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Offline RainbowGypsy

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More of a question rather than a review
« on: July 10, 2015, 07:11:02 PM »
Sorry for posting this here but I didn't really see a thread that was for asking all of our amazing artists and vendors a question.  So I have not been able to keep up with all of the character updates that come out of DAZ and RNA etc. and frankly for the most part I'm thrilled with V4 and M4, plus there is the small issue of just how little money I have to start building a new character collection for clothes and morphs and the list goes on.

Having said that it seems that everything you see these days says the figure it is compatible with is Genesis. Ok, so I'm going to admit I have no idea what or who Genesis is? I use Poser and I'm wondering if Genesis is for Poser and if so who sells the base character and would this mean that I would be starting all over just like I did when I switched so many years ago from V3 to V4.

Also for those of you who use the Genesis characters are they better than V4 and M4 and why? I've been meaning to ask and just decided to admit I'm totally in the dark and hope someone would help me figure this all out.



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Re: More of a question rather than a review
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2015, 08:27:12 PM »
Genesis is for DAZ and unless you use another abomination of a program to convert it to be able to use it in Poser it is in my mind a waste of time.

Sorry about that .... damn soap box just got in my way

I have seen several people get good results with Genesis figures but if I need to use another piece of software to do what used to be done with just one then I have serious misgivings about the reasons as to why I need to do so now.

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Re: More of a question rather than a review
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2015, 11:04:46 PM »
All the Genesis figures were specifically made to work in DS only.  Even Genesis1.

When DAZ released DS4 and Genesis (together) they basically told Poser users to use DS or forget it.

Poser users basically said, "see ya later" so DAZ created the DSON importer for Poser that forces Genesis into Poser with lots of kludges and serious slow down.  Genesis1 and Genesis2 could only be used in Poser with DSON.

Genesis3, on the other hand, is not Poser compatible and it doesn't appear will ever be so.

It appears, with Genesis3, that the complete split between DS and Poser is permanent.

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Re: More of a question rather than a review
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2015, 11:22:47 AM »
Thanks so much.  I guess I understand why Daz would do that however, it really does create an ultimatum for users of their products. Kinda makes me sad though. My initial response if someone tries to force me to use their product is to say no way. Even though I've thought about trying DS for some time now. At least now I also understand what the heck DSON is as well.

RawArt has a sale on at Daz and so many of the characters are amazing however the ones I was really looking at are Genesis morphs. Which means I guess that if you only use Poser then you can't use them :(

Thanks for responding I really appreciate it  :ty_luv:   

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Re: More of a question rather than a review
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2016, 07:30:32 PM »

I know this is a bit late but hopefully it will shed some light.

Genesis is created by Daz3D, who were originally Zygote.

Zygote were the content creators for Metacreations Poser progam.

Metacreations abandoned Poser to follow and develop video streaming.

A few company's along the way took ownership of Poser and developed it further.

Daz3D started an off shoot of their poser content to suit their new program ... Daz studio.

Pretty much the rest is history.  Genesis was born and evolved.

As a content (hobbyist) creator I persevered with V4, until I discovered it was a lot easier adapting different morphs for G3 Female.

I started rendering with the latest  version of Daz Studio (Iray) and I was impressed with the result.

Secretly, I wish for Daz and Poser to come to an accord, build their bridges and get over whatever the issue is, and the community would be a lot better off.
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Re: More of a question rather than a review
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2016, 10:32:12 AM »
I'm thinking that will not come any to soon....but would love for that to come about.  It sure would make life easier for creators....maybe LOL
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Re: More of a question rather than a review
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2016, 10:35:10 AM »
:yes: this will be a real good step. I really love idea to work with Pauline and G2M together for example.
Because before to start a scene now, you need to ask to yourself what character use into, and consequently what program will be used.


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