour of tipple tails with gg'girl  :no_points: I decided I'm too old  :ny-fathertime:
think I put my back out somehow
oh  well a couple of nights sleeping on floor will sort that out  :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 11, 2018, 01:21:08 PM
Here's one I stumbled into...

Free HDRI images!

https://hdrihaven.com/ (https://hdrihaven.com/)

 :grenade:





Thanks for letting us know about this site.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 11, 2018, 01:25:22 PM
Good Morning,


Looks like another sunny day out here.  Presently 57 degrees F, with a high of 60 degrees, last night was about 35 degrees.  Low tonight will be about 46 degrees. 


Well time to get some coffee, take my pills and eat some food.


Be back later.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 11, 2018, 01:37:47 PM
Here's one I stumbled into...

Free HDRI images!

https://hdrihaven.com/

 :grenade:

Very very cool...Can't wait for you to stumble again  :java: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 11, 2018, 01:40:19 PM
Good Morning,


Looks like another sunny day out here.  Presently 57 degrees F, with a high of 60 degrees, last night was about 35 degrees.  Low tonight will be about 46 degrees. 


Well time to get some coffee, take my pills and eat some food.


Be back later.

Good Afternoon.   They let schools out here due to sleet.  And I'm about to go out in it to take the Daughter to work  :thud:

Oh well....I like adventures.....

Go have some more coffee M-C.   I'll return shortly...at least that's my plan  LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 11, 2018, 03:54:25 PM

Thanks for letting us know about this site.

You're most welcome! I'll be hitting that site a bit later today!  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 11, 2018, 03:55:28 PM

Very very cool...Can't wait for you to stumble again  :java: :tearlaugh:


Shouldn't take long for that.... I'll trip over my own feet as soon as I get out of my chair!  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 11, 2018, 03:56:59 PM
Good Morning,


Looks like another sunny day out here.  Presently 57 degrees F, with a high of 60 degrees, last night was about 35 degrees.  Low tonight will be about 46 degrees. 


Well time to get some coffee, take my pills and eat some food.


Be back later.

Cold and spitting snow here.... Good day for rendering, hunting freebies, listening to music, and  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 11, 2018, 05:16:09 PM
Excellent end of day guys! And take care!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 11, 2018, 06:49:22 PM
Pssst!  Aelin!  found a problem in the Store here.   That Snow Bike exclusive?  Click on it and just get Surannian Enchantments.  I can't find that Snow Bike anywhere!   And there is no Snow Bike in Glassy Ladys store either  :shrug: :cry2: :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 11, 2018, 07:31:55 PM
Summoner made that and I don't know why it isn't in the store. It should be as far as I know. I'll write and ask Mary what's up there.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 11, 2018, 07:37:32 PM
Where did you see it, just out of curiosity?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 11, 2018, 07:42:32 PM
M-Callahan, mayhaps I am late to the discovery you made, but it really is a treasure trove. Lot's of great HDRI images there, and that is something I really do need. Many thanks! :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 11, 2018, 07:45:51 PM
Pssst!  Aelin!  found a problem in the Store here.   That Snow Bike exclusive?  Click on it and just get Surannian Enchantments.  I can't find that Snow Bike anywhere!   And there is no Snow Bike in Glassy Ladys store either  :shrug: :cry2: :ny-fathertime:

Alright, I figured out where you saw it - on Mary's banner. You should have scrolled down and you would have seen it.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 11, 2018, 07:50:12 PM
That was RodS' find, Agent - the hdri site :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 11, 2018, 08:33:32 PM
That was RodS' find, Agent - the hdri site :winks:
I stand corrected. Thank you.


What I need now is a tutorial on how to import an HDRI into DAZ Studio. If anybody knows where I can find one, please post the link for me. I will appreciate it.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 11, 2018, 08:43:10 PM
I stand corrected. Thank you.


What I need now is a tutorial on how to import an HDRI into DAZ Studio. If anybody knows where I can find one, please post the link for me. I will appreciate it.

That's okay, I'm not all there myself this evening :c-cat:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 11, 2018, 08:45:11 PM
Okay...here's the links to the Snow Ski and to the Jet Ski for you:

https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/Designers/Summoner/Snow-Bike-Exclusive

https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/Designers/Summoner/Jet-Ski-Exclusive


I guess that page was not behaving so some things got changed. The links above will take you right to them, McG.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 11, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
Do these help Cleve?


http://docs.daz3d.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/public/read_me/index/21981/21981_quick-start-guide-to-the-iray-dome-and-the-use-of-hdris.pdf


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYCF5aui4s

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: RodS on January 11, 2018, 09:00:40 PM
I stand corrected. Thank you.


What I need now is a tutorial on how to import an HDRI into DAZ Studio. If anybody knows where I can find one, please post the link for me. I will appreciate it.

I think all you have to do is click the little image on the slider in 'RenderSettings>Environments' then navigate to wherever you keep the HDRIs... I did it once a few months ago, and I think that's how I did it. I'll give it a try after a bit, or maybe tomorrow... Got a render 'cooking' right now on the DAZ laptop, and working on T.N.A. on another machine!  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 11, 2018, 11:27:40 PM
Do these help Cleve?


http://docs.daz3d.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/public/read_me/index/21981/21981_quick-start-guide-to-the-iray-dome-and-the-use-of-hdris.pdf (http://docs.daz3d.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/public/read_me/index/21981/21981_quick-start-guide-to-the-iray-dome-and-the-use-of-hdris.pdf)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYCF5aui4s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tYCF5aui4s)
My apologies. These are for the Iray render engine, which my machine cannot handle well. I use the 3Delight render engine. I know DAZ Studio can handle HDRI files in 3Delight renders, but thus far I do not know what to do to get it to work for that type of render.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 11, 2018, 11:50:14 PM
Where did you see it, just out of curiosity?

Newsletter, click on top image, get transported to here store front page.  https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/ (https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/)

It is part of the top banner.  Click that and get the page with individual products, the snowmobile is there.  Click on THAT and get that Surranian texture set.

AND I see that someone changed something, the snowmobile don't show up at all now, but a water JetSki does.  Freebie.   Where did the snowmobile get off to!@? 

GAH!   :yeow:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 12:00:43 AM
Well that got changed, Ray.  No biggie DAH, just do a quick search for his original item name, Snow Bike, and the Snowmobile pops up.  Kewl.  Got both the Jetski and Snowmobile now  :yippee: :c-cat: :thumb_up: :woohoo: :confet:

(i wuz startin ta git a mite frustrated there a bit yaknow)

(but I'm all cool now!)

 :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 12:22:43 AM
Okay...here's the links to the Snow Ski and to the Jet Ski for you:

https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/Designers/Summoner/Snow-Bike-Exclusive (https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/Designers/Summoner/Snow-Bike-Exclusive)

https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/Designers/Summoner/Jet-Ski-Exclusive (https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/Designers/Summoner/Jet-Ski-Exclusive)


I guess that page was not behaving so some things got changed. The links above will take you right to them, McG.

That would have made it easier!  But me?   Noooo I somehow missed a half a page of posts with this one in it, so i did it the hard way.  BUT thanks much for the effort, it will be great for everyone else!  LOL!   I did scroll down Ray, I still got the Surannian textures.

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 06:50:00 AM
That would have made it easier!  But me?   Noooo I somehow missed a half a page of posts with this one in it, so i did it the hard way.  BUT thanks much for the effort, it will be great for everyone else!  LOL!   I did scroll down Ray, I still got the Surannian textures.


Yes, I figured that out. It's because the links were mixed up.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 06:55:05 AM
My apologies. These are for the Iray render engine, which my machine cannot handle well. I use the 3Delight render engine. I know DAZ Studio can handle HDRI files in 3Delight renders, but thus far I do not know what to do to get it to work for that type of render.


Well, pretty much everything on YT is for IRAY :shrug: Perhaps Aelin knows, or perhaps not. I don't.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 06:56:06 AM
Newsletter, click on top image, get transported to here store front page.  https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/ (https://fantasiesrealm.com/market/)

It is part of the top banner.  Click that and get the page with individual products, the snowmobile is there.  Click on THAT and get that Surranian texture set.

AND I see that someone changed something, the snowmobile don't show up at all now, but a water JetSki does.  Freebie.   Where did the snowmobile get off to!@? 

GAH!   :yeow:

Yup, like I said the page wasn't behaving and got changed.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 12, 2018, 07:43:19 AM

Well, pretty much everything on YT is for IRAY :shrug: Perhaps Aelin knows, or perhaps not. I don't.
The only times I tried hdri it was in Bryce 7. In DAZ I have no idea, but Agent can follow the way of Rods maybe.

Mary changes regularly banners. Now it's the banner for the second week of the GlassyLady sale.
To keep an eye on the FRM, the best is to look in the left column on forum. And for example look under "what's new?"
http://fantasiesrealm.com/market/index.php?main_page=products_new

Good morning guys!
We had sun, but now it's back to clouds. Anyway, have you already seen a cat running after you when you have housecleaning and making meow to ask for the place with sun? I have a funny one case at house  :tearlaugh: She goes after me, then goes toward the door of the 'place', then back to me in case I don't understand. A little exercice! But now she is happy for the moment where she was under sun and sleeps well.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 09:56:45 AM
Hey folks, is that HDRI site anything like this one?   http://www.hdrlabs.com/sibl/archive.html
This is where a bunch of us were going a few years ago.  I argued that HDR is High Dynamic Range, and has to do with photographic issues, like averaging three shots different lighting settings, to get the high dynamic range.   But Noooooo everybody else is right right?  HDRI is for *3D* even though it isn't, per se.  ANYWAY, the IBL images I do buy into!   So call it whatever ya do an its cool.  Its what it does in the image that matters.  Right?    :yippee: :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 10:01:26 AM
Good Morning Aelin!  We had a spit-sputter of fine snow, then its back to sunshine.  :shrug: :tearlaugh:

We get the inverted picture of your weather I think!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 10:20:24 AM
Hey folks, is that HDRI site anything like this one?   http://www.hdrlabs.com/sibl/archive.html
This is where a bunch of us were going a few years ago.  I argued that HDR is High Dynamic Range, and has to do with photographic issues, like averaging three shots different lighting settings, to get the high dynamic range.   But Noooooo everybody else is right right?  HDRI is for *3D* even though it isn't, per se.  ANYWAY, the IBL images I do buy into!   So call it whatever ya do an its cool.  Its what it does in the image that matters.  Right?    :yippee: :smile:


HDRI is for both images and photography.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging


Just a little tidbit from there:

The idea of using several exposures to adequately reproduce a too-extreme range of luminance was pioneered as early as the 1850s by Gustave Le Gray to render seascapes showing both the sky and the sea. Such rendering was impossible at the time using standard methods, as the luminosity range was too extreme. Le Gray used one negative for the sky, and another one with a longer exposure for the sea, and combined the two into one picture in positive.[
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 10:31:59 AM
Good Morning to all.   

Our Icecapade has finally left.  Had all intentions of getting back in here but after I dropped Lorna off for work but I got a call from my Sister In Law asking if I could come and pick her up outside of Albany.  Her truck spun out and ended up in the ditch.  No damage to the truck...Just couldn't get it pulled out due to the ice and sleet.  They got it out this morning and she's driving to work as I type.  She was lucky.  But I decided to stay in Albany at their place until the roads got better.  I finally left around 9PM and then went and picked Lorna up at 11 from work.  Perfect timing though.  It took an hour to get home when it normally only takes 20 minutes or so from Albany.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 10:38:28 AM
BINGO Ray!  That's the Right Stuff!   It did begin in photography, but can certainly be used in any imaging where balancing the high/low is needed.   We use computer software to do the job these days.  BUT, it works and can look fantastic!
This sIBL Archive site simply provides images and HDRI sets that can look wonderful, depending on users choices of course.
At least this stuff is simpler, easier to use and much faster than dynamics!   :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 10:39:34 AM
Icecapades!   Man I haven't seen those in decades!  Oh wait, you mean your whole area.  Hmm so how you like slip sliding around TL?  He he he he! :tearlaugh:

We still have a tiny bit of snow and ice hiding in the shadows.  Too much sunshine for it to last long.  Even with temps in the teens, the ice melts with enough sunshine!
 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 10:39:37 AM
The only times I tried hdri it was in Bryce 7. In DAZ I have no idea, but Agent can follow the way of Rods maybe.

Mary changes regularly banners. Now it's the banner for the second week of the GlassyLady sale.
To keep an eye on the FRM, the best is to look in the left column on forum. And for example look under "what's new?"
http://fantasiesrealm.com/market/index.php?main_page=products_new

Good morning guys!
We had sun, but now it's back to clouds. Anyway, have you already seen a cat running after you when you have housecleaning and making meow to ask for the place with sun? I have a funny one case at house  :tearlaugh: She goes after me, then goes toward the door of the 'place', then back to me in case I don't understand. A little exercice! But now she is happy for the moment where she was under sun and sleeps well.

Good Morning Aelin.....  Do you cats like Paper?  I left a note on the counter (which Oz is not suppose to go on but we all know how that works when one sleeps) and I thought a goat chewed it up.  Part of the note is missing and I don't see it anywhere LOLOL....

Mc-G....I link the Newsletter Banner to the Sales Bulletin Banner so when Mary changes it in the store...the Newsletters header changes also.   And yes...the banners take you back to the store....as they should. 

Good Morning Ray.....Hope your feeling a little better today......

And Good Morning to you Fafnir, Neimrok and HH....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 10:41:54 AM
Icecapades!   Man I haven't seen those in decades!  Oh wait, you mean your whole area.  Hmm so how you like slip sliding around TL?  He he he he! :tearlaugh:

Use to enjoy the thrill when I was younger...but not so much anymore....  I now call it White Knuckle Driving....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 10:43:23 AM
Hey TL!  Good Morning to ya!   Yeah Ray figured it out and got it fixed up fine.   I got both of his Do macchines.  Ski-Do and Snow-Do!   :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 12, 2018, 10:56:05 AM
Good Morning Aelin.....  Do you cats like Paper?  I left a note on the counter (which Oz is not suppose to go on but we all know how that works when one sleeps) and I thought a goat chewed it up.  Part of the note is missing and I don't see it anywhere LOLOL....
Yes, at least one of them loves that. She can play with it, but it's when she is stressed mainly that the paper (or cardboard) is very interesting for her. She eats that :hypno: and the plastic too :thud:
I know, weird cat  :shrug:

Now you know that Oz is one of these cats who loves the paper just to play and eat... alas. BUt better that than a game with the Christmas tree I guess.
Ask him to tell you when he will go for the poo, and to bring you back the missing part  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 12, 2018, 10:56:42 AM
Good Morning,


It is 8:48 and 43 degrees F outside and Sunny.  The great thing is it is Friday for those who punch a clock, unless you work the weekends.  C'est la vie.  The high will be 62 degrees. 


Interesting morning at 2:43 this morning I got a knock at the door.  The man from the gas company said there was a leak reported and everyone in the building was standing outside for a while.  One of the neighbors stove was not shut off properly which lead to the leak.  Three hours later we could get back in our places. 


Be dozing off  and on for awhile.


Oh well


Hope everyone is having a good day.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 11:00:47 AM
Yike...that could have been much worse for sure....Glad it worked out OK.  Get some rest..... M-C
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 12, 2018, 11:04:11 AM
Fortunately that they saw the leak :panic:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 11:14:04 AM
Yes, at least one of them loves that. She can play with it, but it's when she is stressed mainly that the paper (or cardboard) is very interesting for her. She eats that :hypno: and the plastic too :thud:
I know, weird cat  :shrug:

Now you know that Oz is one of these cats who loves the paper just to play and eat... alas. BUt better that than a game with the Christmas tree I guess.
Ask him to tell you when he will go for the poo, and to bring you back the missing part  :tearlaugh:

The strange thing is I have two notepads on the counter which he doesn't even touch....just the sheet paper interests him LOL.   Oh well, as you said...better he chews on the paper then the books, magazines and other items we have around here....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 11:21:50 AM
Paper, bare wood, some fabrics.  Cats love stretching and sharpening their fore claws on these things.  Just as we enjoy a good stretching our arms and upper body, our quadruped buddies do too.  But, they got different tools on their digits than we do.  Cats=paper shredder, 2x4 shredder, upholstery shredder.  Dogs=rearranged yards, carpet, etc.  Heh!   
Make a stand with a plain 4x4 about 4' tall on it.  See what your cats do with it.   :yippee:

thats a little bit of controlled FUN for the cats!    :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 11:23:12 AM
Have you seen what Oz does with a paper bag yet?   Open one, on its side.   Apartment and toy all in one!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 11:51:10 AM
Well, he still likes the Ghetto Condo and hasn't chewed on it at all.  Just that one sheet of paper and any mail that Lorna gets is what gets chews  LOLOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 11:52:20 AM
Got to head out early from here since Lorna has to cash her paycheck and pick up some cat litter......and I'm sure I'll have ten other stops  LOLOL....I shall return....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 12:11:20 PM
Hey guys I just discovered there is a SIXTH "Transformers" movie and its in Post Production (I typed Poser steads of Post at first LOL!) right now.  Hailee Steinfeld is the main character with a Transformer Autobot she finds.  A yellow VW Bug.  Guess who it is?   The name of the movie is BUMBLEBEE.  In case ya have trouble guessing.  Ha!  Well I want it.  It IS a Transformer movie after all.   :crazysmile: :smile: :winks: :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 02:28:16 PM
There...that didn't take to long.....well...it did....but it could have been much longer since I DID have the Daughter along  :tearlaugh:

Now to head to the Gallery....again....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 02:37:07 PM
How many of you are Netflix Users?  Ever use this handy dandy Code page.  Love it.....

Try it out.....


NET FLIX CODES (http://ogres-crypt.com/public/NetFlix-Streaming-Genres2.html)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 02:42:33 PM
We had a trip out to WalMart today. They have a Subway there, so I ate a 6" long chicken and bacon ranch club. And it was mahvelous! Tasted about like the best thing I ever ate at the moment. So far I feel really good...so far. Yesterday, I was screaming for a Cheeseburger. I wanted one so bad. Soon...soon.

Now I have to go to the doctor this afternoon. Then home finally.

My daughter and I had two kitties once Pickles and Krishna. Krishna was all black and Pickles a grey tiger stripe. I had two loaves of bread that I put in the cupboard so they couldn't get at it. Don't you know when we got home from work and school. There was both loaves of bread completely demolished, shredded plastic everywhere and except for the cat germs, the bread would have been perfect for making stuffing!

I never made the mistake of anything being in the cupboard stopping them from getting at things, again. Naughty kitties!

And now I've got to take off again. Laters......
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 02:43:19 PM
Had to reload the link.  Oz decided he wanted to type so I had to search for the link again....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 02:53:20 PM
We had a trip out to WalMart today. They have a Subway there, so I ate a 6" long chicken and bacon ranch club. And it was mahvelous! Tasted about like the best thing I ever ate at the moment. So far I feel really good...so far. Yesterday, I was screaming for a Cheeseburger. I wanted one so bad. Soon...soon.

Now I have to go to the doctor this afternoon. Then home finally.

My daughter and I had two kitties once Pickles and Krishna. Krishna was all black and Pickles a grey tiger stripe. I had two loaves of bread that I put in the cupboard so they couldn't get at it. Don't you know when we got home from work and school. There was both loaves of bread completely demolished, shredded plastic everywhere and except for the cat germs, the bread would have been perfect for making stuffing!

I never made the mistake of anything being in the cupboard stopping them from getting at things, again. Naughty kitties!

And now I've got to take off again. Laters......

Hope the Doctor says your doing MUCH better....though it sounds like you are having a good day today.....

Walmart must be popular today.  That's where we ended up after stopping at 4 other shops first.... :thud:

Love my Subway.....and I'm truthful when I say that my Dietician says it give me all I need for fiber, carbs, etc.  Lettuce is the vegetable, Tomatoes the fruit, the I get cheese and meats....and let's not forget the bread......

My Favorites are the Italian BMT and the Spicy Italian and the Meatball.  And they having a special price on the BMT, Meatball and Ham (I think it's ham...)  Plus we got a coupon book for good until the end of Feb that has "Buy one footlong and get a second one free" and things like that.

