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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2017, 03:44:19 PM »
LOL....I've had McAfee for eons...never a problem....but looking at some others lately.  Not thrilled with their "LIVE" version.....

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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2017, 03:46:57 PM »
...I read on that NATO may be considering an Article 5 response to global cyber terrorist attacks like the one that just occurred.

I see that....we'll see how well all will play together before getting any hopes up....
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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2017, 03:48:44 PM »
Any want to read the article....can read it HERE
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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2017, 03:49:23 PM »

a safe heaven for someone who "don't give a f*** is silly


they DONT CARE
when you can go a year without seeing someone drop litter or knock off a flower head
yes yes not same "class" but still a norty in a good world


some people are just NOT nice ..........there not attacking YOU as a person ( well maybe if its X wifes new b/f lol )
ur just a means to an end
even most phishing attacks don't want YOU or ur bank details {heck if they change the red to black I'll empty account before they can pmsl}
they want ur comp to perform DOS attacks on ......big biz / government maybe banks lol
then thys can crash them ...................then they get a great job with opps I cant say apple or microstuff can I ??
or maybe they do 6 months in jail get a rep then come out "reformed" an start a security company
there first weeks wage makes ur bank account look like petty change 


the points been made that some company's may be late in updates etc
WE shouldn't be !! most of us would lose then nothing but a day or 3 ( not if its ur cash cow lol but us that are doing as a hobby)


I'd bet that's theres not one peep in this forum would meet a cute stranger.........sign up for a squillion squids insurance policy naming THEM THEN GO FOR A NEKID SKYDIVE


YET U DO EVERTIME U AVOID AN IMPORTANT UPDATE
opps cap lock sorry
don't get me wrong at the mo I got 150 squids worth of rats that don't work ...........windoze or gpu drivers I not sure
rolled back gpu drivers but then they updated to windows drivers on next reboot
so I got a 70 squid mouse on floor an a 3 squid one in hand arrrghhhhhhhhhhh
but I do my updates an giggle at the bad speliing in a phishin email

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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2017, 04:09:57 PM »
:tearlaugh:   You do have a way with words....but I agree on all points......

Hummm.....Nekid Skydiving.....Now there's a thought....but I better keep it as a thought....I'd be sued by the wildlife folks for scaring birds to death.   :java:
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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2017, 04:17:26 PM »
..yeah whne I purchased a notebook years ago it came with McAffee.  A got hit by a n annoying redirect virus that piggybacked during an MS auto update which slipped right through. The virus would randomly redirect legit searches I Would make to porn sites (a real embarrassment when at a cafe).  Finally rooted it out with the help of several third party utilities and the replaced McAffee with another much better AV utility that businesses use. I also have the same firewall setup on my workstation which even though it isn't connected to the Net, still receives updates I download to the notebook then transfer to it by secure USB stick.
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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2017, 04:17:30 PM »
:tearlaugh:   You do have a way with words....but I agree on all points......

Hummm.....Nekid Skydiving.....Now there's a thought....but I better keep it as a thought....I'd be sued by the wildlife folks for scaring birds to death.   :java:

That would not be the only thing I'd scare to death! It's really bad when you're scared of your own reflection! LOL
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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2017, 04:19:11 PM »
That would not be the only thing I'd scare to death! It's really bad when you're scared of your own reflection! LOL

That's one of the reason I only have small mirrors at my place...just big enough to shave...that's scary enough :tearlaugh: :tearlaugh:
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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2017, 04:25:55 PM »

heck u lot got a full page from when I started that .............to when it ended 3 phonecalls later
rofl
damn I hate losing the plot
macaffee/ avast /even microstuffs antivirus can miss one [then all the others say LOOK how good I am ...........pay ME ]
if ur on win 10 then its got antivirus .....its got defender and both are updated every bloody tuedays
not saying there great but there as good an free
the first line of defence IS you !!...........anno some of u are old enough to remember them "tricks " have an wrong email at top of ur list .....have throwaway emails for dodgy sites .........if its a good site then change email on it ......no worries


but at the end its down to u ...............u get held up at knife/gun (for the yanks) point then give them ur wallet
but keep ur cash in ur sock  :happy4th1:

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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2017, 04:26:36 PM »
..yeah whne I purchased a notebook years ago it came with McAffee.  A got hit by a n annoying redirect virus that piggybacked during an MS auto update which slipped right through. The virus would randomly redirect legit searches I Would make to porn sites (a real embarrassment when at a cafe).  Finally rooted it out with the help of several third party utilities and the replaced McAffee with another much better AV utility that businesses use. I also have the same firewall setup on my workstation which even though it isn't connected to the Net, still receives updates I download to the notebook then transfer to it by secure USB stick.

When I first started with them I had problems but after working with them and becoming a beta tester I had very few problems.   Use to be a son of a gun getting the updates...but that's fixed now also.  A lot of times folks don't take the time to remove ALL PARTS of the previous Virus program they had on their computer and that causes "Open Doors" even with the best Virus protection.  As I said...Not crazy over their new LIVE....It seemed to work great in Beta Testing but I'm thinking they disregarded some of the suggestions made.  So I'm hunting.

If anyone has suggestions or views on what programs they like best...throw them at me....All will be welcomed.
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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2017, 04:34:39 PM »
It is behooving upon you however; to actually hold those powers that be to the fire and demand they get with the program. If your hospital doesn't work, and you pay for medical; then boycott that hospital in the future and let them know why. If you power grid has shut down don't blame the ransomware. Blame your utility\govt. as the case may be for an inability to secure the grid. Bank machine not working. Transfer your account to another bank and tell your current institution why. You have no faith in their ability to secure their services or your cash\mortgage or whatever services you use.

