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Re: And Now! Let Us Suggest Names for rrkknight3!
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2016, 10:56:59 PM »
From Memory the Black was Pine sap turned into Lampblack and applied to protect the poor quality Iron armor.

That's entirely possible as well, Radkres. I just know it's something they mix up with naturally occurring ingredients. I know early on they used charcoal powder for black but by the time of knights it could have been 'more sophisticated' than that.

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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2016, 11:00:12 PM »
Giggles..."the Knights Who Say Ni". 

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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2016, 11:15:17 PM »
The black knight is now a legendary character who can be a heroe or a villain. As always with legends, there's obviously something real at the beginning.
As character inspired by black knights, I think we can add Zorro too.

Yes, I'd add Zorro into that group too. Black Knights are usually Anti-heroes because there's always a story behind *why?* they are a Black Knight...even with Batman and Zorro. They recognize there is a problem that's not being addressed by the Powers That Be and take matters into their own hands...which is 'illegal' to do. That makes them a bad guy. But all too often they are the only ones capable of bringing that 'worse evil' down.

Perhaps he was  a very noble knight once but his king whom he served was slain in bad form by an enemy. So if the knight lives through that battle but manages to get away.... He may stalk the enemy until he brings him down, but he wants nothing for himself there. Just revenge for his king. This was a typical warrior mindset. And if they wanted to remain anonymous - which often Black Knights were - there was no better way to hide but behind the 'legend' of themselves.

Kind of like gunslingers in the Old West. You're always a target, so you minimize your fame and presence to do the work. Not all did but they often soon died. They were 'show-boaters' who had to proclaim their presence and make themselves known. Meanwhile Clint Eastwood is sitting quietly in the corner smirking at them and then bang-bang.

 

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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2016, 12:37:41 AM »
It's hard to tell what's what there because 'Black Knights' are still very much a part of our 'collective consciousness' in the more modern sense - as with Batman for example. And they're immensely popular in gaming. So, finding any real honest to goodness info on it is kind of a lost cause.

It did make sense to me though. The suet or whatever grease they used would have waterproofed the metal for a time and the ashes are a form of carbon. Carbon is often used to harden some metals. Steel in particular. I think it's used in iron smithing as well, but not for sure.

It's basically the same stuff they'd use to smear on their faces and bodies in hunting days as camouflage and to keep warm. Ashes and grease for the black most times.
You should see if you can find something about the way Samurai Swords are forged. Without a doubt those are the best swords ever made. There is an edge hardening technique they use in which they smear a substance on the edge that has carbon of some type in it, and when it is fired and quenched, if done right it creates that characteristic curve to the blade.


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Re: And Now! Let Us Suggest Names for rrkknight3!
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2016, 12:45:05 AM »
Even if they act for a right cause, the black knights are considered as outlaws by the official power and then, they're constantly tracked, which doesn't help to have a long life.
Most of time, they're stuck in a dilemma. On one hand, they need to claim why they act as they do to be understood and on the other hand, they need to hide to avoid to get caught.


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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2016, 12:59:22 AM »
The first Black Knight I heard of was supposed to have been a Knight of the Round Table who wanted the throne of Arthur for himself. He was found out though by other members of that group who told Arthur of his duplicity. Arthur banished him and so he donned the armor that he had blackened, and began a campaign of raids against the people of Arthur's realm. Of course all of this is legend, and there is just not enough written history to say whether there is much truth to it or not.


According to a documentary I watched on the History channel, the Legend of Arthur may have been based on a Briton who fought for a time for Rome, and was given the name Arturo or some such by the Romans. He was betrayed by the Romans who always had a bad habit of not living up to their part of any bargain, and that was why he turned against them.


In one incident he supposedly lured the Romans onto a frozen river and he had someone use a battle Hammer to crack the ice and cause the Romans to fall through. A bit fitting for the cold way they treated their allies. Of course this too might just be legend.
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Re: And Now! Let Us Suggest Names for rrkknight3!
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2016, 09:11:18 AM »
I've called you this from day one......

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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2016, 11:22:13 AM »
Even if they act for a right cause, the black knights are considered as outlaws by the official power and then, they're constantly tracked, which doesn't help to have a long life.
Most of time, they're stuck in a dilemma. On one hand, they need to claim why they act as they do to be understood and on the other hand, they need to hide to avoid to get caught.

Yes, pretty much.

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« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2016, 11:25:04 AM »
You should see if you can find something about the way Samurai Swords are forged. Without a doubt those are the best swords ever made. There is an edge hardening technique they use in which they smear a substance on the edge that has carbon of some type in it, and when it is fired and quenched, if done right it creates that characteristic curve to the blade.


Got a suggestion for a name now that I think might be a good one:
Samurai Knight

I own a book about how Samurai swords are forged. The 'substance' is a type of pure clay that is mixed with ashes.

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« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2016, 11:47:31 AM »
I own a book about how Samurai swords are forged. The 'substance' is a type of pure clay that is mixed with ashes.
Thanks Rayvn. I was not 100% on what the substance was, so I did not want to hazard a guess. :thud:
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