Oz gets into trouble also...and then some.   Though sometimes it bites him in the ass LOLOL  He got shut in the bottom kitchen cabinet for 3 hours one day....Nothing in there but pots and pans so nothing got wrecked...but I swear I saw a smile on his face when we got back home....and if he had a tail...he would have wagged it.... LOLOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 03:21:01 PM
Hooray RAY!   Sounds like you're getting better, with an appetite for the finer foods.    I bet y'all loved those kitties to pieces too, din't cha Ray?!  Heh heh!   Both of my present buddies have done that kind of thing.  Coming in the house with bags of groceries, set em down on the counter and go back for a 2nd trip, then the third.   Had a pack of hamburger buns.  Coming IN the house that last time, I see Moggie boogying around a corner with half a bun attached to his face.  HA!  Had to move the bed to get the bun out.  But they sure like to explore anything I bring in.   Sometimes I let em on purpose.  get a whiff of this or that and see them try to snort the smell out.    Turns out they like Limburger about as much as I do.   But not jalapenos!   
hee hee!  I am mean!   :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 03:25:16 PM
Oh yes, I love a fresh Meatball Marinara from Subway.   And I can go in and get them to make me a nice BLT on a foot long bun.  Mmm!   I thought I was the only one here liked Subways.  I mean what with everyone being good cooks and all.   :shrug: :yippee: :crazysmile: :smile:

 :grenade: :dk2: :knightcheer2:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 12, 2018, 03:26:38 PM
If you go to do shopping, cats always hope for something  :tearlaugh: That's why I take in twice during the week. They are never disappointed.
Sure sometimes, like for a non food trip, cats love to turn around bag and smell it.

Ray, nice to see that you eat better and better. Yes, sooner for your cheeseburger - and more.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
If you go to do shopping, cats always hope for something  :tearlaugh: That's why I take in twice during the week. They are never disappointed.
Sure sometimes, like for a non food trip, cats love to turn around bag and smell it.

Ray, nice to see that you eat better and better. Yes, sooner for your cheeseburger - and more.

Yep.  My cats will sit and deep smell everything that I take out of the bags and put away.   Sometimes it surprises me the things they want me to "Oh wait a minute let me get a GOOD smell of that thing!"  and it's a box of mac n cheese.   :shrug: or seal season packet.  You can never tell with a cat!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 12, 2018, 03:53:04 PM
My apologies. These are for the Iray render engine, which my machine cannot handle well. I use the 3Delight render engine. I know DAZ Studio can handle HDRI files in 3Delight renders, but thus far I do not know what to do to get it to work for that type of render.
My apologies for the late reply. Got kicked off the internet last night, and have just got back on. \


While that is good for someone using the IRay Render engine, I have to stick to 3Delight due to the limitations of my machines. Thus I need instruction for 3Delight renders.


I did try a few things and was somewhat successful getting the images to import onto a Skydome, but the subsequent render was a blank white image. Apparently there are other settings I need to work on, and perhaps there needs to be something in the other channels of the Skydome. The images I am using have IBL (Image Based Lighting) and I think I am not fully understanding how to use them in DAZ Studio. In Bryce the way you bring one in is a lot easier to understand, and all the settings are well named so an experienced person has no confusion. Not so in DAZ Studio. I suppose I shall have to keep experimenting until I stumble across something that actually works. No telling when that will be.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 04:16:52 PM
Oh yes, I love a fresh Meatball Marinara from Subway.   And I can go in and get them to make me a nice BLT on a foot long bun.  Mmm!   I thought I was the only one here liked Subways.  I mean what with everyone being good cooks and all.   :shrug: :yippee: :crazysmile: :smile:

 :grenade: :dk2: :knightcheer2:


I'm a LAZY good cook .....  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 12, 2018, 05:11:37 PM
Sorry that I've MIA.  Been in bed for the last two day, hacking and hacking.

I'm really glad to hear Ray is better!  What good news to come back to!

Agent, all white renders are sometime an indication that the camera is outside the dome.  Lots of other possibilities as well.  And my brain and fingers in definite disagreement about what should appear on the screen.

I have heard that some kinds of plastic are sweet and that's what attracts cats.  We have one electric cord with kitty tooth marks in it.  Alas, she's been gone for a long while.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 12, 2018, 05:12:19 PM
Paper, bare wood, some fabrics.  Cats love stretching and sharpening their fore claws on these things.  Just as we enjoy a good stretching our arms and upper body, our quadruped buddies do too.  But, they got different tools on their digits than we do.  Cats=paper shredder, 2x4 shredder, upholstery shredder.  Dogs=rearranged yards, carpet, etc.  Heh!   
Make a stand with a plain 4x4 about 4' tall on it.  See what your cats do with it.   :yippee:

thats a little bit of controlled FUN for the cats!    :smile:

Watanuki has made the mistake of thinking I can be shredded by his claws .. my noise of discomfort sort of clues him in .......
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 05:19:40 PM
Lorna has become pretty darn good at trimming Oz's nails.  They are still sharp...but not RAZOR sharp....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 05:25:46 PM
Hope the Doctor says your doing MUCH better....though it sounds like you are having a good day today.....

Walmart must be popular today.  That's where we ended up after stopping at 4 other shops first.... :thud:

Love my Subway.....and I'm truthful when I say that my Dietician says it give me all I need for fiber, carbs, etc.  Lettuce is the vegetable, Tomatoes the fruit, the I get cheese and meats....and let's not forget the bread......

My Favorites are the Italian BMT and the Spicy Italian and the Meatball.  And they having a special price on the BMT, Meatball and Ham (I think it's ham...)  Plus we got a coupon book for good until the end of Feb that has "Buy one footlong and get a second one free" and things like that.

Oz gets into trouble also...and then some.   Though sometimes it bites him in the ass LOLOL  He got shut in the bottom kitchen cabinet for 3 hours one day....Nothing in there but pots and pans so nothing got wrecked...but I swear I saw a smile on his face when we got back home....and if he had a tail...he would have wagged it.... LOLOLOL



Yes, my doctor was very happy today that I gained 2 pounds back and that I'm feeling better. I have to go back in two weeks and get labs done again. Those people take so much blood out of me! At least they're real good at it so I don't feel 'violated' like some phlebotomists I've had - like Attila the Army Nurse. That woman should never have been given a tourniquet and a needle!

Still feeling good with my sub. I also have a pretzel I'll be heating up a bit later. Doctor was telling me my sodium was low. That's from eating bananas, oatmeal and rice. I'm gonna make up for it some tonight though!

Pickles and Krishna....the most fun thing about them was when they'd get in the bathtub and play hockey with their catnip ball. They were hilarious. Pickles as not really terribly bright, but sweet. Krishna was half Siamese, although you couldn't tell except from the shape of his head and more or less his body. He was pretty but he was a little you know what, too - with that Siamese attitude. I'm sure he's the one initiated most of their mis- adventures.

Our one guy that goes with us to the stores had a meatball sub today too. I think you guys LOVE those things. So it seems. I'm just really not into meatballs. I like thick meat-sauce better. Haven't made any forever. I made some once with ground lamb to go on my homemade gnocchis and that turned out amazing. Even the Italian grandma (from Italy) said it was awesome. So there!! :tearlaugh: You bet I rubbed that in as long as I could. "Your grandmother thinks I'm a good cook!"

My cat really has no interest at all in my food except maybe Simply Cheetos Puffs. Then maybe she'll lick some of the cheesy coating off and then she's done. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 05:27:40 PM
Sorry that I've MIA.  Been in bed for the last two day, hacking and hacking.

I'm really glad to hear Ray is better!  What good news to come back to!

Agent, all white renders are sometime an indication that the camera is outside the dome.  Lots of other possibilities as well.  And my brain and fingers in definite disagreement about what should appear on the screen.

I have heard that some kinds of plastic are sweet and that's what attracts cats.  We have one electric cord with kitty tooth marks in it.  Alas, she's been gone for a long while.

Hope you get to 100% soon.  It's wicked out there.  You can bet I used those wipes they have for the shopping carts lately.....  And when I hear a cough or a sneeze....I take my squeaky wobbly cart and head in the opposite direction....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 12, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
Lorna has become pretty darn good at trimming Oz's nails.  They are still sharp...but not RAZOR sharp....
Something that I had better learn and soon or I am going to be in pain and donating blood regularly and that is so not on my list
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 12, 2018, 05:28:21 PM
As longer as the cat can stop him in the good time, you keep your hand  :tearlaugh:

Sir Knight, take care of you!

Ray, happy to see that is really better for you! In 2 weeks? That health issue will be the past.

Excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 05:31:10 PM
My apologies for the late reply. Got kicked off the internet last night, and have just got back on. \


While that is good for someone using the IRay Render engine, I have to stick to 3Delight due to the limitations of my machines. Thus I need instruction for 3Delight renders.


I did try a few things and was somewhat successful getting the images to import onto a Skydome, but the subsequent render was a blank white image. Apparently there are other settings I need to work on, and perhaps there needs to be something in the other channels of the Skydome. The images I am using have IBL (Image Based Lighting) and I think I am not fully understanding how to use them in DAZ Studio. In Bryce the way you bring one in is a lot easier to understand, and all the settings are well named so an experienced person has no confusion. Not so in DAZ Studio. I suppose I shall have to keep experimenting until I stumble across something that actually works. No telling when that will be.


All I know is it's easier in Poser. And that is really all I know. No idea how DAZ 's lights work at all. There is a little box you can check in your render settings to get the HDRI effect. Is there maybe something like that in DAZ?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 12, 2018, 05:31:41 PM
Hope you get to 100% soon.  It's wicked out there.  You can bet I used those wipes they have for the shopping carts lately.....  And when I hear a cough or a sneeze....I take my squeaky wobbly cart and head in the opposite direction....

Thanks!

Smart moves, both.

OK.  It took two tries to make that coherent.  I'm out of here.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 12, 2018, 05:31:55 PM
Sorry that I've MIA.  Been in bed for the last two day, hacking and hacking.

I'm really glad to hear Ray is better!  What good news to come back to!

Agent, all white renders are sometime an indication that the camera is outside the dome.  Lots of other possibilities as well.  And my brain and fingers in definite disagreement about what should appear on the screen.

I have heard that some kinds of plastic are sweet and that's what attracts cats.  We have one electric cord with kitty tooth marks in it.  Alas, she's been gone for a long while.
Will look into that, but I think another thing it could indicate is that the IBL is too intense, causing washout in the image that is rendered. As I said, I tried several ways to import the images and one was in Environments Pane. I just imported the image, but the 3Delight render engine does not include an environment sphere by default. Even that rendered as all white.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
Something that I had better learn and soon or I am going to be in pain and donating blood regularly and that is so not on my list


Have you cut cat nails before, J? Just watch out for the quick. Don't cut down to or into it. I do advise going to Petco or Petsmart or wherever you go and getting a little pot of Stiptic in case you do accidently cut a quick. It helps staunch the bleeding. Pick it up when you get your nail clippers if you don't have any yet.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 12, 2018, 05:36:14 PM

All I know is it's easier in Poser. And that is really all I know. No idea how DAZ 's lights work at all. There is a little box you can check in your render settings to get the HDRI effect. Is there maybe something like that in DAZ?
All I can say to answer your question is "Um!", meaning I haven't the slightest idea. :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 05:39:47 PM

Yes, my doctor was very happy today that I gained 2 pounds back and that I'm feeling better. I have to go back in two weeks and get labs done again. Those people take so much blood out of me! At least they're real good at it so I don't feel 'violated' like some phlebotomists I've had - like Attila the Army Nurse. That woman should never have been given a tourniquet and a needle!

Still feeling good with my sub. I also have a pretzel I'll be heating up a bit later. Doctor was telling me my sodium was low. That's from eating bananas, oatmeal and rice. I'm gonna make up for it some tonight though!

Pickles and Krishna....the most fun thing about them was when they'd get in the bathtub and play hockey with their catnip ball. They were hilarious. Pickles as not really terribly bright, but sweet. Krishna was half Siamese, although you couldn't tell except from the shape of his head and more or less his body. He was pretty but he was a little you know what, too - with that Siamese attitude. I'm sure he's the one initiated most of their mis- adventures.

Our one guy that goes with us to the stores had a meatball sub today too. I think you guys LOVE those things. So it seems. I'm just really not into meatballs. I like thick meat-sauce better. Haven't made any forever. I made some once with ground lamb to go on my homemade gnocchis and that turned out amazing. Even the Italian grandma (from Italy) said it was awesome. So there!! :tearlaugh: You bet I rubbed that in as long as I could. "Your grandmother thinks I'm a good cook!"

My cat really has no interest at all in my food except maybe Simply Cheetos Puffs. Then maybe she'll lick some of the cheesy coating off and then she's done. 

Glad you got a wee bit of weight back...That's a good sign....   As for the Meatball Subs.... It must be the Balls" part that draws us in.... LOLOL   

Anyway...sounds like a good day all in all.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 05:40:22 PM
Sorry that I've MIA.  Been in bed for the last two day, hacking and hacking.

I'm really glad to hear Ray is better!  What good news to come back to!

Agent, all white renders are sometime an indication that the camera is outside the dome.  Lots of other possibilities as well.  And my brain and fingers in definite disagreement about what should appear on the screen.

I have heard that some kinds of plastic are sweet and that's what attracts cats.  We have one electric cord with kitty tooth marks in it.  Alas, she's been gone for a long while.


Thank you kind Sir Knight! I hope sincerely you are feeling better soon. This stuff is the pits and sorry you came down with it. Drink lots of Gatorade, tea and water to stay hydrated. Doctor told me that's a big problem with people getting dehydrated. I know just how you feel when the brain won't cooperate with the rest of you. Frustrating, huh? Take care of you :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 05:43:23 PM

Glad you got a wee bit of weight back...That's a good sign....   As for the Meatball Subs.... It must be the Balls" part that draws us in.... LOLOL   

Anyway...sounds like a good day all in all.


Me too! Gaining two pounds is better than losing two more pounds. Lol...it was probably from my sub I gained two pounds.

It was a great day. Smashburger day will be EVEN BETTER!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 05:44:08 PM

Have you cut cat nails before, J? Just watch out for the quick. Don't cut down to or into it. I do advise going to Petco or Petsmart or wherever you go and getting a little pot of Stiptic in case you do accidently cut a quick. It helps staunch the bleeding. Pick it up when you get your nail clippers if you don't have any yet.

Yes on the Stiptic...no matter how great Lorna is doing the nails...and how well behaved Oz is when she does them...there is always that Oppps moment that requires the Stiptic....  I would have never thought to pick it up but Lorna has had many many kittens and cats...and has trimmed nails on them all.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 05:54:31 PM
Yes on the Stiptic...no matter how great Lorna is doing the nails...and how well behaved Oz is when she does them...there is always that Oppps moment that requires the Stiptic....  I would have never thought to pick it up but Lorna has had many many kittens and cats...and has trimmed nails on them all.

Stiptic is miraculous stuff :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 05:56:04 PM
All I can say to answer your question is "Um!", meaning I haven't the slightest idea. :shrug:

Well, does DAZ have a render settings page or pop-up and does it have anything like that on it to check?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 12, 2018, 06:23:22 PM

Have you cut cat nails before, J? Just watch out for the quick. Don't cut down to or into it. I do advise going to Petco or Petsmart or wherever you go and getting a little pot of Stiptic in case you do accidentally cut a quick. It helps staunch the bleeding. Pick it up when you get your nail clippers if you don't have any yet.


I seem to think I have done it before when I had cats previously but definitely do not have any clippers at teh moment.

I have heard about the "quick" and to not nick or cut it but that is about all I can say. Must have been lucky when I cut them before as I don't recall any incidents of that nature.

Just holding a ball of fur writhing and scratching at you while trying to shorten those daggers they wield must have been a challenge in and of its own self .... so tis odd that I managed to avoid that joy
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 12, 2018, 06:24:32 PM
Stiptic is miraculous stuff :thumb_up:

Will have to pick some up with the clippers as recommended
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 06:28:47 PM


I seem to think I have done it before when I had cats previously but definitely do not have any clippers at teh moment.

I have heard about the "quick" and to not nick or cut it but that is about all I can say. Must have been lucky when I cut them before as I don't recall any incidents of that nature.

Just holding a ball of fur writhing and scratching at you while trying to shorten those daggers they wield must have been a challenge in and of its own self .... so tis odd that I managed to avoid that joy

Lorna waits till the end of the day when Oz is worn out and nodding off...but in reality....I think he kind of enjoys it at times.  Lorna only got scratched bad once...when she first attempted it...but with a little cat cooing talk and some belly rubs...all went well.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 06:31:20 PM
As longer as the cat can stop him in the good time, you keep your hand  :tearlaugh:

Sir Knight, take care of you!

Ray, happy to see that is really better for you! In 2 weeks? That health issue will be the past.

Excellent end of day guys!

Almost forgot....

Have a WONDERFUL night aelin...Thanks for the cool stuff you found today....Loved it all...and so did the externals....wooohoooo
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 06:33:01 PM


I seem to think I have done it before when I had cats previously but definitely do not have any clippers at teh moment.

I have heard about the "quick" and to not nick or cut it but that is about all I can say. Must have been lucky when I cut them before as I don't recall any incidents of that nature.

Just holding a ball of fur writhing and scratching at you while trying to shorten those daggers they wield must have been a challenge in and of its own self .... so tis odd that I managed to avoid that joy

A lot of that depends on the color of your cat's nails, too. If they're nice white nails that helps. Cat's with the dark nails are much harder to tell where the quick is but generally speaking, it's close to the bottom of the part on the back of the claw where it tapers from the point up into that 'bulb' of the claw. Right in that area is where you'll see it or feel it. Best thing is to cut straight flat cuts on that pointy tapering part and cut below where it starts widening and 'bulbing' into the claw shape.

Hopefully, you can just see it in his nails and that'll make it easy - well except for the squirming. Be firm. NO!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 06:35:45 PM
Yes, thank you too Aelin :) It's very nice to feel better! You have a good night's sleep and I hope Mr. Sun comes to shine on you for awhile tomorrow!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 06:42:16 PM
Stiptic  comes in handy if you cut yourself too  I seem to remember grand dad had     a       Stiptic  pencil or stick in his shaving  gear  worked a  lot better than having to find a spider  web  or use a piece of toilet  paper to stop bleeding
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 06:48:58 PM
Ya mean this Fafnir....Still use them...OFTEN   LOLOL

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81IbKOO0VOL._SY679_.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 06:49:41 PM
Yup, so did my dad. It cuts the bleeding off pretty quick!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Every time I took off for a Business trip I'd have to buy a new stick because I couldn't find mine.....and Linda would say she "Borrowed It" because she cut herself shaving her legs and can't seem to find it now.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 06:58:47 PM
Fafnir....when's the Wifes retirement party?  The 19th?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 07:12:01 PM
wife is  done retired  was the 9th of this  month
party was at the dealership  owner  took her to lunch at fancy  seafood place when they got back  they had cake and  speeches and I don't think there was a dry eye in the  whole meeting  room
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
She worked there a lonnnnnng time, didn't she Fafnir? I bet everyone will miss her :winks:

Sounds like a very nice dinner!



Come to think of it on the styptic - my dad HAD to have it for when he shaved, in case he cut himself because of the blood-thinner he had to take.

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 07:32:33 PM
wife is  done retired  was the 9th of this  month
party was at the dealership  owner  took her to lunch at fancy  seafood place when they got back  they had cake and  speeches and I don't think there was a dry eye in the  whole meeting  room

Knew there was a "9" in there somewhere LOLOL.   Glad she finally retired and glad they were so kind to her....and hope they are monetarily kind to her also.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 07:35:46 PM

Come to think of it on the styptic - my dad HAD to have it for when he shaved, in case he cut himself because of the blood-thinner he had to take.

