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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2017, 07:46:57 PM »
Hi Sidherose!!! Yes, Puerto Rico is very proud of our Tainos heritage and African, also lots of Puerto Ricans always refer to Spain as our Mother land(that's what they teach you since you are little). Funny cause the word creole means the same as "criollo" (spanish). See, I was told(school)that creoles are European descended that settle in other country . And Criollo is of pure Spanish descent born in the Americas. That's also where we get our "cocina criolla"(creole kitchen) which is same as "creole cooking", ...I'm getting a headache, lol...



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Wow, the Motherland! Rolls eyes. That sounds so.....nationalistic. So neo-colonial. Never let them forget!

It was my understanding that creole meant 'native born' where the parent was from Europe and the offspring were born on this side of the pond.

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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2017, 08:07:50 PM »
hahahaha, I like your "eyes rolling"!!! But I agree with you, lol...Keep in mind, I've been living in the states for 27 years straight, so who knows what they teach now, lol.  And yes, what you said, that's exactly what I meant, about "creole" native born and so on...told you I was getting a headache  :(ROFLMAO:
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2017, 08:29:43 PM »
hahahaha, I like your "eyes rolling"!!! But I agree with you, lol...Keep in mind, I've been living in the states for 27 years straight, so who knows what they teach now, lol.  And yes, what you said, that's exactly what I meant, about "creole" native born and so on...told you I was getting a headache  :(ROFLMAO:

Okay...I wasn't quite sure if you were saying the same thing as I knew it. I'm tired myself. :tearlaugh:

Exactly, they may be teaching something else now, but I would tend to doubt it. It's such a brain-wash racket and neo-colonialism is still alive and well down in the islands and in Mexico, Guatemala, the Yucatan, etc. It's a shame. I would have moved up here too because having everything washed away into the sea or wherever it lands every few years doesn't sound like a good time at all! It's only paradise until those times. Would love to visit some time though!

Hey, at least you live in Boston where you can get some seafood and make some good gumbo! Jamaican jerk-chicken and pulled pork on Cuban bread with aioli - yum. 

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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2017, 08:54:28 PM »

Creole French is 'like' French but not exactly. There is a Creole translator on Bing Translator as well as French and German. If you're looking for a word preferably nouns - like 'today' you can find the word in there. Type it on the left as English and on the right pick French and it will tell you the word. Nouns and adjectives are different - both in German and French because it depends (as in English) on the tense and if it's I, you, he, she or it. But sometimes it's the same. Trying to learn them both at once is tricky because of that. It's enough to remember how to say "I like", "I liked", "I would like", "I did like", he liked, she liked, etc. and if a dog (Hund) is feminine (die = dee) or masculine (der) or neuter (das) in German and French (chien) both. La, le, les.......

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The french creole is different from french language because of two reasons.


The first reason is because it's a french language distorted by the african slaves. The vocabulary is mostly french but the grammar and the syntax are mostly african.


The second reason is because the french folk who moved to the american colonies didn't speak the same french than the king. Those who moved to the colonies came from Picardie, Normandie and Saintonge. In these areas, they spoke patois coming from the old dialects of the 'langue d'oïl', that were slightly different from the standard french talked in Paris.


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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2017, 09:05:47 PM »
The french creole is different from french language because of two reasons.


The first reason is because it's a french language distorted by the african slaves. The vocabulary is mostly french but the grammar and the syntax are mostly african.


The second reason is because the french folk who moved to the american colonies didn't speak the same french than the king. Those who moved to the colonies came from Picardie, Normandie and Saintonge. In these areas, they spoke patois coming from the old dialects of the 'langue d'oïl', that were slightly different from the standard french talked in Paris.

Ahh, so it was somewhat influenced by the southern tongue. I can see that from what little Catalonian I've seen. That IS Catalonian, right?

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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2017, 09:24:22 PM »
Hi Sidherose!!! Yes, Puerto Rico is very proud of our Tainos heritage and African, also lots of Puerto Ricans always refer to Spain as our Mother land(that's what they teach you since you are little). Funny cause the word creole means the same as "criollo" (spanish). See, I was told(school)that creoles are European descended that settle in other country . And Criollo is of pure Spanish descent born in the Americas. That's also where we get our "cocina criolla"(creole kitchen) which is same as "creole cooking", ...I'm getting a headache, lol...
In fact, 'creole' is coming from the spanish world 'criollo', that came itself from the latin word 'criare'.
'Criare' means a 'servant who is born at the house'.
That's why the word creole pointed out someone who was born in the colony where his parents lived.
After that, the concept of Creoles could have a restirictive or large significance, depending on how the populations lived in the colony.
In the colonies where the mix of populations went wrong, it was the restricitve sense that was applied. A Creole was an European who was borned in the colony from european parents.
In the colonies where the mix of populations went better, the large sense was applied. A Creole was someone who was born in the colony. It could be an European or an african slave.




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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2017, 09:40:28 PM »
So, it has a 'small' and 'large' sense to the word.

Not all slaves were black Africans. hon. They made slaves out of the Taino Indians as well. Also I seem to remember that there was a colony or two of black African slaves who had been sold in South America. They escaped and went north and ended up on the islands. Some moved further north still, into southern U.S. - if I'm remembering correctly.

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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2017, 09:54:50 PM »
Ahh, so it was somewhat influenced by the southern tongue. I can see that from what little Catalonian I've seen. That IS Catalonian, right?
Not exactly.
The old 'langue d'oïl' was a set of dialects talked in the northern area of France and Picardie, Normandie and Saintonge are areas from the nothern area.
The tongue talked in southern area was the 'langue d'oc', that is different from the 'langue d'oïl' and the catalonian is a dialect of 'langue d'oc'.


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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2017, 10:05:46 PM »
So, it has a 'small' and 'large' sense to the word.

Not all slaves were black Africans. hon. They made slaves out of the Taino Indians as well. Also I seem to remember that there was a colony or two of black African slaves who had been sold in South America. They escaped and went north and ended up on the islands. Some moved further north still, into southern U.S. - if I'm remembering correctly.
That's true, the first slaves were Native Americans, until they were converted to christian religion and then, it was forbidden to use them as slaves. To solve the problem, they were replaced by african slaves.
As for the Creoles, it's the large sense that is the most applied today.


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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2017, 01:14:23 AM »
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