Everything is connected to everything else. Tech runs at a pace beyond that of most users. No matter what level they operate at. If the basics in our modern society cannot be secured maybe we should be paying more attention to the cause. Not the symptoms.


Nailed it. Very well said, PDG.


Additionally, these sorts of things are why we are also supposed to keep multiple backups of our own data. I know I do. I've had catastrophic HD failures before, only to find out that one of my backup HDs had also bricked itself... to the rescue was my second backup... LOL.


Nothing is backed up unless it's saved in three different places. ;) At least not nowadays anyhow.


As for viruses like this. Meh. Black Hats will do as they will do, White Hats will do as they will do to try and counter it. It's all over my head... I just keep everything as up to date as I can, run my firewalls and antivirus, and back things up in multiple different places and hope for the best, basically. I have my main HD, my internal HD, and then multiple "backup" HD's. All but the one internal are USB externals. I scan them periodically for scumware and viruses as well. I do everything I know to do to be responsible with it.


We can't avoid 100% everything there is, and there is always that slim chance that something will align in the cosmos somewhere and you lose ALL your HD's at the same time of course...


Scream and rant and rave and then either move on or give up at that point I suppose...


But at least if you have the extra backups, you've made a try at being responsible with your data. I won't touch Norton or Macafee if you PAID me to use their crapware... they're just as bad as a virus on their own. I've been with Avast for about 15 years now. Have only ever had one virus sneak through, and that was my own fault. LOL They've had a good track record for me, and the price is right as they say, too. ;)


All we can really do is try to be responsible with our data. There is no such thing as privacy anymore, and there is no such thing as a guarantee of successfully backed up data. That which cannot be printed out in hard copy/paper, cannot achieve a 100% guarantee of being safe, period.... full stop. But we can still take measures to minimize how much damage can be done to our files.


Anyway. I think these global-wide attacks are far more than some Black Hat sitting in his room somewhere deciding he's going to go after some specific bank or service. That's not a big enough fish to fry for creating something to attack world-wide. World-wide global attacks smack of much bigger beginnings to me.


But then that's just me, and I'm supposedly a tin-foil hat wearing paranoid libbie. ;)

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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2017, 04:57:19 PM »
When I first started with them I had problems but after working with them and becoming a beta tester I had very few problems.   Use to be a son of a gun getting the updates...but that's fixed now also.  A lot of times folks don't take the time to remove ALL PARTS of the previous Virus program they had on their computer and that causes "Open Doors" even with the best Virus protection.  As I said...Not crazy over their new LIVE....It seemed to work great in Beta Testing but I'm thinking they disregarded some of the suggestions made.  So I'm hunting.

If anyone has suggestions or views on what programs they like best...throw them at me....All will be welcomed.

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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2017, 05:06:05 PM »

not too sure I think its start of bigger things
but I know its not a black hat sat in his room (hes watching porn lol )


to me its more like kids in playground
I can jump so high
WELL I CAN JUMP HIGHER
yeah rite prove it


and they do
is only us poor users that get hurt


guess sometimes what u think is from what u know
like when I was at uni we had our comp room then the biz kiddies had theres
now there was no rules they can use our rooms an we can use theres
we have A2 plotters they had dot matrix crap........we needed matlab they had word !!!
stood in a Q waiting for a plotter to do a CV in gothic script when u had drawings to get in was a PAIN


is people that matter and if the peeps not care then we have probs

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Re: New Ransomeware is running loose!
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2017, 07:03:30 AM »

Nailed it. Very well said, PDG.


Additionally, these sorts of things are why we are also supposed to keep multiple backups of our own data. I know I do. I've had catastrophic HD failures before, only to find out that one of my backup HDs had also bricked itself... to the rescue was my second backup... LOL.


Nothing is backed up unless it's saved in three different places. ;) At least not nowadays anyhow.


As for viruses like this. Meh. Black Hats will do as they will do, White Hats will do as they will do to try and counter it. It's all over my head... I just keep everything as up to date as I can, run my firewalls and antivirus, and back things up in multiple different places and hope for the best, basically. I have my main HD, my internal HD, and then multiple "backup" HD's. All but the one internal are USB externals. I scan them periodically for scumware and viruses as well. I do everything I know to do to be responsible with it.


We can't avoid 100% everything there is, and there is always that slim chance that something will align in the cosmos somewhere and you lose ALL your HD's at the same time of course...


Scream and rant and rave and then either move on or give up at that point I suppose...


But at least if you have the extra backups, you've made a try at being responsible with your data. I won't touch Norton or Macafee if you PAID me to use their crapware... they're just as bad as a virus on their own. I've been with Avast for about 15 years now. Have only ever had one virus sneak through, and that was my own fault. LOL They've had a good track record for me, and the price is right as they say, too. ;)


All we can really do is try to be responsible with our data. There is no such thing as privacy anymore, and there is no such thing as a guarantee of successfully backed up data. That which cannot be printed out in hard copy/paper, cannot achieve a 100% guarantee of being safe, period.... full stop. But we can still take measures to minimize how much damage can be done to our files.


Anyway. I think these global-wide attacks are far more than some Black Hat sitting in his room somewhere deciding he's going to go after some specific bank or service. That's not a big enough fish to fry for creating something to attack world-wide. World-wide global attacks smack of much bigger beginnings to me.


But then that's just me, and I'm supposedly a tin-foil hat wearing paranoid libbie. ;)

I all but invented the tin foil hat after years of wearing a black one. As I said before; 0 days are out there and it's not just the script kiddies using them, as my man hedd might suggest. Many, many, years ago I stated that "Anything man can make; man can break. That is the challenge of reverse engineering." More than 60 people I know (knew) took enforced vacations back in the 90's because of that statement. I stand by it still. There are many entities that have taken this statement as their creed. They are not all single independent operators looking for some quick cash or bragging rights. 

 

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