Yup....I can relate.....  Which is why I always had to buy a new one before taking a trip.....LOLOL...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 07:40:38 PM
they were  and she was there 14 years  started  with mullinax when he  moved to fla and ran things for the  whole  time she  was there but on the bright side  the stress  level has gone  down  blood  pressure  is  down to close to normal  next  is  get  diabetes under control and  get  healthy so we can  enjoy  her  being  home  with  me
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 12, 2018, 07:40:43 PM
Ya mean this Fafnir....Still use them...OFTEN   LOLOL

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81IbKOO0VOL._SY679_.jpg)

This is quite scary then, I use a razor blade to shave with and have never had a need for this product ... must not be doing something right ... oh wait the other way round ... seriously can't recall the last time I nicked myself if ever ... which is quite odd considering I just wet the face with water and have at it ... I should have battle scars galore in theory
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 07:42:16 PM
yep still  keep styptic pencil handy  wife is on  blood thinners too
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 07:43:32 PM
This is quite scary then, I use a razor blade to shave with and have never had a need for this product ... must not be doing something right ... oh wait the other way round ... seriously can't recall the last time I nicked myself if ever ... which is quite odd considering I just wet the face with water and have at it ... I should have battle scars galore in theory


Depends on the hair texture.....  Some have tough hair....others have .....ummmm.....Not so tough hair  ....

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
haven't  cut or nicked  myself  in years  but  still keep one  handy in case I do  or  wife cuts  herself cause  she  is  on blood thinner and  bleeds quite a  bunch  from  cuts
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 07:46:26 PM
baby fine  peach fuzz  you  mean Luffie
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 07:47:34 PM
they were  and she was there 14 years  started  with mullinax when he  moved to fla and ran things for the  whole  time she  was there but on the bright side  the stress  level has gone  down  blood  pressure  is  down to close to normal  next  is  get  diabetes under control and  get  healthy so we can  enjoy  her  being  home  with  me

Most excellent....but remember....you can't get on her nerves else the blood pressure will rise again LOLOL.  You're not use to having someone around 24/7 and neither is she.  Will take some adjusting for sure.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 07:48:38 PM
baby fine  peach fuzz  you  mean Luffie

That was the first thought that passed my mind LOLOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 07:51:14 PM
haven't  cut or nicked  myself  in years  but  still keep one  handy in case I do  or  wife cuts  herself cause  she  is  on blood thinner and  bleeds quite a  bunch  from  cuts

I try not to but sometimes I'm to frugal for my own good and wait till the razor is just about done for before changing it.....and we all know how wonderful of a job a dull blade can do....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 12, 2018, 07:57:43 PM
That was the first thought that passed my mind LOLOLOL

You have seen the mustache where dost thou get the notion of baby fine peach fuzz from is beyond my comprehension :whattodo:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 08:05:49 PM
Harrys  shave  club  best  bang for the buck  tailor your order to your  needs super sharp  blades  delivered to your  door handle comes  with blades check them out
much better  than  those  cheep twin blade things they pass off on you for  more  than they are  worth
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 08:09:35 PM
wife  watches  TV I play on puter and  yea  I know about  getting on her  nerves  so I go  fishing  or  down to another  park to take  pics   and  she  can  have all the her  time  she  wants so  we don't  bother  one  another  and if  she  wants  puter  she  can  have  it
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 08:11:08 PM
I remember my Dad shaving with a straight-edge razor until I was maybe about six or seven. Lol. I used to go in and sit on the toilet seat (down) and watch him shave. I thought it was so amazing that he didn't slice himself good. Like magic!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 08:26:12 PM
Harrys  shave  club  best  bang for the buck  tailor your order to your  needs super sharp  blades  delivered to your  door handle comes  with blades check them out
much better  than  those  cheep twin blade things they pass off on you for  more  than they are  worth

I once thought about the clubs but need to do a little research first.  I use Gillette right now but Harry's doesn't look all that bad

Shave Clubs Research (https://www.consumerreports.org/razors/which-shave-club-has-the-best-razor/)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 08:30:13 PM
I remember my Dad shaving with a straight-edge razor until I was maybe about six or seven. Lol. I used to go in and sit on the toilet seat (down) and watch him shave. I thought it was so amazing that he didn't slice himself good. Like magic!

I liked my face way to much to mutilate it with a straight edge razor LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 12, 2018, 08:49:36 PM
a fine art using a straight razor never learned that one but could use a skinning knife to shave  with and it  did a great job
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 12, 2018, 08:56:47 PM
Gillette does a fine job....LOLOL

Have a great night folks.....Gotta rest up before I take off to pick Lorna up from work.  I think tonight is our Monthly McDonalds night.  Only do it once a month....which is enough for the both of us.....

See you in the morn...around 9AM I'm thinking.  By the time I eat and finally get to sleep it's 2AM. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 09:13:02 PM
a fine art using a straight razor never learned that one but could use a skinning knife to shave  with and it  did a great job

My Dad was very good with knives - because he'd been cutting stencils, tape, silk screens, skinning animals, shaving and all that since he was a teenager, painting signs, making silk-screen prints and hunting. He was Mr. In-Control.

That's where I learned to become deadly with an X-Acto #11 blade. Some instruction from Dad and a project. I did an entire 8x10" scratchboard with one knife & many blades. Scraping, scraping...don't dare dig into the clay on the board. I did one time, but it wasn't too noticeable. You can't fix it if you do. Surgical precession on rest :smiley: I think that's why I like Dr. Jest and his scalpel in Elric. Not that I ever did that.......... :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 12, 2018, 09:18:00 PM
Good night, TL. Sleep well when you do.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 11:45:30 PM
Will look into that, but I think another thing it could indicate is that the IBL is too intense, causing washout in the image that is rendered. As I said, I tried several ways to import the images and one was in Environments Pane. I just imported the image, but the 3Delight render engine does not include an environment sphere by default. Even that rendered as all white.

When moving things between DS to Poser I often find some settings in the Materials room have to be lowered drastically.  Specularity is the first thing to blow out an image or Figure/Prop.  When an item comes out blaring white that is the first thing I check.  Cause from DS it will be 100% intense and 100% size, no .01 and .01.   I don't know if something like that can occur going from Poser to DS though, but it's worth a look.
Sir Knight got there first, sorry!   :puah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 11:48:15 PM

Glad you got a wee bit of weight back...That's a good sign....   As for the Meatball Subs.... It must be the Balls" part that draws us in.... LOLOL   

Anyway...sounds like a good day all in all.


It's the marinara sauce I tell you!  The MARINARA!     :feelgood: :crazysmile: :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 12, 2018, 11:53:10 PM
Yes on the Stiptic...no matter how great Lorna is doing the nails...and how well behaved Oz is when she does them...there is always that Oppps moment that requires the Stiptic....  I would have never thought to pick it up but Lorna has had many many kittens and cats...and has trimmed nails on them all.

They have caps for them too.    :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 12:04:48 AM
This is quite scary then, I use a razor blade to shave with and have never had a need for this product ... must not be doing something right ... oh wait the other way round ... seriously can't recall the last time I nicked myself if ever ... which is quite odd considering I just wet the face with water and have at it ... I should have battle scars galore in theory

TRUE!   I guess every guys skin is different, and/or their technique and beard itself.  My beard is sparse but wire tough.   Lots of guys have thick tough beard.  Mine is way heavier than my head hair.   My skin is sensitive.  Even when I don't nick myself I get razor rash.  So finally, I've had three years in February with no razor rash!   No shaving either!   
Some guys have to hot soak their beards for shaving every time, and some shave twice a day.  Some twice a week (me).  Some nick, some don't.  Some have to use shaving cream, others can go it dry shaving.  Yet others a splash of water.   
Me, it isn't that I wanted to grow a beard.  I just got fed up with shaving!
 :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 12:14:55 AM
BIG HELLO Ray!   Good to see you are feeling better, and that the doctor is happy too.   Sure missed you here.

 :happydance: :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 12:17:40 AM
@ Fafnir - Yaaay!  Glad your wife finally retired too man.   You were getting concerned about the WHEN that was going to happen.   Glad it finally did and the company was real nice to her!   You both deserve a great retirement man!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 12:22:00 AM
Cleve, Sir Knight!  Great to see you guys again.   

Sorry you're down with being sick Sir Knight.  I haven't had any real coughing ailment since I quit smoking, but still get the flu and colds now and then.  Here's hoping you get better quick!

Cleve, I miss your conversations man.  sure hope you can pick them up again soon!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 12:27:57 AM
To All - I am not avoiding anyone here.  My waking time has been an odd variable ever since my dealings with cancer.   Right now, no matter how I try to change it, I am sleeping from around 1pm till 11.   Or somewhere in that area.   I can't help it.  No worries I will have to have a lie down around 3 am too.  Really messes things up when it comes to scheduling things like visits to offices, doctors, etc.   At least Walmart keeps 1 register open all night.  Just saying.  I do enjoy speaking with all of you, sorry I can't do that in a different timeframe.
McG.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 04:02:00 AM
Razors.   For "medicinal use only".   I use what I've used for ages, and what lots of hospitals use.  BIC!

I can't recall ever using a Styptic Pencil or bar.   Nope, I had to use good ol TP (toilet paper!).


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 05:09:43 AM
Good morning everyone at the Attic!   It is currently Five Oh Seven AM, 14°F, no moisture in sight and my toes are cold.   I am sleepy again, so will have a bite and my meds then take a cup of steaming coffee to bed with me, fall asleep watching a movie and talk to you all later today!   :yippee: :shock:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 13, 2018, 05:13:29 AM
Stiptic  comes in handy if you cut yourself too  I seem to remember grand dad had     a       Stiptic  pencil or stick in his shaving  gear  worked a  lot better than having to find a spider  web  or use a piece of toilet  paper to stop bleeding

You make me feel old. I have a Stiptic pencil for shaving. I've a full beard for some 45 years or so now and used to use a straight razor to shave. Still do when it comes to neatening things up. Hard, white, lasts for ever those Stiptic pencils. Mine is as old as my razor.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 13, 2018, 05:16:01 AM
Ya mean this Fafnir....Still use them...OFTEN   LOLOL

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81IbKOO0VOL._SY679_.jpg)

Wow. Uptown version. The pencil comes with a plastic case. Maybe I should go get a new one after all these years.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 13, 2018, 08:02:03 AM
wife is  done retired  was the 9th of this  month
party was at the dealership  owner  took her to lunch at fancy  seafood place when they got back  they had cake and  speeches and I don't think there was a dry eye in the  whole meeting  room
Great for your wife!  :newyears2: Now enjoy the more time together :thumb_up:

Good morning guys :hypno: The talk on claws and sticks I lost myself :psycho: Here cats have a tree for cats for their nails. Don't try to do the job yourself on one of cats, or you lose litterally your hand!
For the second, when I adopted her, she had so little tiny nails growing skew that it wasn't a good idea to even try for her - except to destroy all claws the roots.

Ray, thanks for sun, it was here during the morning and one half of hour again. It was very good.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 13, 2018, 08:09:08 AM
Good Morning,


Another day out west.  It is 6:00 am and all is well so far.  It is 45 degrees F here with a high expected at 63 degrees. 


Gee I still use styptic pencils myself with my injector blade razor.  If I let my beard go to long it get so thick the only way I can shave is to use a single straight blade to shave with.  These modern multi blade razors will just do nothing but go over the beard and do nothing.  I would use my safety razor but finding blades for it is really getting hard here.   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 13, 2018, 08:26:20 AM
My Dad was very good with knives - because he'd been cutting stencils, tape, silk screens, skinning animals, shaving and all that since he was a teenager, painting signs, making silk-screen prints and hunting. He was Mr. In-Control.

That's where I learned to become deadly with an X-Acto #11 blade. Some instruction from Dad and a project. I did an entire 8x10" scratchboard with one knife & many blades. Scraping, scraping...don't dare dig into the clay on the board. I did one time, but it wasn't too noticeable. You can't fix it if you do. Surgical precession on rest :smiley: I think that's why I like Dr. Jest and his scalpel in Elric. Not that I ever did that.......... :iminnocent:

Was never great with an X-Acto but I can carve a mean Turkey  LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 13, 2018, 08:45:38 AM
And a good morning to all.....

See you when you wake back up Mc-G.....   

PDG and M-C..... I have a beard in the Winter and trim it down to a goatee in the Spring.  That's where a electric beard trimmer comes in handy...and I seem to get one every 3 or 4 years from one of the family members for Christmas. 

It's a cloudy one out there so far....a balmy 14 degrees....which is warmer than it has been in the last couple of days LOL. 

Good Morning Aelin.  Lorna feels that the scratching post makes Oz's claws SHARPER LOL.  And she wants no part of that....thus she trims them.

How are you feeling this morning Sir Knight?  Better I hope....

And now to see what is what elsewhere and take a gallery visit. 

With :java: in hand....ahhhhhhh


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 13, 2018, 09:02:35 AM
I'm improving but still very wobbly.  And still a Bear with Very Little Brain, so I'm lurking more or less quietly until I can type with some semblance of meaning.   :crazy:

Thanks to all of you for your well wishes!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 13, 2018, 09:07:58 AM
I don't think I've ever typed with "semblance" LOLOL....  You take care.  Tis a slow process for sure....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 09:29:04 AM
BIG HELLO Ray!   Good to see you are feeling better, and that the doctor is happy too.   Sure missed you here.

 :happydance: :yippee:


Thanks :smile: For the most part I was having the same problems Sir Knight is having - feeling like the brain wasn't always connected. Completely uninspired to do anything. Hopefully, that will fix itself soon. Mostly I just wanted to sleep and wake up and feel better.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 13, 2018, 09:29:31 AM
Yep.  My friends all say that I talk like a book.   :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 09:32:05 AM
I'm improving but still very wobbly.  And still a Bear with Very Little Brain, so I'm lurking more or less quietly until I can type with some semblance of meaning.   :crazy:

Thanks to all of you for your well wishes!

I know...it can be a real problem with that flu - stringing a sentence together and not misspelling half the words or saying the wrong ones. It's a brain scramble. You have my sympathies!

:peek:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 13, 2018, 09:38:18 AM

Good Morning Aelin.  Lorna feels that the scratching post makes Oz's claws SHARPER LOL.  And she wants no part of that....thus she trims them.

Indeed claws are sharper. That is the bad side of the medal  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 09:38:45 AM
It was soooo foggy out this morning I thought at first it was snowing because the light across the way was glaring off the fog to where it was like a solid white cloud covering everything.

But that burned off as soon as the sun started coming up and now it's going to be in the high 40s and dry...they say. The foothills are still dry as a bone.

Good morning and glad you got your sun this morning, Aelin :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 13, 2018, 09:47:27 AM
And a GOOD MORNING to you Ray.....  Hope you're still feeling a wee bit better.   

I don't think we'll see 40 degrees for a while here LOL.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 13, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
Yep.  My friends all say that I talk like a book.   :shrug:

:tearlaugh: I get admonished for using words with more then three syllables before Thursday ... :thud: :luvbooks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 10:01:44 AM
And a good morning to all.....

See you when you wake back up Mc-G.....   

PDG and M-C..... I have a beard in the Winter and trim it down to a goatee in the Spring.  That's where a electric beard trimmer comes in handy...and I seem to get one every 3 or 4 years from one of the family members for Christmas. 

It's a cloudy one out there so far....a balmy 14 degrees....which is warmer than it has been in the last couple of days LOL. 

Good Morning Aelin.  Lorna feels that the scratching post makes Oz's claws SHARPER LOL.  And she wants no part of that....thus she trims them.

How are you feeling this morning Sir Knight?  Better I hope....

And now to see what is what elsewhere and take a gallery visit. 

With :java: in hand....ahhhhhhh


Wow!  I did it!  I woke back up and it's still daylight, even morning still.   Feels good it does! 
Yeah I hope everyone that was feeling ill is getting better, feeling better.  It's Saturday!

 :sunny: :c-cat: :confet: :puah: Did I say that?  I DID!


HI! TL, Ray, Aelin, Cleve, Sir Knight, Jherrith, Neimrok, M-Callahan, DarkAngel  and every one I missed!   G'Mornin!!    :crazysmile: :winks: :yippee: :smile: :cool:

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 10:13:58 AM
Yep.  My friends all say that I talk like a book.   :shrug:

Oh Sir Knight, what a bummer!   You reminded me of a scene from Wizard of Oz.  When Dorothy finds the Tin Man.  "Perfect?  Bang on my chest!"   She does, it makes a resounding echo, and Scarecrow exclaims "Beautiful, what an echo!".  Tin Man responds dismally "It's empty.  No heart."

My goodness, I can do better than just text!  Here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_QsEnogTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU_QsEnogTg)

MUCH better!   :crazysmile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 10:43:16 AM
And a GOOD MORNING to you Ray.....  Hope you're still feeling a wee bit better.   

I don't think we'll see 40 degrees for a while here LOL.....


I'm still a LOT better than I was. :cheer: You'll have to excuse my exuberance - after being sick for almost two months.

Nope doesn't sound like you all will be seeing 40 for some time. I suppose you've got your Wisconsin permafrost back this year. No digging til spring!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 13, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
Glad to hear your doing so well....and I'm thinking this year the digging will be early summer LOLOL....

Even the snowflakes are putting on overcoats..... :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 11:03:34 AM
Now, that's cold! You're likely right on the digging.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 11:30:28 AM
It was 12°F when I woke at 9:30am, its up to 27°F now.  I had to step out and get my mail, it felt chilly but not sub-freezing.  No breeze, nice bright sunshine.   Funny, we were forecast to get 24°F, not 12.  So, Monday morning we're slated for single digit temps again.  Now that hurts the ol bones.   That's life!  Heh!  Goes up, goes down, goes side to side and spins all around.  You weather it and go on.   :smile: :yippee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 13, 2018, 11:44:32 AM
Gotta love it when you already have your day planned....and you get a call saying "We'll be stopping by this afternoon" and they have already left to start their day of visiting family.  Guess it's going to be a Grand's Day  :tearlaugh:

Hummm....maybe I can put them to work.  I had all intentions of transferring my Christmas Decorations from Boxes to Plastic Containers.  We shall see  :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 13, 2018, 12:48:33 PM
Hopefully this is not a start of a new Ice Age.  I just don't want to move again in a southern direction to avoid the glaciers.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 13, 2018, 01:15:05 PM
Hello guys. Seems that some type of interference is affecting signal strength in my area, as internet service is going and coming intermittently. So while I have a fair signal I am doing all I can to get what I want to do done! LOL


Thanks to the powers that be for choosing my Mountain Beauty image for 'Your Art Winner'! You guys sure floored me with that one! Talk about having fun? Yes I am!
:woohoo: :Hi5: :cheer: :cheer: :confet:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 13, 2018, 01:21:51 PM

to those of you with the flu .............be glad you woke up some didn't !!
it seems the flu' is getting worse [Asian/bird/etc ] and they seem to be piggy backing


all them sci fi books you read as a kiddie
arrrrrrrrrrgh
I wanna meet an alien an sneeze on him/her/it :tearlaugh:


why oh why do you Americanos keep degrees F ? , feet and inch's??
when we have taken on the SI system ??


there is no such thing as a metric 6 foot  :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 13, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
Hopefully this is not a start of a new Ice Age.  I just don't want to move again in a southern direction to avoid the glaciers.
Depends who is the team which travels with you (https://d2e111jq13me73.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/styles/review_gallery_carousel_slide_thumbnail_landscape/public/video-thumbnails/ice-age-collision-course.jpg?itok=zqrF74-1)
 :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 13, 2018, 01:58:49 PM
Sir Knight  I hope you get to feeling better  soon   Rayvn  so glad you feeling better  wife says thanks McG  she is much happier now  BP/stress is down a bunch  and  we going to  enjoy doing things  together  now  hope all have a great  day and stay  warm
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 13, 2018, 02:14:34 PM
to those of you with the flu .............be glad you woke up some didn't !!
it seems the flu' is getting worse [Asian/bird/etc ] and they seem to be piggy backing


all them sci fi books you read as a kiddie
arrrrrrrrrrgh
I wanna meet an alien an sneeze on him/her/it :tearlaugh:


why oh why do you Americanos keep degrees F ? , feet and inch's??
when we have taken on the SI system ??


there is no such thing as a metric 6 foot  :shrug:
Because it is what we used to build all of our stuff, and converting to the metric system turned out to be time consuming, when what we already had was working well already. You just don't fix what ain't broken!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
Yeah what Agent said!  Plus, it is our 'birth language'.  It is what we came up knowing.  And teaching metrics to our kids just didn't work out so good.   They like the Statute system too.  So, there it is. We use statute first, then look up metrics!   :yippee: :smile: :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 02:36:35 PM
Hiya Agent Double OH Hiccup!  Great to see ya today.  Man do I feel old.   :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 13, 2018, 05:11:29 PM
Have an excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 05:14:15 PM
Have a pleasant evening, Aelin. Thanks for the things you do :angelstaff:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
Yeah what Agent said!  Plus, it is our 'birth language'.  It is what we came up knowing.  And teaching metrics to our kids just didn't work out so good.   They like the Statute system too.  So, there it is. We use statute first, then look up metrics!   :yippee: :smile: :winks:


Yup, that's the size of it, what those two said, HH. It's not in our genes, or something. We just don't take to it unless we're of that sort of mind...like people who can read binary or hexadecimal language. Oil cans, tin cans, mixing bowls, pots n pans - they all have their sizes in ounces or, pints, quarts, gallons. Even paint comes in a one or five gallon bucket - or a quart. Stones, lbs. How tall are you? The automatic answer is feet and inches. It's just too ingrained to stamp it out. :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 13, 2018, 05:23:43 PM
Hi guys. Just a quick stop. Left work early on Wednesday, went to urgent care and they say I have early symptoms of the flu, ugh......so been sick since then. Feel much better today, no more body aches but still tired, sleeping on and off. so letting you know, in case I don't stop by for a few more days.....Oh I'm very pissed, not that it's anyone fault but didn't want to get sick now, my mom was suppose to come up this coming Monday and stay til Thursday, since she is heading back to the island Sunday the 21  :thud: :sad: ...I'm so pissed, sad, stupid influenza
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 13, 2018, 05:33:26 PM
Hi guys. Just a quick stop. Left work early on Wednesday, went to urgent care and they say I have early symptoms of the flu, ugh......so been sick since then. Feel much better today, no more body aches but still tired, sleeping on and off. so letting you know, in case I don't stop by for a few more days.....Oh I'm very pissed, not that it's anyone fault but didn't want to get sick now, my mom was suppose to come up this coming Monday and stay til Thursday, since she is heading back to the island Sunday the 21  :thud: :sad: ...I'm so pissed, sad, stupid influenza

Ohhh dear, Sandra! That's terrible :Fae01: It is a really bad timing for this, isn't it? I hope you'll get to see her - really, really. Stay hydrated! I'm sure they told you that, though. Just sleep all you need too over the weekend and that'll help too. Bless your heart. Prayin' you get better. :hug2:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 13, 2018, 06:30:46 PM
Wowser, everyone either ailing or in the beginning of ailing or getting over ailing, looks like it is going to be one hell of ride for the first month of the year.

