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Offline rrkknight3

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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2017, 04:29:39 PM »
Are you booting the system that Chiron provided?

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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2017, 04:38:12 PM »
You don't need to tamper with the boot order: there should be a function key to make the BIOS (or UEFI) offer you a list of the available drives (USB and CD drives included) from where you can chose where to boot from. On my PC it's F11.

The protected mode is something that implies the use of your not really healthy Win8.1 mounted on a dubious hard disk, thus it would be safer to leave it alone.
If you manage to boot from USB you'll find yourself in another system, certainly less familiar to you but safe, from where you can see whatever is still accessible on your hard disk, chose what you want to save and copy it where you want it (but not - repeat NOT - on the unsafe hard disk!).
Working with an external system will assure that no further loss of data will occur due to a system failure, which at the moment looks to me the greatest risk.
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2017, 05:02:36 PM »
I think on HP systems, one presses ESC repeatedly during the system power up, then F9 to get the boot option menus.

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-15-r100-notebook-pc-series/7234951/model/7649550/document/c03801890

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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2017, 11:22:52 AM »
I checked, alas none of these options were useful for the situation.

I turned on web, between french sites and howtogeek (thanks to each people talking to this one to me). And a solution finally was presented partially with "Ubuntu" name - in relation with Linux. I turned many yesterday on that one. Stubborn I know, but I wanted to put aside that definitively if it wasn't good.
I was again in struggle, because I had a lot of pages to follow for following the other pages :hypno:
I reinstalled 3 times folders on the bootable USB. Finally I hadn't offered enough 'place' to Ubuntu to deal with its system, 'open' Windows areas, and open an USB (yes, I didn't want to expose the external directly).

I hadn't idea how many Gigas of files I had to take, but it's a lot :panic:
After, I don't know their real statut. I'll see that when I'll open files finally.

I think I have maybe lost some things, like photos (they were in the Public area). But it's a little issue compare to all is maybe saved.
I have to check also if I can find preferences for Firefox - in case I want to continue to give news of the Aelin Weather Channel for example :iminnocent:

 :ty04: again!
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2017, 11:40:07 AM »
Rectification: usually I could go on Public area by several paths. In Ubuntu, it's transformed in a labyrinth, were finally I found my way  :grimdance: Photos are ok too.

Looks like everything can be there.
Just the stupid W8.1 which had an issue.
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2017, 11:42:37 AM »
Ubuntu is quite OK, Aelin, it just requires a bit of patience to get started.
And it was a good idea to save your data on a different USB - should anything go wrong you wouldn't have to start all over again.

Are you recovering your files one by one or collectively (by extension, by folder or whatever)?

We are all keeping our fingers crossed for you :smile: Congratulations on your stubbornness! :thumb_up:
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2017, 12:05:14 PM »

well done


ps if Chiron hadn't suggested win PE I woulda been saying use Linux


hope you get it all running again as soon as you can

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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2017, 01:09:42 PM »
That is wonderful news Aelin......Wooohoooo. 
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2017, 01:39:41 PM »
Ubuntu is quite OK, Aelin, it just requires a bit of patience to get started.
And it was a good idea to save your data on a different USB - should anything go wrong you wouldn't have to start all over again.

Are you recovering your files one by one or collectively (by extension, by folder or whatever)?

We are all keeping our fingers crossed for you :smile: Congratulations on your stubbornness! :thumb_up:
Thanks!
Tonight or tomorrow, I'll try to redo my path to use Ubuntu, to explain the few I understood. It will be in another topic.

Concerning files, I saw 3 photos outside of folders in the PUblic area - like I left them. I saw the 3 thumbnails correctly. For those it's ok, and I took them like that.
I took by files all I could in other areas.
But mainly, I took by folders (sometimes by folders in folders, to divide the work in several times for laptop and flash drives).

Question now: I know hard drive isn't pretty good. But do you think I can try a 'reinstallation' of the laptop as when leaving the factory, then just reinstall Daz and Poser? I doubt just "to do a fix" is enough.
I know I can't take the risk to save things onto now, but maybe I can with flash drives.
That could allow for a moment to don't use my W10 comp to do 3D. Just to go on the web, or make postwork.
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2017, 02:09:07 PM »
Pictures and some written documents I kept for FRM are always complete. They come from a folder contening folders (and it was one of 2 first I took earlier).  :knightcheer2:
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2017, 02:29:23 PM »
Question now: I know hard drive isn't pretty good. But do you think I can try a 'reinstallation' of the laptop as when leaving the factory, then just reinstall Daz and Poser? I doubt just "to do a fix" is enough.
I know I can't take the risk to save things onto now, but maybe I can with flash drives.
That could allow for a moment to don't use my W10 comp to do 3D. Just to go on the web, or make postwork.

Hmmm, better wait until the last of your files is safely copied onto an USB or an external disk - first things first, right?

Then to carry on a reinstallation you will need two things: a healthy hard drive and a source for the system that you want to reinstall, be it an installation DVD or an image borrowed from the identical (hardwarewise) laptop you told me about.

- Healthy hard disk: it is possible (though not very likely) that the catastrophe happened for other causes than a hard disk failure (maybe a software problem that erased a few key-sectors, who knows?). Thus before reinstalling on the same disk you should first run a thorough hard disk test - there are several free programs to do that. If the disk passes the test OK, else you'll need a new one (1 TB -> ~€60) and some screwdriver work (not really much *).

- System source: a 'system recovery' would require anyway a Win8.1 installation DVD. If (or when :winks:) you have one, you must decide if you want to try a system recovery or to go for a clean installation from scratch, disk formatting included. Personally I would opt for the latter, but it's a matter of taste.

*) If you find a safe way to send me your laptop I'd be happy to volunteer the screwdriver work and maybe also the hard disk - I might have a spare one somewhere :smile:
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2017, 02:51:33 PM »
Sorry your laptop went bad Aelin  :ghost: . Glad you found a solution to recover files - and I'll cross my fingers it wasn't a hardware problem and you will be able to reinstall !!! :knightcheer2:

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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2017, 02:58:43 PM »
I agree...gather up all you can including program downloads and save them on the MemSticks or External. 

I keep a copy of programs that I download on One Drive also.  Makes for a good backup.   

Then start your tinkering.....
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2017, 03:18:53 PM »
I don't want to touch the hard disk for the moment, like I'm not 100% sure I took everything. I must think on that, don't worry.

I saved DS, Poser, PD Artists... not installed (and for a part installed in programs with add-ons or runtimes) on the external. And several USB.
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Re: Computer with W8.1 out
« Reply #74 on: October 23, 2017, 03:20:54 PM »
On another topic, this of W10 maybe.
I made change in Firefox to don't allow it to keep my passwords. THat's ok.

But weirdly when I enter my IDS, or comments on the gallery, computer remember what I wrote before :panic: An idea to stop that? I'm not able to find.
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