Which is the tail end for the Year of the Rooster and the start of the Year of the Dog (in February)

I am going to find me some wood to knock on to say thank you for being healthy
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
J if you're healthy and feel good, you are in a better way than some 90% of the world.  Serious!  No kidding man, when I wake feeling good I celebrate the moment.  If, during any day, I get to feeling GOOD I celebrate that.   These days, those moments are rather fleeting, somewhat rare.  I truly enjoy them!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 13, 2018, 11:36:39 PM
Hey TL,  this is a COFFEE POST!   I notice something unexpected using my stainless tumbler for a coffee cup.   I am drinking way fewer cups of coffee.  See normally when it starts (or IS) getting cold I just swig it down and go fix another cup.   :java:   Then repeat that several times a day.   Now, though, the coffee stays very warm down to the last sip, even two hours later.   That makes a pretty big difference in coffee usage!   Mainly I  just enjoy having hot coffee to the bottom of my 'cup' (14 oz tumbler)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 13, 2018, 11:51:57 PM
J if you're healthy and feel good, you are in a better way than some 90% of the world.  Serious!  No kidding man, when I wake feeling good I celebrate the moment.  If, during any day, I get to feeling GOOD I celebrate that.   These days, those moments are rather fleeting, somewhat rare.  I truly enjoy them!

Trust me we do count our blessings on that topic, I do like the fact that I do not need medication on a daily basis. I also like the concept of not having to make regular trips to a doctor for ailments.

The only ailments I get to carry about I refer to as luggage and they are mild, (sort of, kind of ...) simple stuff like tinnitus, and being near sighted, with a touch of blepharitis,  the TMJ does reek in way we are not capable of describing without needing a good :soapy:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 13, 2018, 11:55:20 PM
Hey TL,  this is a COFFEE POST!   I notice something unexpected using my stainless tumbler for a coffee cup.   I am drinking way fewer cups of coffee.  See normally when it starts (or IS) getting cold I just swig it down and go fix another cup.   :java:   Then repeat that several times a day.   Now, though, the coffee stays very warm down to the last sip, even two hours later.   That makes a pretty big difference in coffee usage!   Mainly I  just enjoy having hot coffee to the bottom of my 'cup' (14 oz tumbler)

We be doing weird things like that except mine is worse I haven't had any :java: in a month we have been drinking or is that swilling down hot tea of various blends ... in great quantities we might add ... why I switched I have no idea.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 14, 2018, 05:45:22 AM
Wowser, everyone either ailing or in the beginning of ailing or getting over ailing, looks like it is going to be one hell of ride for the first month of the year.

Which is the tail end for the Year of the Rooster and the start of the Year of the Dog (in February)

I am going to find me some wood to knock on to say thank you for being healthy

Feel like crap? Can't get your head to work or your chest to breath? Just in time for the Year of the Dog and coming to a Cdn. town near you......... Canine Influenza. You had your Swine Flu, your Bird Flu, your you name the animal flu. Now direct from South Korea via the US we have our latest winter fun game. Dog Flu. Yes ladies and germs we have a flu for you.

Actually, while new to Canada; there is now an outbreak of Canine Influenza wafting through our frigid air. All I can say is thank Dog it doesn't affect humans. I've been sick enough for the last week or so. Mrs. pdg has been bitchin' that I must have it with all the barking coming from my lungs. I informed her that there is a reason Doc Drank-a-stein get's on me about flu shots each fall. I skipped it this year having heard that it was less effective than normal. I lose.


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 14, 2018, 06:54:43 AM
PDG, they do that with me at the VA hosp too.  SO this year they asked/offered late but I accepted, got their flu and pneumonia shot.   Came down with a nasty 'bug' just after and it stuck to me a long time, like Rays did her.   Now it seems I am presenting with a new round of OFS (Old Folks Stuff) to take to the doctor.   Seems as long as we live it never ends, does it?  Heh!
 :ny-fathertime: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 14, 2018, 06:55:43 AM
We be doing weird things like that except mine is worse I haven't had any :java: in a month we have been drinking or is that swilling down hot tea of various blends ... in great quantities we might add ... why I switched I have no idea.

Green Tea?   Good for the body I hear.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: parkdalegardener on January 14, 2018, 07:00:57 AM
PDG, they do that with me at the VA hosp too.  SO this year they asked/offered late but I accepted, got their flu and pneumonia shot.   Came down with a nasty 'bug' just after and it stuck to me a long time, like Rays did her.   Now it seems I am presenting with a new round of OFS (Old Folks Stuff) to take to the doctor.   Seems as long as we live it never ends, does it?  Heh!
 :ny-fathertime: :tearlaugh:

Flu shots are free everywhere. I can get one at the local drug store. Pneumonia is $150. Not happening. Age and health force me to go through this every year with my doc. This year I skipped and I got sick. Such is life.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 14, 2018, 07:50:17 AM
Good morning guys!

TI, I'm sorry to hear that you are ill just in bad time to see your Mom before she goes back to her house. :sigh:
Waiting, take care of you  :3flower;
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 14, 2018, 08:45:23 AM
That is a bummer.   

Good Sunday Morning EVERYONE in the Attic!   Here in the Texas Panhandle we are having a beautiful if freezing sunny morning!   Tomorrow morning it is predicted to be 8°F (-13°C) and just as clear, sunny and dry as now. 
After feeling my tootsies and fingers hurt so from the cold, I somehow no longer miss the
SNOW so much now.    :OMFG:   I am working on keeping the place warm.   All the cats everywhere are looking like sleeping Tribbles!  Heh!   Even the ones napping right in front of the heaters.    I do believe Winter is here now!   So with fresh COFFEE  :java: in hand, I'll wander around a bit and see who is up!    :yippee: :smile:
 :crazysmile: :Hi5: :brrr: :feelgood: :shock: :explode:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 14, 2018, 08:58:25 AM
That is a bummer.   

Good Sunday Morning EVERYONE in the Attic!   Here in the Texas Panhandle we are having a beautiful if freezing sunny morning!   Tomorrow morning it is predicted to be 8°F (-13°C) and just as clear, sunny and dry as now. 
After feeling my tootsies and fingers hurt so from the cold, I somehow no longer miss the
SNOW so much now.    :OMFG:   I am working on keeping the place warm.   All the cats everywhere are looking like sleeping Tribbles!  Heh!   Even the ones napping right in front of the heaters.    I do believe Winter is here now!   So with fresh COFFEE  :java: in hand, I'll wander around a bit and see who is up!    :yippee: :smile:
 :crazysmile: :Hi5: :brrr: :feelgood: :shock: :explode:
Woke up this morning with all three of our cats camping out on my lap (I sleep in an easychair). They were all cuddled up together, and sharing bodyheat with each other and me. When you have to make a run to the little boys' room to do what must be done, having to dump three kitties on the floor is like getting into a sudden fight. Each of them were trying to hang on to me, and stay off that floor! LOLOL Gotta love them!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 14, 2018, 10:04:23 AM
Green Tea?   Good for the body I hear.

Green tea, Hot cinnamon spice, Peppermint, and Earl Grey seem to be the winners


The down side is I have a open container that is half full (out of 3#) a unopened 3# container of coffee just hanging about.


Then there is the sugar I buy for my coffee, and since we shop at SM's there is now nine (9) unopened 22 oz container hanging about the place, since I do not put any sugar in my tea.


:sigh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 14, 2018, 10:41:52 AM
I don't get flu shots. I haven't most all my life because the couple of times I have gotten them I promptly got the flu. I very seldom get the flu but being here in this building where everyone's had it at least once, it was bound to happen. We all seem to be feeling a lot better now at this point - a good thing!

Back in 2005 when my thyroid went whacko while I was on a lay-off period, they called me back to work when everyone at work had the flu (literally everyone), and I never caught it because of my thyroid.

When your metabolism gets all revved up and running high, it causes your body heat/temp to skyrocket and apparently I was so hot that I burned the germs out of me. Gods, that's miserable being that hot, but it kept me from being sick! You have no idea how much your thyroid can mess you up until it happens.

I found it quite interesting though from the standpoint of 'berserk mode' believe it or not. In berserk mode, the warriors are said to become very hot and when they come back the women would pour colder and colder cauldrons of water on them to cool them down. That indicated to me that 'going berserk' must have something to do with a conscious act upon one's thyroid of revving up one's metabolism somehow to the point where that mode kicks in. I know, I'm weird and think of weird stuff - but it fits!

One night, I put on cut off shorts, a summer top and flip-flops and went outside in -10 degree weather because I was so hot. I didn't even get a chill. Nothin'. You don't even sweat. You just feel like you're burning up from the inside.

I had the pleasure of it happening to me about a week and a half ago when I was sick. I mistakenly took one more thyroid pill than I should have. :thud: Stupid me. I won't do that again!   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 14, 2018, 11:07:16 AM
Yes don't do the flu shots either and we still do not get the flu, regardless of what is going on with the others around me.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 14, 2018, 11:15:38 AM
Good Morning,


Looks like from the talk around here the flu is going around.  I believe the last time I had that was in 1968 when the Asian Flu was killing people.  I think what save me I was overweight at the time, my body had some reserves to fight it off.  It seems like I have had colds from time to time.  Also I was taught when I work in the county that washing your hands when finish handling things or coming contact with people will reduce your chances of getting sick.  Without thinking about it your hand seem to go everywhere including your mouth and around the eyes were germs can get into your body.


Hope those who are under the weather get well soon and those who are not sick stay well. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 14, 2018, 11:37:04 AM
After I stopped smoking, I didn't get colds/flu for a long time, like it happened I got a cold last year, and the flu bug this year.   And I think that the flu shot had something to do with that.   It has been GREAT Not Smoking folks!   Really great.  I am wishing that I'd never even started now. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 14, 2018, 11:43:55 AM
Right after my 8th birthday i contracted 3 ailments all at once, and the flu was the least of them. The other 2? Well in order of severity: Pink Eye, and Double Pneumonia. Two or three weeks of my life memory are blank because of it, and I was later told all of it together nearly killed me. All I know is that the parts I can recall were filled with horrible pain and misery. I'd not wish that on my worst enemy.


Since that time though, I've only got the flu once more, and it was a mild case easily dealt with. Flu shots I've only had once, though now I have to wonder why.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 14, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
We all just seem to have our own special metabolisms, weaknesses and immunities. Then too there are those 'just the right time, place and situation' and bang, you're down with something. Often, they are when we're young like that because we haven't yet built up our immunities to half of what's out there. There seems only to be more and more as we get older. Something's always mutating, lurking. Waiting for you. Bwahaha. It's not funny when you get it though, is it? Double pneumonia's enough to do you in all by itself. :yes:

At least if you had to go through that in your life, aren't you glad you did it then instead of now?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 14, 2018, 05:32:03 PM
Excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 14, 2018, 05:35:13 PM
Rest well, Aelin. 
I initially tried to type that into the browser address bar.   :tearlaugh:

No brain surgery tonight, for sure.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 14, 2018, 05:45:09 PM
Rest well, Aelin. 
I initially tried to type that into the browser address bar.   :tearlaugh:

No brain surgery tonight, for sure.

Indeed good sir, should :kianna: swing by to administer to your health and well being?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 14, 2018, 05:54:59 PM
Don't fergit yer tombstone!      :tearlaugh:

 :puah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 14, 2018, 06:11:05 PM
We all just seem to have our own special metabolisms, weaknesses and immunities. Then too there are those 'just the right time, place and situation' and bang, you're down with something. Often, they are when we're young like that because we haven't yet built up our immunities to half of what's out there. There seems only to be more and more as we get older. Something's always mutating, lurking. Waiting for you. Bwahaha. It's not funny when you get it though, is it? Double pneumonia's enough to do you in all by itself. :yes:

At least if you had to go through that in your life, aren't you glad you did it then instead of now?
You could not be more right about anything you said here! Quite glad it is just a dull memory now, and most certainly hope to never experience it again!


Just the year before, I suffered from dislocating my right elbow twice within a month. The second time I had to have surgery to clean the blood and fluids out. And that too is something I never want to experience again. Now that elbow works slightly better than my left one. Wierd, huh?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 14, 2018, 06:35:52 PM
Don't fergit yer tombstone!      :tearlaugh:

 :puah:
:o_go_on:

Just for that I sent you a code quiz teaser via PM

Hope you enjoy

:tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 14, 2018, 07:51:06 PM
Indeed good sir, should :kianna: swing by to administer to your health and well being?

Sadly, no.  We wouldn't want the person with the sharp, pointy objects as woggled as I presently am.  (Seven tries for there to be only words in that sentence.)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 14, 2018, 07:59:34 PM
Wow seven tries to have a spoken language only in the post ... you definitely requires Kianna's aid

She is on her way
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 02:58:29 AM
:o_go_on:

Just for that I sent you a code quiz teaser via PM

Hope you enjoy

 :tearlaugh:

Ah me, t'was like waking up to the Sunday Morning Chronicles or Post comics section.  All in COLOR!   Newspapers. 

ding!  Me and my cousin taught ourselves to read with them.  Yeah, me the class clown/dunce and her our class Valedictorian!    only 678 or so people separated us on graduation day.   Her heading up the Honor Roll march to the podium to receive diplomas, and me bringing up the rear of the class (almost). 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 03:01:47 AM
:o_go_on:

Just for that I sent you a code quiz teaser via PM

Hope you enjoy

 :tearlaugh:


You KNOW I answer these for the fun of it right?   My knowledge is way out of date, my skills dulled from disuse.  Working from jumbled and fading memories.   But it IS fun.  It was real funny to hear I scored better than some of your students.  And its like an open book test right?  Anyway, they HAVE NEC codebooks.  I don't. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 15, 2018, 04:05:06 AM
them students must be lazy to the max and want things handed to them  not work for their  license  but J gonna  make them earn  that license  or repeat the class  as he is the most evil teacher  there  but a great  teacher for making them  learn 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 05:15:25 AM
Which gets me to thinking he can use my answering these as a goad to prod his students.  Which is fine by me!  Cool in fact.  :o)   Heh!   :ny-fathertime: an old codger like me that hasn't turned a hand to the Work in over 10 years now, and I still remember a bunch of that stuff.  I have a 4 year letter for completion of apprenticeship.   None of the companies I worked for wanted me to have a license, said they didn't require one for in-house maintenance.  Blah blah.   They still didn't get out of paying union scale!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 05:24:09 AM
Hey folks, does anyone have any idea what happened to eon website?  You know, VUE?

"The website is temporarily unavailable. Thank you for your patience." and a pretty pic with no website behind is all we be getting for like a couple months now.   Ran into it trying to get into Cornucopia store.  Nope, not happening.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 06:12:34 AM
Hey folks, does anyone have any idea what happened to eon website?  You know, VUE?

"The website is temporarily unavailable. Thank you for your patience." and a pretty pic with no website behind is all we be getting for like a couple months now.   Ran into it trying to get into Cornucopia store.  Nope, not happening.


Whatever it is they're playin' their cards close to the chest on Facebook. Not sayin' what's going on there with them. The people are asking questions and getting no answers. Don't know, can't say.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 07:17:04 AM
Not a whole lot of entries in the COTM "Paradise" contest yet, but you guys are sure going to make it hard to pick one winner!!!

Come on, let's see some more and really give me an impossible task! :cheer:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 15, 2018, 07:25:04 AM
I believe e-on got hacked at some pretty deep level.  Originally the web site response was "security updates", then it switched to "maintenance".  I suspect they've had to call in a security team to try to figure out how to clean up.  Does anyone here know whether France has particularly strict computer security laws? 

I see things on their Facebook page from yesterday where e-on people are responding.

The only thing I don't know because I don't pay much attention to their Facebook page is whether it's the bad guys who've captured the site or it's really them.  After nearly two months, I'd guess it's them, but it's only a guess.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 15, 2018, 07:25:40 AM
Not a whole lot of entries in the COTM "Paradise" contest yet, but you guys are sure going to make it hard to pick one winner!!!

Come on, let's see some more and really give me an impossible task! :cheer:

Working on my first one.   :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 07:26:31 AM
It is 27 ° last I checked on line. Eye-witness weather says it's WET. It's not snowing. It's raining and freezing on the cars and everything that's slightly warm from yesterday is just wet - i.e. the pavement. Sun isn't up yet though.....

Why today? Store day?  :puah:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 07:27:14 AM
Working on my first one.   :thumb_up:

Looking forward to it, Sir Knight!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 07:34:19 AM
I believe e-on got hacked at some pretty deep level.  Originally the web site response was "security updates", then it switched to "maintenance".  I suspect they've had to call in a security team to try to figure out how to clean up.  Does anyone here know whether France has particularly strict computer security laws? 

I see things on their Facebook page from yesterday where e-on people are responding.

The only thing I don't know because I don't pay much attention to their Facebook page is whether it's the bad guys who've captured the site or it's really them.  After nearly two months, I'd guess it's them, but it's only a guess.


I saw where someone had asked "Do we need to worry about our information having been hacked? Please tell us now instead of down the road in some future news story." Someone assuming the hack scenario is the deal there. Their silence seems to point in those sorts of ominous directions.

I know one of the recent images up there is from a long-time VUE user - Adorety on Deviant Art. So I should think it's them managing the Facebook page - unless these are overly clever hackers.

If that's the case of what happened, I don't envy the mess - for anyone involved. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 07:37:30 AM
It's starting to look like a glazed donut out there!  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 15, 2018, 08:22:14 AM
Rest well, Aelin. 
I initially tried to type that into the browser address bar.   :tearlaugh:

No brain surgery tonight, for sure.
:psycho: Maybe it was a sign by your brain that he wanted to go to sleep already.

Oh it's bad if E-on was hacked :OMG:
I'm not sure France has strict security laws for computers, no.
I gave my artist name, so I'm not worried by what hackers can have like infos. Well they have probably my email, but I open not all mails. Specially those I'm sure it's advertising... like E-on :psycho:

It is 27 ° last I checked on line. Eye-witness weather says it's WET. It's not snowing. It's raining and freezing on the cars and everything that's slightly warm from yesterday is just wet - i.e. the pavement. Sun isn't up yet though.....

Why today? Store day?  :puah:
Rain loves to fall when it's the store day. No matter the country!

Good morning guys! Here too it's a rainy day, with a bit of wind.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 08:26:06 AM

You KNOW I answer these for the fun of it right?   My knowledge is way out of date, my skills dulled from disuse.  Working from jumbled and fading memories.   But it IS fun.  It was real funny to hear I scored better than some of your students.  And its like an open book test right?  Anyway, they HAVE NEC codebooks.  I don't. 

When I give them a code quiz yes it is an open book, because I also ask for the code article, this way they improve  (in theory) their ability to find the answers in the code book in a timely manner.

When they get to taking their journeyman's exam it is 70 questions, three hour time limit.


But, if you don't know how to find the answers and have to look them up you will never complete it on time.

The saving grace is that the license exam doesn't require the code reference, so if you know it you can keep going forward, but if you have to stop and look them up and don't know how ... :whattodo: :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 08:30:42 AM
them students must be lazy to the max and want things handed to them  not work for their  license  but J gonna  make them earn  that license  or repeat the class  as he is the most evil teacher  there  but a great  teacher for making them  learn 

Yep, I call it paying it forward as when I took my exam, I passed it first time with a score in the 90's and that is what I stress to them it is not hard if you apply yourself.

Remember the CET exam's I took ... passed them ... and I am a couple three days older now then I was when I took my journeyman's.

So yes, we are hard on them but they are the future going forward and if they can't manage a simple test of knowledge then God help us all.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 09:18:31 AM
When I give them a code quiz yes it is an open book, because I also ask for the code article, this way they improve  (in theory) their ability to find the answers in the code book in a timely manner.

When they get to taking their journeyman's exam it is 70 questions, three hour time limit.


But, if you don't know how to find the answers and have to look them up you will never complete it on time.

The saving grace is that the license exam doesn't require the code reference, so if you know it you can keep going forward, but if you have to stop and look them up and don't know how ... :whattodo: :shrug:

For Texas, Harris Co. back when, they had 4 separate tests, 100 questions each, and you had a current copy of NEC and 4 hours to complete it.   But to just get them to make you an appointment to take your Journeyman test you had to hand them your 4 year letter from your electrical engineer and $200.00.   Pass or fail.  I was amazed there were applicants who did fail.   If you passed, you got your journeyman license, ticket or whatever you want to call it.  It was a State Certification & License.  That is what the state called it. 
I have the 4 year letter (somewhere!) but never took the test for license.   Just couldn't afford that fee at the time.  Too many kids to feed.  Just got the job.  They got edgy about NOT wanting the license, dunno why though.   THEIR Elec. Engineer awarded me the letter, so whassup?   As of now, dunno, doan care! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 09:24:08 AM
Yep, I call it paying it forward as when I took my exam, I passed it first time with a score in the 90's and that is what I stress to them it is not hard if you apply yourself.

Remember the CET exam's I took ... passed them ... and I am a couple three days older now then I was when I took my journeyman's.

So yes, we are hard on them but they are the future going forward and if they can't manage a simple test of knowledge then God help us all.

IF they don't know that code then how can they do the work safely AND make the work safe for USE?   That's a pretty big issue IMO.  So, if they can't pass that test then I wonder how they even got their apprenticeship completion 4 year letter?  They should NOT be allowed to be licensed.   Even if only 1 out of a 1000 applicants pass it, well that is one electrician that can do the work right.  And 999 people HOPEFULLY rethinking some stuff about quick.   I bet they wish they'd studied taking your classes J!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
That is why so many are still bottom feeders they only view this as a paycheck not a career.

And that is why they will get nowhere in this field, I will say this I might be doing something right as in the eight years as an instructor I have only had three fail the class.

They used the language card as their excuse, sorry but that doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 09:51:21 AM
These Journeyman Trades people.  ALL the trades.   They do work that has serious safety concerns.  Like for LIVES man!   Yeah, the instructors/teachers NEED to be hard on the students.  Hard like solid expectations for work done.  Classroom and fieldwork.   I believed in it.   The steel mills and chemical plants are REAL hard teachers.  CRANE Operators/Drivers are certified.  Or they don't work.
See a man in a chromed hard had bend over to pick up a pebble inside the 180KV yard.  You hear a single hard CRACK, one flash of searing white light, heat felt 50 feet away, and the smoking soles of the mans shoes.  The rest was vaporized in a fraction of a second.   A Journeyman is leading 20 apprentices out through the slab yard elevated catwalks to get to the gas tower they will learn about that day.  An overhead crane is carrying a 20 ton slab of cold steel to the roll line for sizing etc.  The crane hits a broad skip in the power  rails.  Lose mag for a split second, and the 20 ton slab lands with a soft sounding THUMP, bunch of dust flies up.  I look at journeyman and said "There were 3 scarfers walking there.  They under it?"   Journeyman nods.  Says "Stay here, we have to witness it'.  He calls shop on radio, tells foreman what happened, 5 mins later a business suited hard hatted legal type runs up, gets us all to sign the report, and we go on to work.    There was a memorial in place for each of those men.   I am working with a "heat team" of Instrument Repairmen replacing thermocouples and leads in the lids and walls of the soaking battery.  HEAT soaking for slabs and ingots.  The team I was with finishes up a 30 min job in 20 and it checks good so we head to the control room.  We begin hydrating and slow warm down.  So about 8 of us saw a nice clean foreman from the roll line run across three of the battery lids real nimble and quick like.  The third caved in, the firebrick crumbled, he went in.  Puff of steam shot up.  Green fire gouted out of the hole he made.  Later when it was under 200F, some people went in, found keys, copper eyes, zipper teeth.   That pit was set to only about 1100F.  Not hot enough to melt metal.  But anything organic?  poof.
Memorial held that Sunday at the battery.  The company was gracious enough to shut down soaking Friday morning so the area would be cool enough for Organics Sunday afternoon.
THAT is the NEED for the kind of safety and harshness it takes to GET it.  I am for it 100 % J.   Seeing these accidents first hand does something to you.   It hardened me against breaking the rules for simple convenience.  The 3 scarfers were supposed to be OUTSIDE the actual cranes superstructure they ride on.  There is a nice 5' wide marked and painted safety walk everywhere it IS safe to walk.  They were supposed to be there.  The bigshot in the 180KV yard should NOT have been inside its fence at all.  Not with the power on.   The slab rolls foreman was taking a shortcut going to lunch, like he'd been doing for years.   ALL employees are warned to never cross hot tops/lids/covers EVER.   Again, safety walkways are everywhere.   Convenience.  Is it worth your LIFE?  Not mine.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 10:25:54 AM
Seconded
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 10:34:57 AM
The National Electric Code is all about one simple thing.  SAFETY.  Fire Safety.  Yet it also helps mightily with protecting the people who have to work with and handle the gear that carries electricity as well as the people who use that gear.    And it's honestly a big deal.   I have seen first hand a number of people DIE because of non-adherence to safety rules.   Even when you obey the rules yourself, the odd thing happens and zapp, boom, pow, bang oh MAN does the poop fly!   yessir.
I was called out on a routine job.  A 3 phase 480 vac welding outlet needed replacing.  I spoke with the foreman, handed him my work order, he read it and handed it back and ordered a shut down for that section of pipe welding.  I took the safety lockout with me, found the correct labeled disconnect box, opened it, checked voltage top and bottom of fuses, pulled the switch down, took the fuses out and pocketed them, closed the door and locked it out.  Went out to open the outlet, and as soon as the screwdriver turned the screw, BLAM.  It exploded.  My lock was cut by the next foreman, new fuses he brought put in and the power turned back on.  That disconnect ALSO powered his crews drops.  It shouldn't have.  Two faults there;  electrician jumping multiple drops and NOT labeling that on the disconnect, and worse, the foreman for cutting the LOCKOUT LOCK.  That is illegal in Texas, and can be a felony offense.   I was wearing all my safety gear.  Including the issued 'basket' side safety glasses, dust mask, hardhat, starched cotton shirt and pants, leather gloves, steel toed safety boots and a good jacket as it was freezing.  The outlet vanished along with its 8 x 8 x 6 " box and half the pipe stanchion it mounted to.  The foreman was fired for not getting me to remove my lockout, and cutting it instead. I went to the emergency room in an ambulance.  Everyone left my gear on, it had quit smoking.  I was just quiet, and concerned.  My whole face burned, eyes felt like on fire, and all I could see was WHITE.   At the e-room, I recognized the doctors voices that worked on me.  They cleaned up all the burnt skin. Gave me a pain killer.  And were pleased to the extreme that all my safety stuff took the brunt of that electrical explosion.  200 amps = a bunch of watts.  I still had the original fuses, knife fuses, in my jacket pocket.  Our foreman came to the ER, they laid everything out for him, I told him what I did and what I know of that happened.  He told me the rest.  When I was released by the docs for work, I reported in, and was told to clock in everything is fine.  Went to shop, foreman and 3 leadment were there argueing about something.  Turned out, it was the guy the jumpered in that other station to that disconnect.  And not labeling it.  Such a simple thing.   The people in all levels of management know better than to cut a safety LOCKOUT LOCK.  But they do it to keep on schedule.  People die for that line of thinking.
The electrician that did that jumping a second station in kept his job, but had to take two weeks off without pay and take the company safety course again.  But was required to make 100% on it.  He did.  Kept his job.  "When you're told to do something, you do it!"  I said yeah, and ya label the disconnect right too!  That one little thing would have changed everything that night.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 15, 2018, 11:22:17 AM
Hi all!

It's late afternoon here and I just tiptoed out of bed to turn on my desktop - the wife is out shopping for victuals and should stay away long enough for me to tell you about a weird dream the confounded fever brought me tonight:

"Aghast in a huge eerie unknown inside that seems to have no begin and no end. In the faint yellowish light big naked hirsute men move around and every now and then they talk to each other in harsh, diffident tones as if no one knew anyone else. I stick frantically to my guide's hand, I know that if I lose him I won't ever get out of here alive. In the thick moist air something looms that could be steam or smoke, there is an odd smell all around. I understand the weird scrawls they use to stick words to things but still those words on the walls mean nothing to me.
Suddenly we are walking on the edge of a big bottomless pit full of black water, and my guide's voice warns me: "Watch out, if you fall in there you are lost forever!". Strange threatening objects protrude from the walls, things I never saw but could be there for nefarious purposes..."


Then I woke up in a cold sweat and it took me a while to realize that I hadn't just had a vision from Dante's Inferno. No, I had to dig about 70 years back in my memory but I found it, clear and sharp as if it had happened yesterday: I was about 3 then and my father had brought me for the first time to a public bathhouse. Not one of those places people go to swim in a large pool and chat and and have fun, just a cheap place where people then went to wash themselves: in those times the rich had their own bathrooms at home, complete with lion-pawed tubs and gas boilers, but the poor had just a cupboard-sized room with a sink and a loo - the lucky ones I mean, for the others had to settle for a wooden board with a hole and a lid, sometimes even outside on the landing. And barely three years after the end of a disastrous war the poor were the absolute majority.

Why am I telling you all this? Well, for the fun of it of course, but also to share my astonishment finding out that what we today would rightfully regard as late Middle Ages are no farther than a lifespan back in the past. A tiny bit of food for thought...

OK, time for me to go back to bed and act sick... problem is, I don't have to act really much and I'm damn fed up with being useless!!! :sad:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 11:38:42 AM
:yikes: to both of the recent posts my goodness
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 15, 2018, 11:57:45 AM
Chiron, I'm very impressed that you could make the connection.

I hope that you are improving, in spite of visions of naked hairy men.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 11:59:38 AM
Well, :kianna: did have to treat his eyes afterwards but he is recovering nicely and should suffer no lingering side effect

:iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 12:03:50 PM
The bonus is that the post did inspire me hunt up my copy of "The Divine Comedy" and do some random paging and reading of the text.

Good stuff there ... just saying ....

Not sure why that motivated me to go back to "Der Ring des Nibelungen"  CD for my listening enjoyment :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 15, 2018, 12:08:45 PM
Good Morning To All.   

Yup....MIA again....   Saturday the Grandson and Mindy came down for a visit.  We went out and got something to eat and Travis and I played pool.   I enjoyed my Ginger Ale...they enjoyed their beer LOL.

We got home and I was in the middle of transfering my Christmas Decorations from Boxes to Plastic Bins when they showed up.  I had my Christmas Gifts on the couch and Travis had got me a "Wifi Range Extender" for Christmas and he said....  "I'll hook this up for you Gramps"  I really didn't need the Extender since I have a great signal but figured it would be rude of me to say "No, I don't need that" and it would also hurt his feelings.....and he DID buy it brand new.

Anyway, to make a long story short...  You have to set the extender up with a Computer Program from Amped Wireless...  As soon as he downloaded it...my Modem stopped working  :thud:

He tried everything and felt real bad but I sent him home later in the day with a hug and said all is fine...I'll figure it out....And they also took Lorna with them so I had the house to myself...well Oz was here also....But even he couldn't figure it out.

I got everything working again after a few phone calls to tech support and will hook up the extender later in the week.  Travis has downloaded the wrong program I guess.  The selection is based on the router you use...he picked the wrong one.

Now to see what I missed...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 12:46:29 PM
Tis the fine print that will get you every time and make you go round in circles.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 15, 2018, 01:04:30 PM
Good, after a brief fight I got her permission to use my laptop in bed - there's a very diligent and inflexible nurse hidden inside every woman, and it takes just a few °C above the red line to summon her :tearlaugh:

Chiron, I'm very impressed that you could make the connection.

So am I... that despicable thing that orchestrates my dreams must be a sadist endowed with plenty of perverse sense of humor!  :upurs3:
But those old traumatic memories are burnt indelibly somewhere between our ears...

Quote
I hope that you are improving, in spite of visions of naked hairy men.

Thank you Sir Knight, I hope so too - or at least that with the help of a few aspirins, paracetamols and ibuprofens the naked hairy men turn to naked smooth girls... :hubbahubba:

The bonus is that the post did inspire me hunt up my copy of "The Divine Comedy" and do some random paging and reading of the text.

Good stuff there ... just saying ....

Plenty of good stuff indeed! :thumb_up:
Should you be looking for strong emotions I warmly (pun intended) recommend you Inferno, Canto XXXII (Count Ugolino being starved to death and... but you'll see for yourself :grin:)
 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 15, 2018, 01:27:30 PM
Good, after a brief fight I got her permission to use my laptop in bed - there's a very diligent and inflexible nurse hidden inside every woman, and it takes just a few °C above the red line to summon her :tearlaugh:
 

Sometimes kicking and screaming works.....LOL....  Hope you get to feeling better soon.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 15, 2018, 01:32:32 PM
Tis the fine print that will get you every time and make you go round in circles.

Travis tends to be one of those "I know what I'm doing so I don't need to read a thing" type of folks.  Which means he spends more time trying to figure out what WENT WRONG then he would reading the instructions to get things working right the first time.   But I still love him....and he did volunteer to try and set it up....and he did admit defeat....which for him is the toughest lesson learned.  You may THINK you know it all...but you DON'T.....  He's young....  I know folks a lot older then him that are still trying to learn that lesson :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 15, 2018, 01:33:50 PM
Gotta take Lorna to work...After I clear the walk and drive again...Darn Snow.

Will be back shortly...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 01:44:36 PM

Plenty of good stuff indeed! :thumb_up:
Should you be looking for strong emotions I warmly (pun intended) recommend you Inferno, Canto XXXII (Count Ugolino being starved to death and... but you'll see for yourself :grin: )
 

Will have to read that while I wait for the dough in the machine to finish with the prepping of ... for my next loaf of home made bread  ... Guess collection three of the Nibelungen opera, "Siegfried" disc one will be a good background noise (music) to listen while reading. :heeheehee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 15, 2018, 03:02:05 PM
@ Chiron - its good to see you doing better!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 03:04:46 PM

Plenty of good stuff indeed! :thumb_up:
Should you be looking for strong emotions I warmly (pun intended) recommend you Inferno, Canto XXXII (Count Ugolino being starved to death and... but you'll see for yourself :grin: )
 

How odd didn't run across that in XXXII but in Canto XXXIII is the text of starvation and a bit of peculiar eating habits

... shudder ...


Up to disc three of Siegfried now and the new experiment of bread is in the oven :woohoo:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 04:05:12 PM
Nice to see you're feeling frisky and better, Chiron! Wow, that's a 'way back' memory to pick up on! It must have indeed had a big influence on you to stick with you like that.

Die Niebelungenleid and Dante's Inferno all rolled up in one. Strange combination there. What time does the next swan leave?

Hope you're feeling better today as well, Sir Knight!

And we all hope Sandra is speedily recovering :peek:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 04:07:44 PM
I have schtuff to make a big fat juicy cheeseburger!! :yippee: All I can say is I'd better make it perfect or I'm going to be disappointed and have to beat myself up.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 15, 2018, 04:08:43 PM
Thanks, sidherose.  A little better every day.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 04:11:58 PM

Die Niebelungenleid and Dante's Inferno all rolled up in one. Strange combination there. What time does the next swan leave?
 

Soon I think as we are on the last disc for the Siegfried section and getting ready to start Götterdämmerung

 :tearlaugh:

Cut and dried mindless sheep obviously we are not, might not get everything I read or listen to .... though one does have to start somewhere right?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 15, 2018, 04:41:20 PM
Will have to read that while I wait for the dough in the machine to finish with the prepping of ... for my next loaf of home made bread  ... Guess collection three of the Nibelungen opera, "Siegfried" disc one will be a good background noise (music) to listen while reading. :heeheehee:
You'll hardly regret it Doc - provided that you go for Canto XXXIII (33) instead of my typoed XXXII - let me blame it upon the fever, will you?

Opps, you already noticed... I'm blushing hot :blush2:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 15, 2018, 04:44:19 PM
Hi guys. Just a quick stop. Left work early on Wednesday, went to urgent care and they say I have early symptoms of the flu, ugh......so been sick since then. Feel much better today, no more body aches but still tired, sleeping on and off. so letting you know, in case I don't stop by for a few more days.....Oh I'm very pissed, not that it's anyone fault but didn't want to get sick now, my mom was suppose to come up this coming Monday and stay til Thursday, since she is heading back to the island Sunday the 21  :thud: :sad: ...I'm so pissed, sad, stupid influenza

So sorry to hear that about missing your Mom's visit....but Best way to handle it was the way you did.  She doesn't need to get sick...that's for sure.  Hope you get to feeling better soon.....  HUGS
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 15, 2018, 04:47:08 PM
I have schtuff to make a big fat juicy cheeseburger!! :yippee: All I can say is I'd better make it perfect or I'm going to be disappointed and have to beat myself up.

Cook it the way you always cook it and all will be good.  Don't do what I do on occasion when I'm cooking a favorite..... "Hummm, Let's try some of this...."   

It never works  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 04:59:01 PM
You'll hardly regret it Doc - provided that you go for Canto XXXIII (33) instead of my typoed XXXII - let me blame it upon the fever, will you?

Opps, you already noticed... I'm blushing hot :blush2:

:iminnocent:

Forgiven
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 15, 2018, 05:01:31 PM
Nice to see you're feeling frisky and better, Chiron! Wow, that's a 'way back' memory to pick up on! It must have indeed had a big influence on you to stick with you like that.

Die Niebelungenleid and Dante's Inferno all rolled up in one. Strange combination there. What time does the next swan leave?

Not as well and as fast as you, Sidherose - glad to see that your probiotics are working miracles! :smile:

Oh, I have plenty of those flashbacks, all damn sharp... my father was persuaded he was an 'educator' and his strongest belief was that children should be exposed to all harshness of life as soon as possible to make them stronger. Not bad for a pediatrician, huh?

I definitely love Dante's Inferno - it's wonderful to see how a brilliant man can drop his bigotry and become a really great poet when he gets carried away by his own work.
Das Nibelungenlied I find enjoyable too (if at times a little heavy) in its traditional written form; unfortunately though to enjoy it in music I should first have to learn how to digest Wagner... :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 15, 2018, 05:05:59 PM
That is an art form in and of itself I can't say I understand or appreciate it to its fullest  ... well ...  :shrug: sort of, kind of, maybe, if I don't strain myself
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 05:25:03 PM
Thanks, sidherose.  A little better every day.

One day you'll wake up and feel splendid again :yes: I just know it :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 15, 2018, 05:33:29 PM
I see some of you feel better. That's great.
For all others, take care of you!

Excellent end of day to all!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 05:38:52 PM
Not as well and as fast as you, Sidherose - glad to see that your probiotics are working miracles! :smile:

Oh, I have plenty of those flashbacks, all damn sharp... my father was persuaded he was an 'educator' and his strongest belief was that children should be exposed to all harshness of life as soon as possible to make them stronger. Not bad for a pediatrician, huh?

I definitely love Dante's Inferno - it's wonderful to see how a brilliant man can drop his bigotry and become a really great poet when he gets carried away by his own work.
Das Nibelungenlied I find enjoyable too (if at times a little heavy) in its traditional written form; unfortunately though to enjoy it in music I should first have to learn how to digest Wagner... :winks:


I wouldn't say I got over mine fast. I was sick for almost two months with that stuff. I just got a break in the middle and then re-attacked again on New Years day. I'm convinced it was the magical Loaded Baked Potato Soup that made me feel better. Seems like it was anyway.

That seems to have been a common sentiment about that time - that all the 'tender' ones needed to be toughened up. It was a bad time. Maybe in some ways a good thing as long was it wasn't too horribly traumatic. Although seeing a lot of hairy, naked men could be considered such. Lol.

Have you ever considered the story of those in the Niebelungenleid? What a couple of families! But, that's how things were back then from what I read. No one wanted you dead more than the members of your family! Especially in THAT extended family. Not particularly a fan of Wagner's music? I like it. It's big, loud and powerful as music for Nordic heroes, villains and dragons should be! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 15, 2018, 05:40:17 PM
I see some of you feel better. That's great.
For all others, take care of you!

Excellent end of day to all!

Good night to you, Aelin. A nice warm day for you tomorrow! :peek:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 15, 2018, 06:13:37 PM
Have a wonderful Night Aelin......Thanks for the great items today....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Sbriggs on January 15, 2018, 10:18:46 PM
Hey Gramps! Fancy seeing you here??  <LOL>
 :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 16, 2018, 12:07:10 AM

Cook it the way you always cook it and all will be good.  Don't do what I do on occasion when I'm cooking a favorite..... "Hummm, Let's try some of this...."   

It never works  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:

Gotta weigh in on this one! Cooking and baking is yet another art form, and I am one that likes to treat it as such. My concoctions almost always turn out to be awesome. I get compliments from everybody that tries most of what I cook or bake. Comes from having a great cook for a mother, and another one for a father. All five of my siblings learned from them same as me, so I have a large family of great cooks. On top of that, both grandmothers and grandfathers were great cooks, and their parents before them were also. There was no way any of us would not follow in their footsteps. I have only two cousins that are not good at cooking, and I have a lot of cousins. Most of us really enjoy cooking and baking, me most definitely included!
 :feelgood: :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 03:32:12 AM
Hey Gramps! Fancy seeing you here??  <LOL>
 :shrug:

Hey Stephen!  good to see you this morning!    :sno2: It's 3°F out, and not a lot warmer in!    :ny-fathertime: These old bones feel it when it gets under 60 these days.   So you get anywhere in that little contest?  lots of high power artists hang around here.    We're right at home  here! :tearlaugh: :shock: :yippee: :smile: :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 16, 2018, 03:52:09 AM
That seems to have been a common sentiment about that time - that all the 'tender' ones needed to be toughened up.

Like for instance by telling a 5 years old that his skeleton was needed to study it and thus he would be dissolved in acid? Or having him feed and cuddle a little rabbit for one week before dissecting it for scientific purposes, and then feeding him its remains? Maybe Hitler would have approved of those educational methods (if perhaps finding them a little extreme) but rest assured that I wasn't particularly fond of them...
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It was a bad time. Maybe in some ways a good thing as long was it wasn't too horribly traumatic. Although seeing a lot of hairy, naked men could be considered such. Lol.

No, hairy naked men didn't come even close to traumatizing me - after all that's just the way we are beneath the clothes, aren't we?  :winks:
But perhaps the rest wasn't the best way to make one feel welcome to the world :yippee:

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Have you ever considered the story of those in the Niebelungenleid? What a couple of families! But, that's how things were back then from what I read. No one wanted you dead more than the members of your family! Especially in THAT extended family.

You tell me that?  :(ROFLMAO:

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Not particularly a fan of Wagner's music? I like it. It's big, loud and powerful as music for Nordic heroes, villains and dragons should be! 

Matter of taste, as most things are. I like music that whispers, and Wagner shouts  :incoming:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 04:05:56 AM
SF Humor, noted this morning.   Imagine being members of species which name is pronounced "Doggone Daggies!"   :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :perverted:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 05:00:09 AM
The local NOAA Weather page says it will be 0°F here in just a little bit.   :sno2: :sno3: :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 16, 2018, 05:28:25 AM
That is just so wrong on so many levels

I guess we folk in Florida must be having what you would call a heat wave then, tis 47° now with highs expected to reach 69 fascinating degrees followed up by a low tonight of 32°

:sigh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 06:55:39 AM
Ha!   REALLY?  ALL 69 Fascinating Degrees of Fahrenheit?!   WELL, Mr. Temp snob, WE have a wind chill right now of -7°F to -17°F and an actual of 1°F (yes that is ONE degree above zero!) or (drum roll please) -17°C  :sno2: :sno3: :ny-fathertime:   and I ain't laughing neither!   :shiv3: :shock: :nopanic; :OMFG:

Got the gas heater UP the electric heater UP and tempted to go light a couple of burners on the stove too.   Man I feel COLD!   I put long sleeve flannel shirt on over tshirt.  Might pull on a jacket too.   

That one degree is probably a -1 but the stuff inside the thermometer has turned to slushy goop and don't register too quick now!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 06:57:12 AM
I remember what the weather was like in Florida.  Just about the same as in Houston!    :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 16, 2018, 07:43:13 AM
Good morning guys!
It's not a sunny here too you know. Rain and wind  :sno3: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 07:44:56 AM
Like for instance by telling a 5 years old that his skeleton was needed to study it and thus he would be dissolved in acid? Or having him feed and cuddle a little rabbit for one week before dissecting it for scientific purposes, and then feeding him its remains? Maybe Hitler would have approved of those educational methods (if perhaps finding them a little extreme) but rest assured that I wasn't particularly fond of them...

Didn't say I approved of it, just that it was. That's cruel and just a *bit* deranged.
 

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No, hairy naked men didn't come even close to traumatizing me - after all that's just the way we are beneath the clothes, aren't we?  :winks:

Some worse than others.
 

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You tell me that?  :(ROFLMAO:

Really, I was asking. I don't know what other people hit on in great mythic stories like that. Is it the total chaotic undertow, or the surficial stuff that are the great distractors - war, power, revenge, etc.

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Matter of taste, as most things are. I like music that whispers, and Wagner shouts  :incoming:

True that. If I want soft whispering music, I listen to the French, Spanish or certain Eastern musics. Ponderous, dark music - Russian. They all have their moods, places and times for me.

The best music of all is the wind soughing through the trees, birds, squirrels and a little stream. :smiley:   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 07:47:41 AM
OMG... Are we bragging about who's got the hottest and the coldest now?

 :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 16, 2018, 08:03:10 AM
The best music of all is the wind soughing through the trees, birds, squirrels and a little stream. :smiley:   

Add the waves crashing gently on a lonely beach and I'll agree 101% with you  :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 16, 2018, 08:11:24 AM
OMG... Are we bragging about who's got the hottest and the coldest now?

 :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:

Alas, I'd sell my soul (and it would be fraud :winks: ) to brag with you about the local climate - but there's nothing to brag about here! There must be something duller than what I'm seeing out the window now, but at the moment it escapes me.
Gray, wet, boring, a stupid 8°C on the thermometer, a nasty wind... the ideal day to bury my nose in a good book and forget there's a weather at all :sad:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:20:36 AM
Add the waves crashing gently on a lonely beach and I'll agree 101% with you  :smile:

:thumb_up: You got it :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:23:00 AM
Alas, I'd sell my soul (and it would be fraud :winks: ) to brag with you about the local climate - but there's nothing to brag about! There must be something duller than what I'm seeing out the window now, but at the moment it escapes me.
Gray, wet, boring, a stupid 8°C on the thermometer, a nasty wind... the ideal day to bury my nose in a good book and forget there's a weather at all :sad:

All I know is ours keeps changing it's mind about if it's winter or fall. This up and down stuff is crazy.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:24:22 AM
Good afternoon across the sea, Aelin.  :sno3:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:09:53 AM
Good morning everyone!    Ray I think J was bragging, but I was complaining.  Just a little bit.  Fingers are so stiff from the cold can baarely type!   :sno2: It don't do us  :ny-fathertime: much good to bear this stuff.  Be far far worse if I was out in it!   Oh neat, its warmed up to 5°F now.  :yippee:   It didn't hit 0 after all.  :thud:   Heh!
I think I'll fix another coffee and watch a movie.  And probably nap during it.   :winks: :tearlaugh: :shock:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 09:22:16 AM
My solution is always "Put on more clothes!" Two pairs of pants, socks and legwarmers, two-three shirts (one must be a hoodie) and my robe. Oh, and my fingerless gloves.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 16, 2018, 10:12:35 AM
Here we can add wings on clothes now  :tearlaugh: A storm has just came now :panic: I didn't expect that.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
This hundred year old house isn't taking to being warmed up too good!   :sno2: :sno3:
And I feel like I'm barely behind it in age. :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 16, 2018, 12:16:27 PM
Evening all. Here is 24°, we got some snow this morning but nothing major. Bu they are announcing advisories as it's suppose to start snowing later this evening and into tomorrow evening. Tonight and morning with bad iced roads....why does it always has to happen when I have to be at work at 6am?  :thud: .....maybe I'll just stay home again, since I'm still not 100% better from flu(been out of work since last Thursday) :zipit: :java:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 12:17:30 PM
Good Morning to all....

Right now we are at 17 degrees.   Pretty nice really.  Went to the shed to put some items away and didn't need the coat and hat.  When there is no wind...it's just brisk.  When you have the wind...it's Damn Cold.

Anyhow.   Got some things to finish up in here and shall return in a bit....with :java: in hand.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 12:19:43 PM
Evening all. Here is 24°, we got some snow this morning but nothing major. Bu they are announcing advisories as it's suppose to start snowing later this evening and into tomorrow evening. Tonight and morning with bad iced roads....why does it always has to happen when I have to be at work at 6am?  :thud: .....maybe I'll just stay home again, since I'm still not 100% better from flu(been out of work since last Thursday) :zipit: :java:

Yup...make sure your 100% well otherwise you'll be doing a repeat of how you're feeling now sooner than you think.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 12:22:00 PM
All I know is ours keeps changing it's mind about if it's winter or fall. This up and down stuff is crazy.

Tell me about it....they are saying we will be close to 50 degrees by Sunday  :thud:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 12:37:58 PM
Evening all. Here is 24°, we got some snow this morning but nothing major. Bu they are announcing advisories as it's suppose to start snowing later this evening and into tomorrow evening. Tonight and morning with bad iced roads....why does it always has to happen when I have to be at work at 6am?  :thud: .....maybe I'll just stay home again, since I'm still not 100% better from flu(been out of work since last Thursday) :zipit: :java:

Stay home. You go out there, all you'll do is get stressed out driving in that stuff and get sicker or set yourself back. Really hon, do yourself a favor and stay home.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 12:40:46 PM

Tell me about it....they are saying we will be close to 50 degrees by Sunday  :thud:


50 something tomorrow and up to 65 by Friday. Then it's supposed to snow again on Saturday. Today is warmer than the predicted 30, I think. Like yours, it's fine until the wind decides to blow. Who knows what it's going to do - in reality?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 12:55:04 PM
Hey y'all, check out this weeks forecast.   Looks like fun huh?   :tearlaugh: :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 16, 2018, 01:51:46 PM
Stay home. You go out there, all you'll do is get stressed out driving in that stuff and get sicker or set yourself back. Really hon, do yourself a favor and stay home.
Think I am....It started snowing here and big flakes, lots coming down
 :sno7:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 02:21:11 PM
Heya TI!  Take pictures of the falling big snowflakes.  You might get to see some of those beautiful patterns!   Through the windows, of course.   You're still fighting the bug, stay in, stay warm, be well!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 03:35:06 PM
Three science stations in Wisconsin are taking pictures of snowflakes just to find two that are alike....or if the claim that no two are alike is truly true.   And they get paid to do that......  I want that job.....  said no one I know  :sno2: :sno3:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 03:44:46 PM
Hey y'all, check out this weeks forecast.   Looks like fun huh?   :tearlaugh: :ny-fathertime:

The New Winter Roller Coaster! Up and Down she goes and where she stops nobody knows.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 03:46:04 PM
Three science stations in Wisconsin are taking pictures of snowflakes just to find two that are alike....or if the claim that no two are alike is truly true.   And they get paid to do that......  I want that job.....  said no one I know  :sno2: :sno3:

There are no two crystals alike. They're wasting their time.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
Think I am....It started snowing here and big flakes, lots coming down
 :sno7:

:cheer: I know I'm a bad influence :yes:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 03:49:02 PM
Yup....Mythbusters proved that.  I always say "Who needs science when you have the Mythbusters...."   :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 03:52:19 PM
Who needs science when you have a pound of hamburger, cheese, buns, bacon, ketchup, relish, and lettuce?

Later........ :heeheehee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 04:09:00 PM
The science is to see how slow you can eat it......LOLOL......  After the long bout you have had of not eating anything healthy (my opinion of healthy mind you).....this should be the jist of your science project.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 05:09:31 PM
It was fabulous. I outdid myself. My tummy is ecstatic!!! Slow....considering how badly I've been wanting one - I think I ate it rather 'sedately'.  :tearlaugh:

One organic, grass-fed beef patty on a toasted onion bun with two pieces of cooked bacon, Muenster cheese (melted), lettuce, ketchup, relish and some slices of yellow banana peppers.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 16, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
Excellent for you Ray! :thumb_up: I guess now stomach want to be completely back like before, like he remembers what he missed during all these weeks :winks:

Excellent end of day guys!
And if you see somebody flying above your roof, it's probably me  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 16, 2018, 05:57:29 PM
Ray, that makes me hungry just to hear the description.

Aelin, perhaps you need an anchor!

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 06:08:58 PM
I know what you mean Sir Knight.....  I'm checking to see what I have in the fridge that would allow me to even come close to that burger.....So far NO DICE.....


Have a wonderful night Aelin.....Thanks for a great day.....

Ray.....I'm soooo glad you got to enjoy your meal.....ABOUT DAMN TIME.........LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Sbriggs on January 16, 2018, 06:14:22 PM
Hey Stephen!  good to see you this morning!    :sno2: It's 3°F out, and not a lot warmer in!    :ny-fathertime: These old bones feel it when it gets under 60 these days.   So you get anywhere in that little contest?  lots of high power artists hang around here.    We're right at home  here! :tearlaugh: :shock: :yippee: :smile: :winks:

No, it didn't come out very well and I posted it to the wrong place.  Never mind. I'll figger it out sooner or later.   :dispute:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 06:18:11 PM
Use the  :dispute: on Mc-G SBriggs....He should be showing you around LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 16, 2018, 06:34:48 PM
You know, just when one thinks that things like this are apocryphal, along comes:

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/j-ai-vu-une-tete-de-serpent-sortir-de-mes-wc-15-01-2018-7502895.php (http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/j-ai-vu-une-tete-de-serpent-sortir-de-mes-wc-15-01-2018-7502895.php)

A Google translate (very) partial quote:

"And I could very well have been bitten to a sensitive place, if you know what I mean.  "
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 06:44:31 PM
LOLOL....Read the whole story and when I got to that part I chuckled....and continued reading.....all I can say is YIKES......
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 16, 2018, 07:10:32 PM
if he would have bit the wrong  place you would be in a world of  hurt  shudder to think of  it
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 16, 2018, 07:24:46 PM
I know what you mean Sir Knight.....  I'm checking to see what I have in the fridge that would allow me to even come close to that burger.....So far NO DICE.....


Indeed, nothing over here except a baked potato smothered with all the good seasonings along with a fat juicy slab of Haddock and some home made bread

 :sigh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 07:45:14 PM
LOL....That sounds pretty darn good also.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 07:57:32 PM
Excellent for you Ray! :thumb_up: I guess now stomach want to be completely back like before, like he remembers what he missed during all these weeks :winks:

Excellent end of day guys!
And if you see somebody flying above your roof, it's probably me  :tearlaugh:


I think you're right about my stomach. Maybe I gained a few more pounds too.

If you're flying over my roof you must be freezing and hungry! I know you don't want a hamburger though. Lol.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 07:59:32 PM
You know, just when one thinks that things like this are apocryphal, along comes:

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/j-ai-vu-une-tete-de-serpent-sortir-de-mes-wc-15-01-2018-7502895.php (http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/j-ai-vu-une-tete-de-serpent-sortir-de-mes-wc-15-01-2018-7502895.php)

A Google translate (very) partial quote:

"And I could very well have been bitten to a sensitive place, if you know what I mean.  "


All I can say to that is  :yikes:  It looks like it shed part of it's skin when it was crawling out of the toilet.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:01:20 PM
Indeed, nothing over here except a baked potato smothered with all the good seasonings along with a fat juicy slab of Haddock and some home made bread

 :sigh:


For some reason, the words 'fat juicy' never applied themselves to a piece of haddock in my mind, but I'm sure it'll be good with the baked potato!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:07:36 PM
No, it didn't come out very well and I posted it to the wrong place.  Never mind. I'll figger it out sooner or later.   :dispute:


Yes and I'm not even sure how you posted it where you did  :tearlaugh: You're not supposed to be able to post in there. That's okay though. I moved it out of there for you into "Anything Goes". You are free to move it wherever you like, or if you can't figure out how to do that, you tell me which Gallery you really want it in and I'll move it for you.

All you really have to do is "Edit File Information" and change to the Gallery you want it in, in the Gallery name space, then save it.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Sbriggs on January 16, 2018, 08:23:24 PM

Yes and I'm not even sure how you posted it where you did  :tearlaugh: You're not supposed to be able to post in there. That's okay though. I moved it out of there for you into "Anything Goes". You are free to move it wherever you like, or if you can't figure out how to do that, you tell me which Gallery you really want it in and I'll move it for you.

All you really have to do is "Edit File Information" and change to the Gallery you want it in, in the Gallery name space, then save it.


Thank's but it's okay. I'd read somewhere here about a call for renders to do with "Paradise" and that's where I tried to post it.
Honestly, I shouldn't be allowed around sharp objects. Even just now, I thought it said "Reply to Moderator" but it said "Report", not "Reply". Please ignore my weird comment if you see it. I'm old and easily confused.

 :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 16, 2018, 08:26:01 PM

For some reason, the words 'fat juicy' never applied themselves to a piece of haddock in my mind, but I'm sure it'll be good with the baked potato!

You might to be on to something there... how about we call it abuse of poetic license ... and yes it was good with ye ole baked potato and  a slice of home made bread
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: DarkAngel on January 16, 2018, 08:36:26 PM

Thank's but it's okay. I'd read somewhere here about a call for renders to do with "Paradise" and that's where I tried to post it.
Honestly, I shouldn't be allowed around sharp objects. Even just now, I thought it said "Reply to Moderator" but it said "Report", not "Reply". Please ignore my weird comment if you see it. I'm old and easily confused.

 :ny-fathertime:

Those little itty bitty icons can give a person issues and although the bodies are "old" the spirit is not and that fits most of us here to a T

Maybe someone will remember where the "Paradise" thing is cause I barely remember seeing it somewhere too.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:51:10 PM
Those little itty bitty icons can give a person issues and although the bodies are "old" the spirit is not and that fits most of us here to a T

Maybe someone will remember where the "Paradise" thing is cause I barely remember seeing it somewhere too.

It's the COTM for January - What's Your Idea of Paradise on Earth?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:52:23 PM
You might to be on to something there... how about we call it abuse of poetic license ... and yes it was good with ye ole baked potato and  a slice of home made bread

Okay :) We'll call it an abuse of poetic license. Hahahahaha. What kind of bread did you make, J?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 08:52:27 PM
Three science stations in Wisconsin are taking pictures of snowflakes just to find two that are alike....or if the claim that no two are alike is truly true.   And they get paid to do that......  I want that job.....  said no one I know  :sno2: :sno3:

wow.  Makes me wonder if the FBI is looking to see if any two fingerprints are alike.  Mmmmm.  HMMM!   Weird Science huh!   Tedious monotonous work.  YAWN!  zzzz     zzzzz     

 :tearlaugh:    :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 08:53:25 PM
Those little itty bitty icons can give a person issues and although the bodies are "old" the spirit is not and that fits most of us here to a T

Maybe someone will remember where the "Paradise" thing is cause I barely remember seeing it somewhere too.

"PARADISE" is the COTM for January....  Go HERE (http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?topic=17854.msg307755#msg307755) for Details...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 08:54:44 PM
The New Winter Roller Coaster! Up and Down she goes and where she stops nobody knows.

I woke a few  minutes ago feeling like it had to be up in the 70's out.   Just checked, it's 18° out.  Doh!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:55:26 PM
The January COTM is here:

http://thefantasiesattic.net/attic/index.php?topic=17854.0
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 08:55:35 PM
That's close to 70....Depending on where you live  LOLOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 08:58:14 PM
LOL....That COTM is sure getting a lot of Attention......

I hear my Mail calling me over....so I'm going to go and check and see how many of the 264 E Mails, 147 Spam, and 146 Fantasy Attic Posts I'll keep in the archive. 

Well, the Attic and Realms have their own folders and all posts are filtered into them.....just got to mark them READ....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:58:28 PM

Thank's but it's okay. I'd read somewhere here about a call for renders to do with "Paradise" and that's where I tried to post it.
Honestly, I shouldn't be allowed around sharp objects. Even just now, I thought it said "Reply to Moderator" but it said "Report", not "Reply". Please ignore my weird comment if you see it. I'm old and easily confused.

 :ny-fathertime:


Oh, ya can't be THAT old for heaven's sake. :odd:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 08:59:55 PM
That's close to 70....Depending on where you live  LOLOL


Yeah, like Antarctica!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: DarkAngel on January 16, 2018, 09:00:04 PM
I woke a few  minutes ago feeling like it had to be up in the 70's out.   Just checked, it's 18° out.  Doh!

Having to watch me bow wow cause we nearly lost him---seems to be improving--- I got up around5 this evening. Right now it is 5 degrees outside and we won't discuss the temp inside the house. Down to one space heater so we are being preserved. :sno2:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:07:55 PM
Yup....Mythbusters proved that.  I always say "Who needs science when you have the Mythbusters...."   :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:

Hey wait wait!   Ahh nevermind....   one IS, one is NOT . . . or something


Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 09:08:24 PM
Having to watch me bow wow cause we nearly lost him---seems to be improving--- I got up around5 this evening. Right now it is 5 degrees outside and we won't discuss the temp inside the house. Down to one space heater so we are being preserved. :sno2:

Ohhhhh jeez, Mary :Fae01:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:08:49 PM
Who needs science when you have a pound of hamburger, cheese, buns, bacon, ketchup, relish, and lettuce?

Later........ :heeheehee:

Spoken like someone who is HUNGRY!    :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:11:10 PM
It was fabulous. I outdid myself. My tummy is ecstatic!!! Slow....considering how badly I've been wanting one - I think I ate it rather 'sedately'.  :tearlaugh:

One organic, grass-fed beef patty on a toasted onion bun with two pieces of cooked bacon, Muenster cheese (melted), lettuce, ketchup, relish and some slices of yellow banana peppers.

Oh that sounds GOOOOOD!    :congrats: :yippee: :shock: :heeheehee:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:12:43 PM
Excellent for you Ray! :thumb_up: I guess now stomach want to be completely back like before, like he remembers what he missed during all these weeks :winks:

Excellent end of day guys!
And if you see somebody flying above your roof, it's probably me  :tearlaugh:

Even if her tummy doesn't, her brain *definitely* does!    :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:14:19 PM
Ray, that makes me hungry just to hear the description.

Aelin, perhaps you need an anchor!

And now we bring you TFA's evening news!   Oh wait, wrong anchor . . .  well I tried!   :tearlaugh:         :ny-fathertime:      :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:15:54 PM
Use the  :dispute: on Mc-G SBriggs....He should be showing you around LOLOL

Oh man I do good just to find the Coffee Shop myself!   :tearlaugh:            :ny-fathertime:          :sno2:      :shrug:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:22:27 PM

Thank's but it's okay. I'd read somewhere here about a call for renders to do with "Paradise" and that's where I tried to post it.
Honestly, I shouldn't be allowed around sharp objects. Even just now, I thought it said "Reply to Moderator" but it said "Report", not "Reply". Please ignore my weird comment if you see it. I'm old and easily confused.

 :ny-fathertime:

Man  when I finally figured out how to converse consistently in HERE I just gave up on everything else!    :shh2: :yeow: :dispute: :OMFG: :nopanic; :explode: :shock: :winks:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 09:34:26 PM
Oh that sounds GOOOOOD!    :congrats: :yippee: :shock: :heeheehee:

It was DIVINE :angelstaff:

In fact, it was downright orgasmic...as far as my taste buds, stomach and mind were concerned. Lol...these days, that's about all gets concerned. :shrug: Anything else makes me :crazy: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 09:42:28 PM
If you click on the word FORUM up there at the top, it opens a whole 'ladder' full of topics. They ARE in some semblance of order that you'll eventually figure out if you dare to explore. Then a lot of 'hot topics' are over in the left sidebar that you can just click on.

Feel free to explore. You might find a lot of goodies - like in Aelin's Fantastic Finds. There's the 'Contests Wing' where all the contests are. The 'COTM' stands for Contest of the Month. As indicated, a monthly contest; as is the Monthly Contest for January, February, etc. See if you can find the Coffee Shop Gardens in there for grins.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:44:11 PM
 :happydance: :Hi5: :dancingknight: :feelgood: :yippee: :smile: :shock: :thumb_up: :cheer:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:46:54 PM
OR sometimes even better is the JUMP TO list box just below the bottom post and a bit to the right.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 09:48:05 PM
Hey Ray, he gets lost just as easily as I do.    :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 09:48:22 PM
Well Boys and Girls....and whatever else we have in here.......  It's time to sign off.   

So far it looks like a NO SHOVEL day tomorrow.  So that is a good thing I'm thinking....Gotta defrost the brain according to Ray  :java:    :sno2: :sno3: :tearlaugh:

Have a great night everyone   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 09:49:56 PM
And now we bring you TFA's evening news!   Oh wait, wrong anchor . . .  well I tried!   :tearlaugh:         :ny-fathertime:      :shrug:


The vision of Aelin flying over my roof isn't quite as picturesque as it would be from the old part of where she lives, with the nice pitched roofs and chimney pots. It reminds me of a French artist who would paint children and people floating above the roofs holding onto a balloon. I cannot think of his name for the life of me. I think he painted mostly in the period of Magritte and Ernst. Kind of a cubist but cartoonish at the same time.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 09:52:06 PM
Hey Ray, he gets lost just as easily as I do.    :ny-fathertime:

 :alice2: Well, the way you get un-lost is to figure out where you are!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 09:55:04 PM
:#1kitteh: That just sounded like such an Alice thing to say.

Or would that be this one  :c-cat:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 16, 2018, 10:00:56 PM
Have a great evening TL and yes, you need to thaw out some for the next few days. And :yippee: that you can!

Thanks for getting the contest suggestions started.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 10:05:11 PM

The vision of Aelin flying over my roof isn't quite as picturesque as it would be from the old part of where she lives, with the nice pitched roofs and chimney pots. It reminds me of a French artist who would paint children and people floating above the roofs holding onto a balloon. I cannot think of his name for the life of me. I think he painted mostly in the period of Magritte and Ernst. Kind of a cubist but cartoonish at the same time.

Quote
OH my goodness Ray!   You have stirred up a vision of Mary Poppins and her beloved Chimney Sweep!    Been LONG time since I saw that one.

:tearlaugh: Eh, that wasn't exactly what I was going for, but glad you liked it :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 10:07:39 PM
Now that I have my Computer room back I can do the Newsletter/Sales Bulletin without having to jump hoops...


Have a great night Ray.....It's been a fun day.   

Now I have to get ready to pick Lorna up and decide what WE want to eat tonight.   Yes....I wait till she's off before I fix anything to eat.  Might as well keep it fresh and it matters not to me what time I eat LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 16, 2018, 10:12:20 PM
Hey McG, sorry no pictures, too cold out there. it stopped snowing earlier in the day and it started again....
@Ray, yeap, bad(in a good way) influence and I just finished calling out for work  :sno: :sno7: :yippee: . Told my supervisor, I'm still too weak to stress going out there at 5 in the morning to clean car, shovel driveway and drive on bad roads so I can be miserable at work...nope not happening, she says she had a feeling I wasn't going to make it anyway,  :iminnocent:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 16, 2018, 10:20:23 PM
No more complaining about the cold for me...Just saw this in my Yahell Mail:

Even thermometers can't keep up with the plunging temperatures in Russia's remote Yakutia region, which hit minus 67 degrees Celsius (minus 88.6 degrees Fahrenheit) in some areas Tuesday.

In Yakutia — a region of 1 million people about 3,300 miles (5,300 kilometers) east of Moscow — students routinely go to school even in minus 40 degrees. But school was canceled Tuesday throughout the region and police ordered parents to keep their children inside
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 16, 2018, 10:26:50 PM
Now THAT is COLD!   :sno2:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 12:19:19 AM
Now that I have my Computer room back I can do the Newsletter/Sales Bulletin without having to jump hoops...


Have a great night Ray.....It's been a fun day.   

Now I have to get ready to pick Lorna up and decide what WE want to eat tonight.   Yes....I wait till she's off before I fix anything to eat.  Might as well keep it fresh and it matters not to me what time I eat LOL


Yeah for having your Computer room back from the Christmas fairies!!

Yup. Eating cold food late at night bites - not in a good way. Lol. Enjoy your dinner guys!!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 12:22:13 AM
No more complaining about the cold for me...Just saw this in my Yahell Mail:

Even thermometers can't keep up with the plunging temperatures in Russia's remote Yakutia region, which hit minus 67 degrees Celsius (minus 88.6 degrees Fahrenheit) in some areas Tuesday.

In Yakutia — a region of 1 million people about 3,300 miles (5,300 kilometers) east of Moscow — students routinely go to school even in minus 40 degrees. But school was canceled Tuesday throughout the region and police ordered parents to keep their children inside


Holy cow! THAT is severely cold! The breeze, he freezes your face.  :sno2: 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 12:26:31 AM
Hey McG, sorry no pictures, too cold out there. it stopped snowing earlier in the day and it started again....
@Ray, yeap, bad(in a good way) influence and I just finished calling out for work  :sno: :sno7: :yippee: . Told my supervisor, I'm still too weak to stress going out there at 5 in the morning to clean car, shovel driveway and drive on bad roads so I can be miserable at work...nope not happening, she says she had a feeling I wasn't going to make it anyway,  :iminnocent:

Yes, indeed. You can stay off one more day or four more days - one more if you stay inside and rest like a sane person - :tearlaugh: The great thing is it's no lie!  :yes:

Hope it warms up for you guys the next few days to give you all a break!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Chiron on January 17, 2018, 01:47:43 AM
Who needs science when you have a pound of hamburger, cheese, buns, bacon, ketchup, relish, and lettuce?
I do. To buy hamburger, cheese, buns, bacon, ketchup, relish, and lettuce... :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 17, 2018, 03:57:32 AM
Okay :) We'll call it an abuse of poetic license. Hahahahaha. What kind of bread did you make, J?

This one

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/herbed-peasant-bread
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Jherrith on January 17, 2018, 04:02:07 AM
:alice2: Well, the way you get un-lost is to figure out where you are!
Or as the Doctor once said; The easiest way to find out where you are, is to find out where you are going and work your way backwards.

Where are you going?

Don't know

Or something like that :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 04:43:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJCZbXqbkBc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJCZbXqbkBc)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 05:01:16 AM
Woke up (doing that a lot lately), read rrkinght3's post.  It was a blank space.  Nothing in it at all.  So I replied with "Riiiiiiiiiiiight!"  like the infamous Bill Cosby used to signifying disbelief.   Then I saw the post again, and FF had filled in the blank with a YT vid.  doh.

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 05:03:52 AM
Hey McG, sorry no pictures, too cold out there. it stopped snowing earlier in the day and it started again....


Ok I get THAT!   (sitting here in the house shivering)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 07:25:58 AM
Good MORNING folks!  And it is a fine, brisk 11F morning here.  I went to kitchen to fix my coffee and noticed the beautiful frost on the front windows.  The porch light refracting off it gave the ice an interesting "galvanizing" crazed appearance.  Very cool.   Then I realized that I should be looking at a reflection of the kitchen on that glass, and there wasn't any.  The ice is on the inside of the glass. 
Wow!   :shock: :explode: :yippee: :crazysmile: :smile: :yippee: :shock:

But it's OK, really.   The electronic thermometer reports 41.6F, 6' from the gas heater.  I did as Ray does, layered up.   I got a hoodie jacket that is GOOD insulation, flannel plus tshirt and denims.  Only  my fingers are cold.   :smile:

So exciting eh!   Yeah, boring as paint drying.  BUT better than a blank page of no posts I figure. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 07:42:32 AM
I see all this stuff about SNOW, and I keep hoping we will get a surprise Blue Snow.  Y'all know the one that has the bluish light from a "blue moon" making the whole snow covered landscape look blue?  That one.  With HUGE slow moving flakes drifting all around, settling gently wherever they will.  Sounds lovely huh?   I have seen this, in all its serene, gentle and COLD beauty once. 
It was up in Northern Arkansas, on the North bank of the Buffalo River right on Hwy 65, in St. Joe.   Ferguson's Old Time Country Store and Workshop.  Home of the Buffalo River collection of solid oak furniture.  It really was finely crafted and they did not skimp on the Oak.  When you give your tables 20 year warranty against cracking, you have to get it right.  They did.   
It was a good experience working there.   The boss and two others saw a blue snow happening one evening (night shift), waited till everything was blanketed in thick white fall and the breeze stopped.  The boss called me over to the side door of the shop, and said with a crooked smile "Open it,  Mike."  I did, and my eyes popped wide open, my jaw slowly swung down.  It was a Christmas Card Snow, but it was in real life.   Yeah they set that up for best effect on me.  Wow.  I don't care, that was one of the most beautiful moments of my life.  Seeing, first hand, the Blue Snow.   
I might have even cried a little.   :OMFG:

So, Jeff, Ben and Denny, THANK YOU so much for that experience!

It sure wasn't much fun driving home in it though.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 07:44:34 AM
I do. To buy hamburger, cheese, buns, bacon, ketchup, relish, and lettuce... :tearlaugh:


You would, wouldn't you?  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 17, 2018, 07:45:31 AM
Morning, tried posting a video but said file was not supported so here is a picture...
Don't know why it loaded side ways....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 07:49:51 AM
Woke up (doing that a lot lately), read rrkinght3's post.  It was a blank space.  Nothing in it at all.  So I replied with "Riiiiiiiiiiiight!"  like the infamous Bill Cosby used to signifying disbelief.   Then I saw the post again, and FF had filled in the blank with a YT vid.  doh.

You have to realize that anything Buckaroo Bonzai has to travel across the 8th Dimension to get here.  :tearlaugh:

I do remember that line from that movie now that you posted it, Sir Knight :smile: Weller pulled that off so sweetly making something profoundly simple and kind of ridiculous sound absolutely profound. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 07:51:33 AM
Morning, tried posting a video but said file was not supported so here is a picture...
Don't know why it loaded side ways....

Yup, you've got snow Sandra! That's a nice pine tree you've got out there :smile:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 17, 2018, 07:55:53 AM
Yup, you've got snow Sandra! That's a nice pine tree you've got out there :smile:
Thanks, our backyard is small. Looks big cause of the snow but it's a good size. And it hasn't stop snowing....I'll be back later
 :sno7:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 17, 2018, 08:01:23 AM
Ok let me know if you guys can see the video now. First time I’m doing this. Link only works for here, I marked it as link share only
https://youtu.be/wOgeuBt487Q (https://youtu.be/wOgeuBt487Q)


that's from our bathroom deck. The loud noise is the snow plow coming to clean
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 08:04:15 AM
Morning, tried posting a video but said file was not supported so here is a picture...
Don't know why it loaded side ways....

OH!  TI!  Christmas Card Artworthy photo!  It's beautiful.   And it looks cold too.   Thanks for the pic, it's a wonderful one!

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 17, 2018, 08:04:22 AM
Ray, that makes me hungry just to hear the description.

Aelin, perhaps you need an anchor!
I wondered indeed  :tearlaugh: This night I felt the building shaking :panic: But I guess the issue comes to the roof. When they did renovations, it seems they haven't choosen the best materials for the new roof. That, or owner took the bad company to work on the project :panic:
Well, at least we are always there, it's already that.

If another time I pass by your roof Ray, I leave you your burger indeed!  :tearlaugh:

Good morning guys! It was a big talk here! :OMG:

You know, just when one thinks that things like this are apocryphal, along comes:

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/j-ai-vu-une-tete-de-serpent-sortir-de-mes-wc-15-01-2018-7502895.php (http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/j-ai-vu-une-tete-de-serpent-sortir-de-mes-wc-15-01-2018-7502895.php)

A Google translate (very) partial quote:

"And I could very well have been bitten to a sensitive place, if you know what I mean.  "
:tearlaugh: I think it's in Thailand than a guy was attacked by a snake in WC. He was bitten in a strategic part of his anatomy.
But the end of the story is sad for the python to Grenobles.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 08:05:30 AM
Good MORNING folks!  And it is a fine, brisk 11F morning here.  I went to kitchen to fix my coffee and noticed the beautiful frost on the front windows.  The porch light refracting off it gave the ice an interesting "galvanizing" crazed appearance.  Very cool.   Then I realized that I should be looking at a reflection of the kitchen on that glass, and there wasn't any.  The ice is on the inside of the glass. 
Wow!   :shock: :explode: :yippee: :crazysmile: :smile: :yippee: :shock:

But it's OK, really.   The electronic thermometer reports 41.6F, 6' from the gas heater.  I did as Ray does, layered up.   I got a hoodie jacket that is GOOD insulation, flannel plus tshirt and denims.  Only  my fingers are cold.   :smile:

So exciting eh!   Yeah, boring as paint drying.  BUT better than a blank page of no posts I figure.


I get those cheap ($2.00) stretchy gloves they have at WalMart and cut the fingertips off of them. Just the tips. Surprisingly, they don't unravel much if at all. I don't know if they'd fit on your hands but find some and try them on. You'd be amazed at how warm they keep your hands and fingers - so you can type and pick up things.

Your Blue Snow experience sounds lovely - a moment like no other. The Blue Moon isn't until the 31st. I remember walking home one night from my job and it started snowing. It was the sparkliest, most pristine fluffy snow I ever saw. Beautiful. It covered everything. That was my moment with snow.

Had one with a thunderstorm and a horizontal rainbow once too. Ever seen a horizontal rainbow? Crazy stuff. Another time when I was a kid, my Dad called me and Mom to come to the front door. We were apparently in the red/pink part of a rainbow's end. Everything around us was totally, seriously pink - the sky, the clouds, the houses, the concrete. Just bathed in pink light.   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 08:07:04 AM
YES Gothic Queen I see the video!   At least I don't have to deal with the snow itself to see some of its beauty now!   Thank you!
 :yippee: :feelgood: :smile: :c-cat:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 08:11:06 AM
Ok let me know if you guys can see the video now. First time I’m doing this. Link only works for here, I marked it as link share only

that's from our bathroom deck. The loud noise is the snow plow coming to clean

Nice! You got it to work :smile:

It is coming down pretty good there - steadily it looks like. Aren't you glad you stayed home? :thumb_up:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 08:13:34 AM
No Ray, never saw a horizontal one.   Lots and lots of bows and arcs of a bow, but not anything resembling a line.   ever see a 'dirty bow'?  Or might call it a smoke-bow too.  There is a rainbow sort of, but its from the very visible haze of dust or smoke in the air.   in Houston one time we had a severe wind storm, worst on record they said.   And we had a dirty rainbow.  It was on the TV news too.  I had a pre-SLR digital camera back then, so had to take its pic in sections.  No  zoom in or out.  I might still have that on disk here somewhere.  It's interesting.  But nothing like a horizontal rainbow.  That ain't normal, but it sounds cool!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 17, 2018, 08:15:55 AM
Wooo that does  :sno3: suddenly. I'm happy to have the sun to look your video  and photo.
I don't say how I was when I read for -67°  :sno2:     :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 08:22:38 AM

I get those cheap ($2.00) stretchy gloves they have at WalMart and cut the fingertips off of them. Just the tips. Surprisingly, they don't unravel much if at all. I don't know if they'd fit on your hands but find some and try them on. You'd be amazed at how warm they keep your hands and fingers - so you can type and pick up things.

Your Blue Snow experience sounds lovely - a moment like no other. The Blue Moon isn't until the 31st. I remember walking home one night from my job and it started snowing. It was the sparkliest, most pristine fluffy snow I ever saw. Beautiful. It covered everything. That was my moment with snow.

Had one with a thunderstorm and a horizontal rainbow once too. Ever seen a horizontal rainbow? Crazy stuff. Another time when I was a kid, my Dad called me and Mom to come to the front door. We were apparently in the red/pink part of a rainbow's end. Everything around us was totally, seriously pink - the sky, the clouds, the houses, the concrete. Just bathed in pink light.

Yeah you got it, that was one Unforgettable Moment in my life.   Almost as great a moment as the birth and my naming of all four of my children.  But not quite that great!   Nothing beats holding them the moment they are born, and their looking all around for your voice cause they recognize it.  And that very first toothless smile!  Nope, blue snow takes second to that.  But then everything else does too!  LOL!
And there is nothing like that first astonishing blue snow.   Seen them since, but they never hit you like that first one!   Your Moment with the Snow sounds pretty awesome too.   I feel a snowy render coming on....

(inspiration over pain/discomfort, sure takes a LOT of serious Inspiration to do that these days.  sigh)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 08:26:52 AM

I get those cheap ($2.00) stretchy gloves they have at WalMart and cut the fingertips off of them. Just the tips. Surprisingly, they don't unravel much if at all. I don't know if they'd fit on your hands but find some and try them on. You'd be amazed at how warm they keep your hands and fingers - so you can type and pick up things.

Your Blue Snow experience sounds lovely - a moment like no other. The Blue Moon isn't until the 31st. I remember walking home one night from my job and it started snowing. It was the sparkliest, most pristine fluffy snow I ever saw. Beautiful. It covered everything. That was my moment with snow.

Had one with a thunderstorm and a horizontal rainbow once too. Ever seen a horizontal rainbow? Crazy stuff. Another time when I was a kid, my Dad called me and Mom to come to the front door. We were apparently in the red/pink part of a rainbow's end. Everything around us was totally, seriously pink - the sky, the clouds, the houses, the concrete. Just bathed in pink light.

RIGHT!  Yeah those cotton jersey gloves.  I wear them for comfort liners inside my leather ones.  MUCH nicer that way.  Got several pairs of those around here, will try that later today.  I should have thought of that. 
It's warmed up in here now, that or I am warmed up now!  LOL!   :tearlaugh: :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 08:28:12 AM
No Ray, never saw a horizontal one.   Lots and lots of bows and arcs of a bow, but not anything resembling a line.   ever see a 'dirty bow'?  Or might call it a smoke-bow too.  There is a rainbow sort of, but its from the very visible haze of dust or smoke in the air.   in Houston one time we had a severe wind storm, worst on record they said.   And we had a dirty rainbow.  It was on the TV news too.  I had a pre-SLR digital camera back then, so had to take its pic in sections.  No  zoom in or out.  I might still have that on disk here somewhere.  It's interesting.  But nothing like a horizontal rainbow.  That ain't normal, but it sounds cool!

I have when we've had some fires here. They're rather grimy looking, aren't they?

There was a long flat cloud bank off over the eastern plains that day and the sun was already over the mountains in the west. That big cloud bank went from down south to clear up north and looked to the eye to be about four inches thick. The tops of the clouds were bright white and the underside was black as could be from all the moisture in the clouds. Underneath that was the rainbow and the bands of it were squiggly underneath from the turbulence of the storm. It went almost to the ground. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 08:38:05 AM
Yeah you got it, that was one Unforgettable Moment in my life.   Almost as great a moment as the birth and my naming of all four of my children.  But not quite that great!   Nothing beats holding them the moment they are born, and their looking all around for your voice cause they recognize it.  And that very first toothless smile!  Nope, blue snow takes second to that.  But then everything else does too!  LOL!
And there is nothing like that first astonishing blue snow.   Seen them since, but they never hit you like that first one!   Your Moment with the Snow sounds pretty awesome too.   I feel a snowy render coming on....

(inspiration over pain/discomfort, sure takes a LOT of serious Inspiration to do that these days.  sigh)


Talk about pain and discomfort......... Be glad you weren't the one had to squeeze them out :tearlaugh:

But, you do tend to forget about all of that when you see their little faces and tiny hands and feet.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 17, 2018, 08:41:58 AM
will be back sometime  Friday  going to Tampa for a couple days
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
will be back sometime  Friday  going to Tampa for a couple days

Have fun you guys!! :smiley: Good luck to you!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Fafnir on January 17, 2018, 08:48:26 AM
thanks Dear Rayvn you take care of you
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 08:56:04 AM
T.I., I can also see the video.  Thanks for sharing.  It is beautiful.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 09:03:28 AM

Talk about pain and discomfort......... Be glad you weren't the one had to squeeze them out :tearlaugh:

But, you do tend to forget about all of that when you see their little faces and tiny hands and feet.

You sure got that right.   The first two came, and the ex demanded to be knocked out for the delivery.   OK meant I wasn't in there or even allowed to see.  Rats. Second two.  Well second wifey wanted as natural a birth as she could bear.  She got an epidural the first, didn't even have time for that with her second!  So, I get the call at work and took off went straight to the hospital, the nurses took all the clothing they could off and put the paper stuff on all around.  Kewl!  Even the feet had paper slip n sliders!  So they usher me into the delivery room, and there Mama is about to give that last push.  About to.  FLOP!  THERE SHE IS!  At 5 pounds 5 ounces on Feb 5 95 my youngest was um, caught.  I mean she fairly shot out!  The wife goes "Oooof" one time and big breaths come, and the placenta a little later.  Perfect delivery if there ever was one.  Laura was 5 pounds and 5 ounces, 22" long and no fat on her.  She made up for that later I assure you!   She was my smallest baby, and to this day is my biggest kid.  She is like 6'1" and my son is too.  When he tip-toes.  He hates standing next to Laura, who actually is taller than he is.  Laura thinks its hilarious!  I think its funny but never show it.  He gets so embarrassed over it.
Rachel, my 2nd's 1st, my third, was almost 7 pounds, a little fat, 24" long, and the sweetest biggest smile a newborn ever gave to elated parents.   The baby is 31 in February, the eldest is 40 in April. 
Yeah, those little faces, they make everything so worth it.   I didn't have that pain of carrying and birthing.  Guess its natural for a Dad to work all the harder to  provide for them huh.  We each have a part to play!   And I AM glad I am not the one squeezing them out.   I admire women for so many things Ray.  Bearing our species is just one of those many things!
 :Hi5: :feelgood: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :smile:
 :havesum:
 :peek: :ty02: :ty2:

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
will be back sometime  Friday  going to Tampa for a couple days

Safe travels, Fafnir! 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 09:06:02 AM
will be back sometime  Friday  going to Tampa for a couple days

Hey y'all have a good time, ENJOY yourselves!   
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 09:07:37 AM
Hey guys!  First time in days I get on at DAZ and look what I see:

https://www.daz3d.com/poser-mega-sale-items

A POSER items sale!   LOL!

 :grenade: :sidetoside: :dancingknight: :Hi5: :feelgood:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Agent0013 on January 17, 2018, 09:11:39 AM
Did not see any indication that we would get snow overnight, but here we have at least 2 inches on the ground. Would that had happened Christmas Eve! But alas, here it is the middle of January before we get that much snow. It is the second snow of the season but the first one did not accumulate much except in shaded areas, and only a light dusting at that.


BTW, we won't be above freezing here today.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 17, 2018, 09:30:14 AM
Have a good trip Fafnir!

Thanks McG for the link. Alas for the moment I see nothing which can insterest me  :shrug: Maybe another time.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 17, 2018, 09:45:55 AM

Woke up (doing that a lot lately)


well thank god you do wake up  :tearlaugh: the alternative aint a lot of fun  :sad:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 17, 2018, 09:52:26 AM

not quite as cold as you but had a night of snow melted quick then froze to sheets of ice


walking on ice with a 20 mph wind is a tricky way to book me a week in hossie with a broken hip  :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 10:24:14 AM
thanks Dear Rayvn you take care of you

Tryin' :smiley:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 10:25:22 AM
not quite as cold as you but had a night of snow melted quick then froze to sheets of ice


walking on ice with a 20 mph wind is a tricky way to book me a week in hossie with a broken hip  :tearlaugh:


You're not or you are in the hospital HH?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 10:32:13 AM
Yeah, those little faces, they make everything so worth it.   I didn't have that pain of carrying and birthing.  Guess its natural for a Dad to work all the harder to  provide for them huh.  We each have a part to play!   And I AM glad I am not the one squeezing them out.   I admire women for so many things Ray.  Bearing our species is just one of those many things!
 :Hi5: :feelgood: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :smile:
 :havesum:
 :peek: :ty02: :ty2:


Presumably, it's natural for a dad but sadly it's not.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Twisted.Illusions on January 17, 2018, 10:40:06 AM
Awesome! glad you guys were able to see the video. Safe travels Fafnir!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 17, 2018, 10:49:58 AM

hips ok but will have a bruise tomorrow  :tearlaugh:


ya'know we have all these "car crash " proggys on TV nowadays when lots have cams running all day long


I'd guess in another yr or two , falling on yer arse will be on utube before you can get home an change your pants
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: heddheld on January 17, 2018, 10:58:12 AM
Mac G  :hug2: seeing your babies born is one of the most awesome things  :odd: :fainting: :cry2:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 12:01:31 PM
hips ok but will have a bruise tomorrow  :tearlaugh:


ya'know we have all these "car crash " proggys on TV nowadays when lots have cams running all day long


I'd guess in another yr or two , falling on yer arse will be on utube before you can get home an change your pants

Glad to hear your hip is okay. A bruise is better than a break, I always say :smiley:

Really 'car crash' programs? Watching stupid people do stupid stuff for the entertainment of it? :thud: Don't we get enough of that in the news?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 12:46:04 PM
Good Grief, it's climbing to the mid 40's here!  Was 10F at 7am, 12:30 and its 42F.  A body'd get sick in that stuff!  (JK, its what was said way back when is all!)

 :smile: :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: M-Callahan on January 17, 2018, 01:58:22 PM
I am starting to look forward to spring and summer until it is here, until then a little music to get you looking forward to the change in weather.


https://youtu.be/e3_xiUYMnXA
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 04:34:35 PM
Yeah for having your Computer room back from the Christmas fairies!!

Yup. Eating cold food late at night bites - not in a good way. Lol. Enjoy your dinner guys!!

LOL....a lot of good it did getting my computer room back.   Spent most of the day updating the darn thing.  I should have gone in and turned it on a couple of times just to keep it up to date.....but haven't touched it since before Christmas.  But all is good now.   As I was doing the updates I noticed that there was a lot of dust gathered on the Air vents so after a bit I'm going to strip it down and clean it up. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 04:39:26 PM
Uhhhh  -  HUH!   Thought so!    :tearlaugh: :shrug:

 :ny-fathertime:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 04:39:51 PM
The boss called me over to the side door of the shop, and said with a crooked smile "Open it,  Mike."  I did, and my eyes popped wide open, my jaw slowly swung down.  It was a Christmas Card Snow, but it was in real life.   Yeah they set that up for best effect on me.  Wow.  I don't care, that was one of the most beautiful moments of my life.  Seeing, first hand, the Blue Snow.   
I might have even cried a little.   :OMFG:

So, Jeff, Ben and Denny, THANK YOU so much for that experience!

It sure wasn't much fun driving home in it though.

Always nice to read a happy ending after a personal story.  Very cool Mc-G...... 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 04:45:28 PM
Awesome! glad you guys were able to see the video. Safe travels Fafnir!
Ok let me know if you guys can see the video now. First time I’m doing this. Link only works for here, I marked it as link share only
https://youtu.be/wOgeuBt487Q (https://youtu.be/wOgeuBt487Q)


that's from our bathroom deck. The loud noise is the snow plow coming to clean

A very neat vid Sandra....Thanks for sharing.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
I wondered indeed  :tearlaugh: This night I felt the building shaking :panic: But I guess the issue comes to the roof. When they did renovations, it seems they haven't choosen the best materials for the new roof. That, or owner took the bad company to work on the project :panic:
Well, at least we are always there, it's already that.

If another time I pass by your roof Ray, I leave you your burger indeed!  :tearlaugh:

YIKES......When one can hear strange noises on the roof caused by winds.....I'm thinking OZ is not to far away....  Oh wait.....Never mind.....  He's sleeping on the foot stool under my desk LOLOL

Glad to see you made it safely through the night my friend.....Good Afternoon...
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 04:53:36 PM
will be back sometime  Friday  going to Tampa for a couple days

Have a fun time you two.....  Stay Safe.....and no Gambling LOLOLOL   (Not even sure if you can Gamble in Florida)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
Did not see any indication that we would get snow overnight, but here we have at least 2 inches on the ground. Would that had happened Christmas Eve! But alas, here it is the middle of January before we get that much snow. It is the second snow of the season but the first one did not accumulate much except in shaded areas, and only a light dusting at that.


BTW, we won't be above freezing here today.

Now is nice every now and then....I just don't like it when it becomes a habit :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 05:02:19 PM
hips ok but will have a bruise tomorrow  :tearlaugh:


ya'know we have all these "car crash " proggys on TV nowadays when lots have cams running all day long


I'd guess in another yr or two , falling on yer arse will be on utube before you can get home an change your pants

Glad you're OK HH......Any kind of a fall is a bad thing.  As for the Web Cams.  They already have a personal cam called "Go Cam" that you can wear on your body and it can capture all the dumb things people do at times.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 05:06:29 PM
I work with a fellow who wore a body cam all of the time, transmitting it to a retransmitter that had it one a web page.  I must admit that I never looked at the web page, but that was what he asserted.  How does one sleep wearing a camera?
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: Aelin on January 17, 2018, 05:17:40 PM
YIKES......When one can hear strange noises on the roof caused by winds.....I'm thinking OZ is not to far away....  Oh wait.....Never mind.....  He's sleeping on the foot stool under my desk LOLOL

Glad to see you made it safely through the night my friend.....Good Afternoon...

Main of time, cats are afraid by wind here. But if they are far far away in their dreams? No matter the noise, they don't move  :tearlaugh: But whn strong wings come for the night, they are assured they can sleep in the bedroom.

I work with a fellow who wore a body cam all of the time, transmitting it to a retransmitter that had it one a web page.  I must admit that I never looked at the web page, but that was what he asserted.  How does one sleep wearing a camera?
Concerning camera. Everywhere with him? Even for the little and big things in bathroom? Even for...? :OMG: Kind of person I prefer to avoid  :tearlaugh:

Excellent end of day guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 05:22:20 PM
There are some seriously weird watches in the world:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1348/3759/products/Last-Laugh-menu_grande.jpg?v=1503654136)

In case you have $261 that you need to discard,

https://mrjoneswatches.com/collections/all-watches/products/the-last-laugh (https://mrjoneswatches.com/collections/all-watches/products/the-last-laugh)
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 05:30:38 PM

Concerning camera. Everywhere with him? Even for the little and big things in bathroom? Even for...? :OMG: Kind of person I prefer to avoid  :tearlaugh:

Excellent end of day guys!

I never asked that question because I didn't want to know the answer.   :winks:   Brilliant guy, but definitely eccentric .

Have a good evening, Aelin.  I hope the winds let you and the cats sleep.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 05:32:25 PM
Psst!   Code puzzler of the week!

Voynich Manuscript
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 05:36:00 PM
Main of time, cats are afraid by wind here. But if they are far far away in their dreams? No matter the noise, they don't move  :tearlaugh: But whn strong wings come for the night, they are assured they can sleep in the bedroom.
Concerning camera. Everywhere with him? Even for the little and big things in bathroom? Even for...? :OMG: Kind of person I prefer to avoid  :tearlaugh:

Excellent end of day guys!

I believe todays Go Cams can be controlled when to turn on and off via voice commands to Bixby, Alexa, Hey Google, or Cortena.....  But yes Aelin and Sir Knight.....I'm thinking that it's not a great idea to keep one on
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 05:36:42 PM
Always nice to read a happy ending after a personal story.  Very cool Mc-G...... 

(snif!)  Thanks TL!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 05:37:40 PM

well thank god you do wake up  :tearlaugh: the alternative aint a lot of fun  :sad:

Don't seem to be.   No heater!

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 05:39:30 PM
There are some seriously weird watches in the world:

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1348/3759/products/Last-Laugh-menu_grande.jpg?v=1503654136)

In case you have $261 that you need to discard,

https://mrjoneswatches.com/collections/all-watches/products/the-last-laugh (https://mrjoneswatches.com/collections/all-watches/products/the-last-laugh)

Now that IS wierd....even for me LOLOL.   I'm a Pocket Watch person.  Love them....  Don't carry them on me often.  But have some treasured ones....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: McGrandpa on January 17, 2018, 05:40:14 PM
Mac G  :hug2: seeing your babies born is one of the most awesome things  :odd: :fainting: :cry2:

It absolutely is HH!    I didn't wanna hand em to Mama!   She's laying there "Gimme gimme gimme!" with a huge smile too!

We might be divorced, but those things we share always. 
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 05:50:43 PM
Psst!   Code puzzler of the week!

Voynich Manuscript

I saw a couple of different videos that say it's written in a Romany text that comes from India and it has been decoded. I don't know if they're full of beans but I can see where that might be the case.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 05:57:21 PM
Psst!   Code puzzler of the week!

Voynich Manuscript

Oh, I think it's been a little longer than a week.  I see that there is now a facsimile edition.  I'm going to have save my pennies.   Looks like it's going to take several 10's of thousands of them.  Might have to forgo that Memento Mori watch for a bit.   :tearlaugh:

There's still not been any real advance on what it might contain.  Pretty cool!  Thanks for the reminder, McG!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: rrkknight3 on January 17, 2018, 06:06:24 PM
I saw a couple of different videos that say it's written in a Romany text that comes from India and it has been decoded. I don't know if they're full of beans but I can see where that might be the case.

The Wikipedia article on it is pretty good and more or less matches up with what I learned back when I tried to study it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript)

Quite a bit more continues to be done, trying to figure it out.
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 06:31:26 PM
You're quicker then I am Sir Knight.   I was just about to put the Wiki link up but POOOF....it appears  LOLOL


Anyway.....this is one of my favorite pocket watches.....Steampunk by Majesti

Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 06:37:00 PM
That's very pretty, TL!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 06:37:10 PM
Oh Yes.  My Assistant was watching me take the pictures.....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 06:39:00 PM
LOL... And a very astute assistant you have there!
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 06:39:44 PM
That's very pretty, TL!

Thanks Ray......  I've had it for years.  And it still keeps great time....and yes...it's WINDUP...no battery....
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: thelufias on January 17, 2018, 06:49:15 PM
LOL... And a very astute assistant you have there!

He misses NOTHING  :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Coffee Shop and Gardens
Post by: sidherose on January 17, 2018, 07:39:03 PM
Thanks Ray......  I've had it for years.  And it still keeps great time....and yes...it's WINDUP...no battery....

The best kind!! Works of the watchmaker's art.

Heh...right there in that picture, Oz looks like he should be called Watson. "Elementary, my dear Watson!"